EPTOn the other hand, it is true that some English commentators don't do hardcore analysis because the are incapable of doing it. I don't want to name names, but some casters are not good players themselves (and by that I mean not even masters level in NA and EU).
Why are English casts so "newb" in comparison? - Page 2
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Vague
170 Posts
On the other hand, it is true that some English commentators don't do hardcore analysis because the are incapable of doing it. I don't want to name names, but some casters are not good players themselves (and by that I mean not even masters level in NA and EU). | ||
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willoc
Canada1530 Posts
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Eknoid4
United States902 Posts
On January 26 2012 10:08 piplup wrote: It's because everyone's trying to copy/one up tastosis And tastosis doesn't have hardly any player/game insight that they offer (regardless of what they KNOW, they are too busy telling us that you don't wanna fight 1 stalker with 2 unstimmable marines) | ||
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Hoodlum
United States350 Posts
Also I don't know any known caster who is trying to be tastosis... So many different casters out there have their completely different styles and flair that they bring to the game. There is a reason why you see these casters that ALL used to be nobody, they worked hard, got noticed, and earned their job. | ||
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Eknoid4
United States902 Posts
On January 26 2012 10:20 ggrrg wrote: You can't generalize "English casts". There are so many people casting in English and the differences between them are huge. I'd agree that a wide range of casters seem boring/superficial/lack knowledge etc. However, Day[9] is top notch and I'm certain that his casting skills at least match those of other Chinese/Korean pro casters. Pretty much the same goes for Artosis. Not to mention that there are a bunch of English casters, who might not be overly analytical but still provide an extremely pleasant viewing experience. btw German casters are terrible... Khaldor used to be very enjoyable in German, but nowadays he pretty much casts only in English. so, in GSL, which is what this thread is about, there's tasteless, artosis, maybe doa/moletrap.... aaaand...? | ||
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
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RinconH
United States512 Posts
Great: Artosis Good: Tasteless Wolf Apollo German Dude w face piercing (always forget his name) Mr. Bitter Day-9 Okay: Khalador DJWheat | ||
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Eknoid4
United States902 Posts
On January 26 2012 10:31 RinconH wrote: Breakdown of notable English-streaming Casters: Great: Artosis Good: Tasteless Wolf Apollo German Dude w face piercing (always forget his name) Mr. Bitter Day-9 Okay: Khalador DJWheat How many of those cast GSL? How many of those are as knowledgable as any single korean GSL caster was 5 years ago, let alone now? | ||
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DaCruise
Denmark2457 Posts
OP pulls random numbers out of nowhere and I really lack more options in the poll. Do we want more analytical casts? Maybe, but on what cost? You simply cant have it all. No one wants a 100% analytical cast. I seriously doubt there are much better commentators out there than those casting in english. | ||
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RinconH
United States512 Posts
On January 26 2012 10:32 Eknoid4 wrote: How many of those cast GSL? How many of those are as knowledgable as any single korean GSL caster was 5 years ago, let alone now? Only Artosis. | ||
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Eknoid4
United States902 Posts
Every single Korean caster is a thousand times better, more informed about the players, and more konwledgable than Artosis. Not to mention they STAY ON TOPIC. Implying Artosis is as good as the best of the Koreans is like saying Idra is as good as Jaedong. | ||
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Rucho
United States124 Posts
Just because they yell louder and more excitedly, it's not to say they are more passionate. It honestly seems a big forced when they go GEEEE GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE all at the same time. It's kind of like latino football casters shouting GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAL I think it's mostly a tradition of sorts. Anyhow, I cannot comment of the quality of the informativeness of the korean commentators' casting. What I hear when i listen to BW casting is one of the commentators talking at length in the early game, while the other commentator responds "ne" again and again. Who knows, maybe some serious high level discussion is at hand. I don't know. What I do know however, is that there is definitely room for improvement from ALL English casters, even Tastosis. I love their jokes, it's a big reason for why I watch GomTv. However it's also bothersome when they don't seem to be paying attention and miss details or the build order entirely. To get a glimpse of how could their casting can be, try watching them cast a PVP or another P matchup. Artosis sometimes doles out some knowledge of cutting edge PVP, and it's great to hear, even though I'm not a Protoss | ||
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Exempt.
United States470 Posts
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Horseballs
United States721 Posts
On January 26 2012 10:21 willoc wrote: Question: Are the Chinese and Russian casts live like the English ones? The few times I've watched Russian streams it was a craftcup or some other online cup. I was pleasantly surprised by the quality of the commentating, even if my Russian isn't all that great. | ||
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thebigdonkey
United States354 Posts
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shizna
United Kingdom803 Posts
it's become suprisingly evident that to keep my focus on a stream, an entertaining commentary is equally important to the quality of games. not necessarily analytical or faff, just entertaining with a spot of improvisation. there's nothing less entertaining than a caster that has a vocabulary consisting of 3 words plus the SC2 terminology handbook, who sweats awkwardly when asked to 'fill' a 30 second pause... FFS wing it... do something funny... don't just go "lets look at the liquipedia page to see the brackets... oh look he's done very well he's top of his group!"... that's not my idea of entertainment. incontrol, apollo, totalbiscuit, day9 and tastosis are pure entertainment... | ||
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hmunkey
United Kingdom1973 Posts
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Voltaire
United States1485 Posts
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rebuffering
Canada2436 Posts
I just hope the level of commentary will rise with guys like Adebisi leading the charge IMO. | ||
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Leeto
United States1320 Posts
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