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Welmu and Empire part ways

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dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
March 02 2012 17:00 GMT
#1
Aleksandar Krstic @beastyqt
Welmu is no longer with Team Empire, I wish him good luck in future!

source: https://twitter.com/#!/Beastyqt
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
March 02 2012 17:00 GMT
#2
i guess empire will sign Axslav
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
March 02 2012 17:03 GMT
#3
Damn, that quite a disappointment, now Empire is even more toss-scarce. Hopefully Welmu continues to compete and can find a good team soon.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
March 02 2012 17:03 GMT
#4
Didn't even know welmu was on Empire... Good luck?
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
March 02 2012 17:03 GMT
#5
Noo I was looking forward to Welmu being on a major team

What happened?
Soma.bokforlag
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden448 Posts
March 02 2012 17:47 GMT
#6
i think empire is taking things more serious and having higher demands on their players than many other teams. i think thats a good thing, most players need someone that make demands, its hard to have all that dicepline coming from yourself
LeLfe
Profile Joined February 2011
France3160 Posts
March 02 2012 17:53 GMT
#7
Welmu was doing good, and Empire was already lacking Protoss players, don't really get this decision...
Writer for Red bull (Fr) and Iron Squid (En/Fr) @ClemLeLfe on twitter
KicKDoG
Profile Joined December 2003
Sweden765 Posts
March 02 2012 17:56 GMT
#8
aww gl welmu! ;-[ hope you will find a new home bro!
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JOJOsc2news
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
3000 Posts
March 02 2012 18:04 GMT
#9
Good luck to Welmu!

I don't think speculating about reasons why they parted is bringing us any closer to the truth.
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sVnteen
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2238 Posts
March 02 2012 18:04 GMT
#10
thats sad

i really liked him on the team and i think he is going to improve a lot this year...
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zeeQue
Profile Joined March 2010
United Kingdom184 Posts
March 02 2012 18:12 GMT
#11
This is a strange one, they need more Protosses and whilst Welmu wasn't posting amazing results he was still pretty strong, maybe they've got someone in the works already?

GL to him though
Kuni
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Austria765 Posts
March 02 2012 18:14 GMT
#12
On March 03 2012 02:00 dragonborn wrote:
i guess empire will sign Axslav


Just so they can disband 2 weeks after? nah ...
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Kaitokid
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany1327 Posts
March 02 2012 18:31 GMT
#13
On March 03 2012 02:00 dragonborn wrote:
i guess empire will sign Axslav


Theres no reason to release Welmu and then sign Axslav. Welmu is a stronger player and additionally hes younger, which is always a good thing.
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
March 02 2012 18:35 GMT
#14
On March 03 2012 03:31 Kaitokid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2012 02:00 dragonborn wrote:
i guess empire will sign Axslav


Theres no reason to release Welmu and then sign Axslav. Welmu is a stronger player and additionally hes younger, which is always a good thing.

well there are people who would contest that, plus Axslav is more professional for sure, but that s not the place to discuss such things is it... Hopefully empire picks up a good player
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
nooboon
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2602 Posts
March 02 2012 18:40 GMT
#15
On March 03 2012 02:00 dragonborn wrote:
i guess empire will sign Axslav


Or Sjow, but Empire already has three great terrans :/

Hardigan
Profile Joined June 2011
Switzerland1297 Posts
March 02 2012 18:42 GMT
#16
On March 03 2012 03:31 Kaitokid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2012 02:00 dragonborn wrote:
i guess empire will sign Axslav


Theres no reason to release Welmu and then sign Axslav. Welmu is a stronger player and additionally hes younger, which is always a good thing.

unless you want to keep the player for 5 or more years, experience is almost always better than a young age. I think you are think to much about sports, where after a certain age the player can't compete as good anymore.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
March 02 2012 18:48 GMT
#17
On March 03 2012 03:42 Hardigan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2012 03:31 Kaitokid wrote:
On March 03 2012 02:00 dragonborn wrote:
i guess empire will sign Axslav


Theres no reason to release Welmu and then sign Axslav. Welmu is a stronger player and additionally hes younger, which is always a good thing.

unless you want to keep the player for 5 or more years, experience is almost always better than a young age. I think you are think to much about sports, where after a certain age the player can't compete as good anymore.


I really think it's the other way around.
Younger is better than experience. Experience can be made, youth can't.
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turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
March 02 2012 18:51 GMT
#18
On March 03 2012 03:40 nooboon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2012 02:00 dragonborn wrote:
i guess empire will sign Axslav


Or Sjow, but Empire already has three great terrans :/



not that i believe that sjow will go to empire (although its possible) your race mix as a team is completely irrelevent. there absolutely no reason to have a mixture of all 3. in terms of team leagues you need players who can beat all 3 races, but that doesnt mean that those cant all be terran players.
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
March 02 2012 19:04 GMT
#19
On March 03 2012 03:48 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2012 03:42 Hardigan wrote:
On March 03 2012 03:31 Kaitokid wrote:
On March 03 2012 02:00 dragonborn wrote:
i guess empire will sign Axslav


Theres no reason to release Welmu and then sign Axslav. Welmu is a stronger player and additionally hes younger, which is always a good thing.

unless you want to keep the player for 5 or more years, experience is almost always better than a young age. I think you are think to much about sports, where after a certain age the player can't compete as good anymore.


