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Yggdrazil
Profile Joined November 2010
France92 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-22 00:17:15
January 22 2012 00:06 GMT
#481
Speaking of stereotypes...

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taLbuk
Profile Joined April 2010
Madagascar1879 Posts
January 22 2012 00:07 GMT
#482
99% of americans have no problem with the french, yes there are some stereotypes but every country has those, just because the media can encapsulate persons of interest doing it doesn't mean thats how we all think, especially among an unpopular candidate.

mikkmagro
Profile Joined April 2011
Malta1513 Posts
January 22 2012 00:08 GMT
#483
no SC2 enthusiast should ever have a bad impression of the French. Think of MoMaN! <3
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Devolved
Profile Joined April 2008
United States2753 Posts
January 22 2012 00:08 GMT
#484
On January 22 2012 08:52 SilentchiLL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2012 08:35 Xiron wrote:
This thread is a joke. French bashing? Try to be a fucking german like me. On the internet, the first response to 'Im german' is almost exclusively something WW2 or nazi related. People in other countries seem to have the opinion that germany is still ruled by nazis and being german is just another term for being a nazi. Stereotypical bashing is nothing special, especially french bashing since the french may be seen as arrogant or whatever, but that's about it.


Original question from an american after I said that I'm german:
Is Hitler still the king of Germany?
Why yes, yes he is...

Hitler may not be king of Germany, but your grandparents were Nazis.

User was temp banned for this post.
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henkel
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands146 Posts
January 22 2012 00:14 GMT
#485
On January 22 2012 09:08 Devolved wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2012 08:52 SilentchiLL wrote:
On January 22 2012 08:35 Xiron wrote:
This thread is a joke. French bashing? Try to be a fucking german like me. On the internet, the first response to 'Im german' is almost exclusively something WW2 or nazi related. People in other countries seem to have the opinion that germany is still ruled by nazis and being german is just another term for being a nazi. Stereotypical bashing is nothing special, especially french bashing since the french may be seen as arrogant or whatever, but that's about it.


Original question from an american after I said that I'm german:
Is Hitler still the king of Germany?
Why yes, yes he is...

Hitler may not be king of Germany, but your grandparents were Nazis.


your grandparents were slave owners and mine sold them...........
you really that dumb? believe this thread is about France.

on topic, dumb people say dumb shit, don't think it is as wide spread as you belief it to be. or i should say i hope.
SilentchiLL
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany1405 Posts
January 22 2012 00:15 GMT
#486
On January 22 2012 09:08 Devolved wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2012 08:52 SilentchiLL wrote:
On January 22 2012 08:35 Xiron wrote:
This thread is a joke. French bashing? Try to be a fucking german like me. On the internet, the first response to 'Im german' is almost exclusively something WW2 or nazi related. People in other countries seem to have the opinion that germany is still ruled by nazis and being german is just another term for being a nazi. Stereotypical bashing is nothing special, especially french bashing since the french may be seen as arrogant or whatever, but that's about it.


Original question from an american after I said that I'm german:
Is Hitler still the king of Germany?
Why yes, yes he is...

Hitler may not be king of Germany, but your grandparents were Nazis.

I actually laughed when I read this retort, maybe because it was so foreseeable ^^
And my grandparents who live today both grew up after the war
possum, sed nolo - Real men play random. ___ "Who the fuck is Kyle?!" C*****EX
KaiserJohan
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden1808 Posts
January 22 2012 00:18 GMT
#487
We make fun of french, but it is mostly because the accent or make crude jokes about loosing or just sucking in pretty much every conflict since 1870.But it's a stupid joke I know, we jsut do it.. cuz it's fun >_> like we make jokes on pretty much everyone else too (especially americans!) but it's definately not serious and I doubt anyone is seriously bashing france, just making some casual jokes
England will fight to the last American
C23
Profile Joined January 2012
5 Posts
January 22 2012 00:21 GMT
#488
Actually i'm living in Paris but i don't consider myself as Parisian because it's not my hometown, i'm just studying there(i'm from Reims)Everyday i go to my university meeting Parisians and other french people, i don't see no difference,i couldn't say even if we talk and so on, he would have to say me he spent all his life in paris to convince me he's a Parisian. If there is more substanciale things that foreingners known that could help me to make the difference i'd like to hear it. However it just looks like "Parisian" has been mostly used to say "french asshole".
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-22 00:23:06
January 22 2012 00:21 GMT
#489
Just from a personal perspective from an American, there are some major stereotypes for Frenchies, are
1) they smell bad, that's why they made cologne and perfume to cover the lack of showering.
2) they're arrogant, and overly nationalistic. (ie, every time stephano is mentioned there are 30-40 new accounts created on tl from france just to defend stephano).
3) they're giant metrosexual culture.
4) funny accent, which gets all the girls.
5) they made a cannon wall in, except left a giant hole in it (belgium).
^this is just a list of observation, not saying these are true.
liftlift > tsm
SilentchiLL
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany1405 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-22 00:23:17
January 22 2012 00:21 GMT
#490
I just noticed that I haven't read anything in this thread about the sexuality of french men, I know it can't be pretty nice for homosexuals when you use their preferences to redicule a whole country, but I'm sure that the Germans aren't the only ones who have the stereotype of the gay french man.

