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Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
January 21 2012 22:09 GMT
#421
This thread is about to get golden.

I could enlighten you and link you some pointers both in french and in english about the way the world see France but it's much more funnier to see a good iteration of mindless debates by people who have little arguments to sustain their sayings ...
Djeez
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
543 Posts
January 21 2012 22:12 GMT
#422
On January 22 2012 06:13 Kojak21 wrote:
i dont mind people from france at all, but im from canada, and those damn frenchies from quebec....


We hate you too, Kojak21
-Sincerely, the French Canadians.
''Watching steppes of war in the gsl would be like watching the dreamhack 1.6 finals start out on fy_iceworld. '' -red_b
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
January 21 2012 22:13 GMT
#423
On January 22 2012 07:01 dUTtrOACh wrote:
I thought ripping on France was as old as the English. Anywhere the English have been, they have created resentment for France. Look at Americans' lack of love for France, even though they helped them a little against the British. Look at how many Anglophone Ontarians shit-talk Quebecois while they worship Georges St-Pierre. Just a solid old rivalry, IMO. No harm intended, I'm sure.

It would take a quick US history course to show how little we have in common with France. In under 50 years after the revolution, the US decided that they were better off improving relations with Britain than with France, given that they honestly had to choose.
The United States was always closer to Britain. We hastily signed a treaty to end the Revolution before France could have its say. Basically, the US and France have never been especially close. Despite the revolution and the War of 1812, we still liked Britain more.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
Devolved
Profile Joined April 2008
United States2753 Posts
January 21 2012 22:15 GMT
#424
On January 22 2012 04:18 Sharkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2012 03:54 phosphore wrote:
BrodiaQ United States. January 22 2012 03:41. Posts 827 PM Profile Blog Quote #
The feeling I get from the French jokes/hate is mostly to do with the people and the history with the two World Wars. There is, in my opinion, a general feeling throughout American Society that we had to enter WW1 and WW2 because France couldn't take care of itself and we had to save them. A lot of Americans characterize French people as ungrateful because it seems like the French haven't done anything to repay us for our intervention.


Before saying something, you better check if it's right. the USA entered World War 1 only because its ships got sank by the german submarines and World War 2 because of Pearl Harbor.


Half truths

US entered WW1 because of 2 reasons (not one as stated above):
1) Unrestricted Submarine warfare (not just the sinking of the RMS Lusitania)
2) Zimmerman Telegram

Because of Pearl Harbor US entered the Pacific War not the European Front. They only entered WW2 because of German's declaration of war against them on Dec. 11th.

Nitpicking? Yes, but truth is truth is truth.

As far as WWII, I think we would have eventually been involved in the European Front regardless of Pearl Harbor or German's declaration of war against us. First though, we had to build up the infrastructure to be able to support an overseas war against a German army that literally had the resources of all of Europe. This started by providing the English with all types of weaponry and war machines as we continued to build up our infrastructure. Because of the ramped up production to provide the English with weapons we had the factories in place to sustain war-time production. There were many scuffles and incidents between Germany and the U.S. because of this, and at this point it was inevitable we would become involved, it was just a matter of when.
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-Duderino-
Profile Joined July 2011
United States80 Posts
January 21 2012 22:16 GMT
#425
France bashing by Americans is for the most part pretty lighthearted. France is romanticized as much as it is bashed in American culture. I remember in my public middle school you could take a class in french, german, or spanish, and the class taught about the history and culture of the country as much as the language. So the U.S. government including republicans agree to pay for like maby a fifth of americans students to learn about France.
The Dude abides.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
January 21 2012 22:18 GMT
#426
On January 22 2012 07:09 Otolia wrote:
This thread is about to get golden.

I could enlighten you and link you some pointers both in french and in english about the way the world see France but it's much more funnier to see a good iteration of mindless debates by people who have little arguments to sustain their sayings ...