I really think it's the other way around.
Younger is better than experience. Experience can be made, youth can't.


Depends, younger people learn solid patterns better, but they are less flexible and fall for uncommon strats pretty easily+ other age related issues. But they often have more free time, which ends up in more training, of course there are exceptions.

So both have good points and bad points.

Seraphone
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom1219 Posts
March 02 2012 19:12 GMT
#20
On March 03 2012 03:51 turdburgler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2012 03:40 nooboon wrote:
On March 03 2012 02:00 dragonborn wrote:
i guess empire will sign Axslav


Or Sjow, but Empire already has three great terrans :/



not that i believe that sjow will go to empire (although its possible) your race mix as a team is completely irrelevent. there absolutely no reason to have a mixture of all 3. in terms of team leagues you need players who can beat all 3 races, but that doesnt mean that those cant all be terran players.


Unless the opponent has a guy like say SlayersCoca and you're an all Protoss team.

Or if they have MMA and you have no Protoss players.

I think variety is important.

Much less important for foreign teams because they don't live together and practice together as much but you do still need it.
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arcane1129
Profile Joined January 2011
United States271 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-02 19:15:18
March 02 2012 19:12 GMT
#21
On March 03 2012 03:51 turdburgler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2012 03:40 nooboon wrote:
On March 03 2012 02:00 dragonborn wrote:
i guess empire will sign Axslav


Or Sjow, but Empire already has three great terrans :/



not that i believe that sjow will go to empire (although its possible) your race mix as a team is completely irrelevent. there absolutely no reason to have a mixture of all 3. in terms of team leagues you need players who can beat all 3 races, but that doesnt mean that those cant all be terran players.


It's important for practice partner purposes
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
March 02 2012 19:17 GMT
#22
Welmu's play did not impress me at all at assembly. All he did were blink allins.

Empire could really use a good P.
nath
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1788 Posts
March 02 2012 19:30 GMT
#23
Welmu isnt as bad as americans think he is, but hes not nearly as good as europeans seem to think (based on this thread). although if he is young and has potential, he would be worth keeping (like heromarine on mouz, or vileIllusion), i still feel like he is the odd man out in the empire lineup.

you hear empire. you think, yeah, foreign slayers. beastyqt,kas,happy terran trifecta. wacky but not terrible zerg aristeo. violet. welmu?
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Corsica
Profile Joined February 2011
Ukraine1854 Posts
March 02 2012 19:34 GMT
#24
i guess with best terran line up in Europe, and now gosu viOLet joining they want to have an all-star team...
affliction
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany198 Posts
March 02 2012 19:46 GMT
#25
I also think that they strive to have a better overall lineup especially considering the recent addition of violet. Maybe next player will also be a Korean or a very high profile EU player. i don't think that they would add any US player because they are not strong enough.
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
March 02 2012 19:48 GMT
#26
On March 03 2012 02:53 LeLfe wrote:
Welmu was doing good, and Empire was already lacking Protoss players, don't really get this decision...


I don't think Welmu was doing much or showing any results in tournaments and such, however when I saw him in team leagues he was always doing good. I agree with you since they already lack protoss players I don't understand this decision either.
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
decerto
Profile Joined November 2011
244 Posts
March 02 2012 19:50 GMT
#27
Imagine empire still had naniwa and nerchio, what a team that would be, gl welmu and empire
Jtom
Profile Joined January 2011
Ireland1044 Posts
March 02 2012 19:53 GMT
#28
T_T Welmu
"Daddy, how did the Protossaurs go extinct?" "A giant EMP hit the earth" - Fionn
Thylacine
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden882 Posts
March 02 2012 20:03 GMT
#29
At the start of 2012, everryone has been leaving their teams...
What you're looking at could be the end of a particularly terrifying nightmare. It isn't. It's the beginning. Introducing Mr. John Valentine, air traveler. His destination: the Twilight Zone...
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
March 02 2012 20:04 GMT
#30
On March 03 2012 05:03 Zanazuah wrote:
At the start of 2012, everryone has been leaving their teams...


That is when contracts end, it shouldn't be to surprising
When I think of something else, something will go here
Eee
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden2712 Posts
March 02 2012 20:12 GMT
#31
I liked Welmu, always seemed to be a pretty nice guy.
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
March 02 2012 20:12 GMT
#32
why the hell would they let go of welmu? they had such a great protoss in Welmu, and he was young. I'm genuinely sad that he actually has been let go of. Seriously he ssemed like he actually going to be their successful protoss to accompany their successful zerg.
User was warned for too many mimes.
Firesilver
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom1190 Posts
March 02 2012 20:29 GMT
#33
Unfortunate to see him go but good luck in the future Welmu!
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Quakie
Profile Joined October 2008
Norway725 Posts
March 02 2012 20:39 GMT
#34
Fun fact: He was the only one from Empire that passed group stage at Assembly. Happy and Kas did not.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
March 02 2012 20:46 GMT
#35
It was such a great pick up though
Probably one of the most talented players out there :/

Good luck!
PredY
Profile Joined September 2009
Czech Republic1731 Posts
March 02 2012 21:02 GMT
#36
gl welmu son
http://www.twitch.tv/czelpredy
Keeper
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany62 Posts
March 03 2012 17:27 GMT
#37
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=317447 for the official announcement
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-03 19:56:21
March 03 2012 19:56 GMT
#38
Please use the official announcement thread for any further discussion
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