EDIT:Well, just when I write that somebody posts a comment above me about the metrosexuality of them, it might not be the same but I guess it's kind of similiar
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Troxle
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States486 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-22 00:27:22
January 22 2012 00:22 GMT
#491
On January 22 2012 09:06 Yggdrazil wrote:
Speaking of stereotypes...

[image loading]


I laughed! Been waiting for someone to post somethin' like this xD

@SilentchiLL that's honestly the most common stereotype for people to choose when poking fun at the French (at least here in Virginia it is). Always get a good laugh when someone gets offended because they take it too seriously (though there are loads of rednecks here who believe this as fact...wish Darwin's Theory was a faster process)
If you're homophobic, you're probably ugly, so don't worry about a gay guy coming onto you. - jarrydesque
mrRoflpwn
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2618 Posts
January 22 2012 00:23 GMT
#492
Cuz the french ( according to my history teacher) are nothing but sissy's who get destroyed in just about every war but end up on the winning side for some reason.
Long live the Boss Toss!
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 22 2012 00:25 GMT
#493
On January 22 2012 09:23 mrRoflpwn wrote:
Cuz the french ( according to my history teacher) are nothing but sissy's who get destroyed in just about every war but end up on the winning side for some reason.

sounds like tim tebow.
liftlift > tsm
Yggdrazil
Profile Joined November 2010
France92 Posts
January 22 2012 00:25 GMT
#494
Let's sum up this way :

French : "Si ceux qui disent du mal de moi savaient ce que je pense d'eux, ils en diraient bien davantage."

(Bad) translation : "If those who speak ill about me knew what i think about them, they would speak much more ill..."

As a french myself, i don't care about those stereotypes. As soon as i don't have to suffer them, i don't mind. You can't blame people for having opinions on things they don't even know, it's natural and country stereotypes are something that has always been and will go on for long !
YpnotiS
Profile Joined March 2011
France163 Posts
January 22 2012 00:32 GMT
#495
Sorry if someone alrdy wrote what i will do, but i didn't read the entire topics.

Well, first, I'm french, student, 24, live in France, and i would say there are lots of dumbs in this country, as all countries have. There are a lot of problems but i also like my country because there are also beautiful things which strangers maybe can't understand. We generally are proud of our culture, our langage, etc.. ofc, they always are mistakes/failures, but who did not ?
I personnally don't like the way where americans "impose" their culture to the world (in behalf of God sometimes). Maybe it's not the case, but it's how we usually see USA. And i would say, we are a country of protester(? not sure if it's the good word), so, we can't accept it ! Maybe because of our celtic/german/goth genes ahah
I'm always aware to learn about different cultures, even i don't like them sometimes, but i don't want to be forced to earn something.

Bashing for funny things is nothing, it reveals where we come from, sometimes funny "cliché"(french are all guys with beret, baguett and red wine under the arm, it can see that sometimes TRUE STORY! I saw it myself !). Now we don't fight anymore in wars, so friendly bashing is another way to continue those little quarrels.
Bashing hatefully, I personnally don't care. I just think, that kind of people are just retard, arrogant, ignorant... ; just ignore those people and it's ok. (It's valid for all sides).
Unfortunatly, for what I know and understand, americans like when their politics say they are the best country, the best people, the best... In France, we don't really care about that, we just want to have a better life, have the best things for us, have politics who give us solutions, no matter who is the best in the world. It's a bit harsh to say that but we don't live for our country like americans would say, but we live with our culture which is important in many ways (dunno how to say it properly in english).