This thread is golden already.
Can't stop laughing at what i read in it. Specialy the whole " French are coward because they didn't follow Bush in Iraq. "
I know it's mostly a deep america feeling, and most people on this site know better, but i didn't know somes people still thought that.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Fatalize
Profile Joined January 2011
France5210 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-21 22:21:44
January 21 2012 22:20 GMT
#427
About the fact that French people are very hostile to tourists :

If you try to speak french, even if it's broken, they will be a lot less hostile, and will try to speak with you.
if you try to speak english with them, the vast majority of people wont even try to understand what you want to say.

Some people (read: Americans) see this as rudeness, but i wonder what their reaction would be if somebody was asking them something in French in their country.
Nacl(Draq)
Profile Joined February 2011
United States302 Posts
January 21 2012 22:21 GMT
#428
I worked in a french bakery for 7 months. The head chef being french thought it was the best thing to constantly make fun of americans and arabics. The best compliment I had ever received from him was him saying "He isn't American." To one of his french friends.
The whole bashing back and forth between each other is more so like two brothers picking on one another. It's just what countries do that have similar revolution times.
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4850 Posts
January 21 2012 22:26 GMT
#429
These threads always boil down to "not all people from country X say/think that about country Y". This point is made somewhere around page 2, everyone agrees, tries to explain why all the "stupid, uninformed people" think that about country Y, and then bring up other countries, with the same thing happening again.

I think before threads of this type can become really informative, there needs to be a greater variety of people here. What what I can tell, there is a large vocal majority, and a smaller, very silent minority. Or maybe there is just a large majority and VERY small minority.

On topic, here in the US, the basing is almost ALWAYS playful. Jokes involving any other person/country for surrender are amusing because of our history. When you consider that the beginning of this nation involved the exact opposite of surrender, it makes more sense. We still poke fun at and somewhat look down on figures who give up, or at least we did.(not to turn this into a debate about our once heavily held ideas).
"It is therefore only at the birth of a society that one can be completely logical in the laws. When you see a people enjoying this advantage, do not hasten to conclude that it is wise; think rather that it is young." -Alexis de Tocqueville
gds
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Iceland1391 Posts
January 21 2012 22:27 GMT
#430
On January 22 2012 07:20 Fatalize wrote:

Some people (read: Americans) see this as rudeness, but i wonder what their reaction would be if somebody was asking them something in French in their country.


They would probably pull out their gun and shoot you in the face then throw hamburger greasy papers at your dead body.
sebusca
Profile Joined November 2010
United States72 Posts
January 21 2012 22:29 GMT
#431
On January 21 2012 21:22 FantaFanta wrote:
the usa envy the french and thus make fun about them coz their arrogantce won't let them realize it.

User was warned for this post


we are super envious of a country who thinks they are the greatest people of all time but cant actually defend themselves without us doing it for them

User was warned for this post
sebusca
Profile Joined November 2010
United States72 Posts
January 21 2012 22:30 GMT
#432
On January 22 2012 07:27 gds wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2012 07:20 Fatalize wrote:

Some people (read: Americans) see this as rudeness, but i wonder what their reaction would be if somebody was asking them something in French in their country.


They would probably pull out their gun and shoot you in the face then throw hamburger greasy papers at your dead body.


Proving the point why you silly people are ignorant. Europeans in particular presume to know anything about American culture and just in reality are incredibly retarded. Congratulations.
sebusca
Profile Joined November 2010
United States72 Posts
January 21 2012 22:31 GMT
#433
On January 22 2012 07:20 Fatalize wrote:
About the fact that French people are very hostile to tourists :

If you try to speak french, even if it's broken, they will be a lot less hostile, and will try to speak with you.
if you try to speak english with them, the vast majority of people wont even try to understand what you want to say.

Some people (read: Americans) see this as rudeness, but i wonder what their reaction would be if somebody was asking them something in French in their country.


French people are hostile to everyone that isn't French. As evidenced by your post.
sebusca
Profile Joined November 2010
United States72 Posts
January 21 2012 22:32 GMT
#434
On January 22 2012 07:18 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2012 07:09 Otolia wrote:
This thread is about to get golden.

I could enlighten you and link you some pointers both in french and in english about the way the world see France but it's much more funnier to see a good iteration of mindless debates by people who have little arguments to sustain their sayings ...


