EPTOn a related note, voulez vous couchiez avec moi?
France Bashing - Page 21
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Caller
Poland8075 Posts
On a related note, voulez vous couchiez avec moi? | ||
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Pimpmuckl
Germany528 Posts
On January 22 2012 06:15 Caller wrote: The problem with France is how inept they were in foreign policy after Napoleon. On a related note, voulez vous couchiez avec moi? It is "couchez"! And you should maybe add "ce soir" since you usually don't want to wait too long. Now on a serious note: I am german, i went to france several times and everything went awesome. Why? because i could speak a little bit french. If you can only speak english you are completely dumped as really NO ONE speaks it with joy. I mean yes, maybe, some people CAN speak english but they won't do it. But the direct "racism" from the american politics buggers me quite hard. And why there is ALWAYS the euro vs us thing going on, not only here on TL but also in the HoN and DotA community... | ||
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fuzzy_panda
New Zealand1681 Posts
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NeonFox
2373 Posts
On January 22 2012 06:10 Millitron wrote: People were bashing France for "surrendering" way before the war in Iraq. They surrendered pretty swiftly to Nazi Germany (google Vichy France, they didn't just surrender, they outright aided the Nazis), they surrendered to the North Vietnamese in the 50's, and I'm sure I'm forgetting other instances too. I agree that all the France-bashing leading up to the war in Iraq was BS though. Google WW2 and read the full story. I don't care if people make jokes about surrendering since I don't give a crap about nationality and how you could be proud of living in a certain country is a mystery to me. But I don't like when people state facts backed only by their own ignorance. Edit : spelling | ||
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Maxquatre
France493 Posts
On January 22 2012 06:10 Millitron wrote: People were bashing France for "surrendering" way before the war in Iraq. They surrendered pretty swiftly to Nazi Germany (google Vichy France, they didn't just surrender, they outright aided the Nazis), they surrendered to the North Vietnamese in the 50's, and I'm sure I'm forgetting other instances too. I agree that all the France-bashing leading up to the war in Iraq was BS though. Like it's already been said in this topic, it's easy not to surrender to the nazis when you don't have a common border with them. Even the mighty USSR won thanks to their number and the fact, the weather was shitty as hell. If the US had to deal with what France had to deal when we got invaded, they would have done the same, surrender. Why ? Because the power was too great, because the country was unprepared for what was coming. To be honest, even the USSR would have been owned fighting the whole nazi army. As for Viet Nam, it's easy to tease us, what should have we done when we were outnumbered ? 1 guy against 4 isn't a way to win a war. Should i remember you that the US intervention turned to be a disaster as well ? | ||
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riddi
United Kingdom118 Posts
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AA.spoon
Belgium331 Posts
On January 22 2012 06:10 Millitron wrote: People were bashing France for "surrendering" way before the war in Iraq. They surrendered pretty swiftly to Nazi Germany (google Vichy France, they didn't just surrender, they outright aided the Nazis), they surrendered to the North Vietnamese in the 50's, and I'm sure I'm forgetting other instances too. I agree that all the France-bashing leading up to the war in Iraq was BS though. Look up USA vs Vietnam war. | ||
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hitthat
Poland2349 Posts
To the hell with US intervention. They stoped the chineese forces as well! | ||
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Navane
Netherlands2762 Posts
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Slaughter
United States20255 Posts
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jupidar
United States229 Posts
I've heard WAY more of my European friends bash France compared to my American friends. | ||
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Devolved
United States2753 Posts
On January 21 2012 21:48 Nightshake wrote: Im french and I live in France. And this country has a lot of dumb people. Education and political system suck hard, and a lot of people are just unsociable and always unhappy. Not to mention, the arrogance of French (well this is characteristic and not that bad as every country has people with a main default). But it's a beautiful country, and you can meet great people. And there is a reason why French culture is so well-known. The thing is that Americans think that French are cowards who didn't take part in the WWII. Well, we got attacked by a huge ass army with a crazy dictator. Pétain, the Maréchal at this time (the commander of the army), decided to cooperate with the nazis. And that's why people don't like French. I'd like to say that after WW2, Pétain got executed for cooperating with the nazis. Edit : found btw : http://aproposfrance-usa.blogspot.com/ I don't really think it stems from WWII, at least not from an American perspective. If it did, then wouldn't the bashing be against Germany or Italy instead of France? The French people had nothing to do with the mass killings and genocide that went on in Europe, whereas the German people openly supported it. You can see video from WWII where millions of people come out in support of Hitler during Nazi rallies or read texts from Germans during the era and how they supported the Nazi agenda and even killing Jews. If Americans were going to hate people for WWII it would be the Germans and not the French. I think it has more to do with the general attitude and arrogance of the French, mainly the people of Paris. I've been to Paris, and every single person I met treated me like trash and/or tried to steal from me, including the metro police. I dunno, maybe it's the same if you go to NYC and you're French. Contrary to the French, when I was in Germany everyone seemed amicable and welcoming. In Italy it was a mixture, but the people seemed genuine and not overly aggressive/arrogant like the French towards Americans. | ||
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isleyofthenorth
Austria894 Posts
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Diizzy
United States828 Posts
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Surrendering in WWII was honestly not a bad thing. They were abandoned by Britain and invaded by Germany and Italy. There was no chance of victory. The Free French did still fight on. | ||
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attwell
United States220 Posts
I dunno, its never been done successfully. that's the extent of the joking I'll do but it makes a point, people bag on the French for being wussies, I find people in Paris to be dicks sometimes but aside from that everyone was perfectly nice and most of it its just joking around. | ||
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brachester
Australia1786 Posts
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dUTtrOACh
Canada2339 Posts
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ManTrain
Denmark126 Posts
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France3578 Posts
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