Also, i want to add. Americans always talk about the WWII and our coward retreat. Yeah, we are grateful they helped (i am saying "helped", without Resistance, maybe D-Day would never have happened, who knows) us to liberate our country (and even, if we remember well, they did not take part in this conflict before Pearl Harbor, even when usa's friend UK was under huge fire). I'd like to think americans would have done the same if they had no solution to fight (probably what Pétain's thoughts at this moment).
Also, if my memory is good enough, i learnt in history general Lafayette (i think he's the good one), french guy, fought alongside americans to beat some UK battleships (not battlecruisers i think^^). Maybe they should remember that fact sometimes.

And sorry for the poor English i wrote, but educational system did not provide a real good teaching of other langages when i was younger (even i don't like learn new langages). I think they are now more aware of this fact and they are trying to catch up the time they lost, when our world is going to be more global everyday. We are far behind compared to some other European countries.
But as you can see, some of us are trying to be understandable from you, english speakers, and i do my best to improve my english, even if I still don't like the langage. I think i have learn more english on the internet, reading blogs, news, etc.. than school. Well, i just hope you'll understand me.

Wow, a long post for a guy who doesn't like english :D
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
January 22 2012 00:35 GMT
#496
On January 22 2012 09:23 mrRoflpwn wrote:
Cuz the french ( according to my history teacher) are nothing but sissy's who get destroyed in just about every war but end up on the winning side for some reason.


Your history teacher is an idiot.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
deathly rat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom911 Posts
January 22 2012 00:48 GMT
#497
The OP was specifically asking about political bashing of French by the USA, and I think it is at least a little bit interesting. This is my opinion.

Everything in American politics is spun and each side always exaggerate the other's opinions and make up facts about one another so that the general public find it extremely difficult to know anything concrete or come to sensible conclusions. There is no independent news agency or any media that is free of political spin, and it used as a tool to manipulate the opinions of ordinary people. I'm not a conspiracy nut, but I do think that there are not rules or conventions that stop the 2 main political parties interferring with the news and media.

This is important because it is in this environment that the french have become stereotyped as everything the US political system HATES. In France they are proudly socialist, and this means that trade unions represent portions of the workforce in the poltical world. France has a high tax rate, but this is balanced by the high degree of social welfare provided by the state. Most people in the US would place the Democrats on the left and the Republicans on the right, but compared to Europe they are both FAR right wing.

The USA has never understood socialism because it never had a Monarchy or a class system, and as such never had a people's rebellion in which the rights of ordinary working people were the central issue. The US system was created by rich people who were therefore powerful. This system has never been challenged so it is that the whole of politics is determined by rich people to this day. It is also for this reason why business and personal wealth accumulation can sit so hand in hand in the USA, whilst in other countries being a political representative is seen as "serving" (so it is not correct to personally gain financially from your position whilst you are in office at least).

Anyway, the point is that the media have linked french with "socialism", and this word has been spun and misrepresented so much by the politically controlled media, that it immediately engeneders panic in 90% of US citizens, without any real understanding of why.
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Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
January 22 2012 00:49 GMT
#498
This is pretty much a perfect example of all French stereotypes.
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sheaRZerg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States613 Posts
January 22 2012 00:51 GMT
#499
Conservative politicians like to bash Europe in general...something about them being too socialist or something. France seems to be the butt of the most jokes for some reason....I think its largely because it is a large country with a fairly different culture (the UK for instance is a bit too close to home). Their stereotypes of being snobbish about arts, fine foods etc... seems to make them (in some peoples eyes) the antithesis of the "hard working", lower-middle class american voters who politicians are trying to attract.

I cringe when I hear politicians do it...but I have to admit I get a chuckle out of French stereotyping now and again. Any nationality with such a distinct language and culture is going to have some jokes poked at it. (I really do hope I get to visit France some day)
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1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
January 22 2012 00:52 GMT
#500
On January 22 2012 09:06 Yggdrazil wrote:
Speaking of stereotypes...

[image loading]




Oh come on now!



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