This thread is golden already.
Can't stop laughing at what i read in it. Specialy the whole " French are coward because they didn't follow Bush in Iraq. "
I know it's mostly a deep america feeling, and most people on this site know better, but i didn't know somes people still thought that.


Ya, France was a coward long before that.
Fatalize
Profile Joined January 2011
France5210 Posts
January 21 2012 22:32 GMT
#435
On January 22 2012 07:31 sebusca wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2012 07:20 Fatalize wrote:
About the fact that French people are very hostile to tourists :

If you try to speak french, even if it's broken, they will be a lot less hostile, and will try to speak with you.
if you try to speak english with them, the vast majority of people wont even try to understand what you want to say.

Some people (read: Americans) see this as rudeness, but i wonder what their reaction would be if somebody was asking them something in French in their country.


French people are hostile to everyone that isn't French. As evidenced by your post.



They're hostile to everyone that doesnt even attempt to speak french in France.


Most americans dont understand this concept. Since 99% of them couldnt even make a basic sentence in any non-english language.
Leporello
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2845 Posts
January 21 2012 22:33 GMT
#436
On January 22 2012 07:32 Fatalize wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2012 07:31 sebusca wrote:
On January 22 2012 07:20 Fatalize wrote:
About the fact that French people are very hostile to tourists :

If you try to speak french, even if it's broken, they will be a lot less hostile, and will try to speak with you.
if you try to speak english with them, the vast majority of people wont even try to understand what you want to say.

Some people (read: Americans) see this as rudeness, but i wonder what their reaction would be if somebody was asking them something in French in their country.


French people are hostile to everyone that isn't French. As evidenced by your post.



They're hostile to everyone that doesnt even attempt to speak french in France.


Most americans dont understand this concept. Since 99% of them couldnt even make a basic sentence in any non-english language.

I've vacationed in France two times and luckily never met anyone as hostile as you appear to be in this post. Most people are quite polite and happy to have tourism.
Big water
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 21 2012 22:33 GMT
#437
These phrases probably came with them when they immegrated there from England like 400 years ago.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-21 22:38:46
January 21 2012 22:38 GMT
#438
On January 22 2012 07:20 Fatalize wrote:
About the fact that French people are very hostile to tourists :

If you try to speak french, even if it's broken, they will be a lot less hostile, and will try to speak with you.
if you try to speak english with them, the vast majority of people wont even try to understand what you want to say.

Some people (read: Americans) see this as rudeness, but i wonder what their reaction would be if somebody was asking them something in French in their country.


Nothing against france, but sorry this is ridicously rude. Everyone knows english, how the fuck is someone supposed to know french? When I see tourists I don't care what language they speak, I'm always nice to them and give them directions, even if I have to use hand signals.

Also it's not the same to ask for directions in french on usa than on english in france, though I understand your point. Difference is anyone from latin america and most likely asia will have english as the common language with french.
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-21 22:39:00
January 21 2012 22:38 GMT
#439
I thought this thread would be an interesting place to debate but is seems like we are on 4chan's /int/.
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
Devolved
Profile Joined April 2008
United States2753 Posts
January 21 2012 22:40 GMT
#440
On January 22 2012 07:32 Fatalize wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2012 07:31 sebusca wrote:
On January 22 2012 07:20 Fatalize wrote:
About the fact that French people are very hostile to tourists :

If you try to speak french, even if it's broken, they will be a lot less hostile, and will try to speak with you.
if you try to speak english with them, the vast majority of people wont even try to understand what you want to say.

Some people (read: Americans) see this as rudeness, but i wonder what their reaction would be if somebody was asking them something in French in their country.


French people are hostile to everyone that isn't French. As evidenced by your post.



They're hostile to everyone that doesnt even attempt to speak french in France.


Most americans dont understand this concept. Since 99% of them couldnt even make a basic sentence in any non-english language.

So if I'm going on vacation to Europe and plan to visit the Netherlands, Germany, Spain, France, and and Italy then I should learn five different languages before travelling? Funny how the French are the only ones that think we should learn their language before travelling to their country for a short vacation. That's what's called arrogance.
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