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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
November 17 2014 22:02 GMT
#5881
idk I Don't think Kuro has much upside, this is EU not NA mid we're talking about
Carrilord has arrived.
orzeu
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland5205 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-17 22:18:35
November 17 2014 22:17 GMT
#5882
On November 18 2014 06:56 Fusilero wrote:
Wait hold on. There are teams that said no to getting both gorilla and kuro?
"I want gorilla but fk kuro mang, I'd rather keep playing with soren and watdefox" :D

Imagine SK line up: Fredy/Sven/Kuro/Forgiven/Gorilla.

On November 18 2014 07:02 Slusher wrote:
idk I Don't think Kuro has much upside, this is EU not NA mid we're talking about

He would be easily top 2 in EU.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21668 Posts
November 17 2014 22:53 GMT
#5883
On November 18 2014 06:56 Fusilero wrote:
Wait hold on. There are teams that said no to getting both gorilla and kuro?
"I want gorilla but fk kuro mang, I'd rather keep playing with soren and watdefox" :D

Do they speak good english?

Yes a chinese team did it but that doesnt mean anyone can. If they cant communicate it doesn't matter that their good.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-17 23:00:14
November 17 2014 22:59 GMT
#5884
Can we finally get rid of the "EU mids so good NA adcs so good" stereotype? Top4 EU mids are arguably Froggen/Selfie/xPeke/Nukeduck (I would put WDF above nukeduck but whatever). If you were to replace any of them, I would understand that "don't fix what isn't broken, don't risk having issues with language barrier and home sickness". But outside of them, I think most ex-OGN pros would be huge improvements. I guess Curse will be the first western team to show if putting korean masters who don't know english works.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-17 23:55:29
November 17 2014 23:54 GMT
#5885
On November 18 2014 07:59 AlterKot wrote:
Can we finally get rid of the "EU mids so good NA adcs so good" stereotype? Top4 EU mids are arguably Froggen/Selfie/xPeke/Nukeduck (I would put WDF above nukeduck but whatever). If you were to replace any of them, I would understand that "don't fix what isn't broken, don't risk having issues with language barrier and home sickness". But outside of them, I think most ex-OGN pros would be huge improvements. I guess Curse will be the first western team to show if putting korean masters who don't know english works.

Dignitas and Millenium will be the one to put that to the test. Curse only has Piglet, and AD position is probably the one that needs least communication.
Off-season = best season
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
November 17 2014 23:57 GMT
#5886
Thing is I can't believe this Mil would be worse than previous :^)
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
Kenpark
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany2350 Posts
November 18 2014 02:03 GMT
#5887
On November 18 2014 07:59 AlterKot wrote:
Can we finally get rid of the "EU mids so good NA adcs so good" stereotype? Top4 EU mids are arguably Froggen/Selfie/xPeke/Nukeduck (I would put WDF above nukeduck but whatever). If you were to replace any of them, I would understand that "don't fix what isn't broken, don't risk having issues with language barrier and home sickness". But outside of them, I think most ex-OGN pros would be huge improvements. I guess Curse will be the first western team to show if putting korean masters who don't know english works.


Lol what, if we exclude XiaoWeiXiao and Bjergsen the only mid from NA in prob top 10 best mids of western scene is prob Pobelter. You would take any mid beside him to win lane vs niQ, Selfie, Peke, Froggen, Febiven, Inca, Nuke ? Maybe I'm overexaggerating, but EU mid talent pool is way deeper.

AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-18 02:21:16
November 18 2014 02:20 GMT
#5888
I honestly have no idea, but what I was refering to was "idk I Don't think Kuro has much upside, this is EU not NA mid we're talking about", which implies that EU mids are closer to Koreans than Americans. And that's what I disagree with, the idea that difference between NA mids and EU ones is gigantic. Jesiz was a middle-of-the pack laner in EU - if Coast qualifies for LCS then we'll see how he stacks up to Americans. And if we're speaking purely about laning phase then true, I wouldn't pick anyone from NA to beat people from your list, but I don't think Niq and Febiven would do much better than pr0lly or Shipthur overall in game.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
November 18 2014 03:00 GMT
#5889
I guess I should have left the eu part out, I just don't think kuro is that good, he's shown his topside and it's good but not great.
Carrilord has arrived.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
November 18 2014 04:05 GMT
#5890
On November 18 2014 12:00 Slusher wrote:
I guess I should have left the eu part out, I just don't think kuro is that good, he's shown his topside and it's good but not great.

Lol yeah one has to be always cautios to use "EU" and "NA" in a neutral way otherwise you have a silly discussion in no time.
Off-season = best season
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-18 05:01:56
November 18 2014 05:01 GMT
#5891
to be fair I think Cacks, Chunky, Yasui and Wolfesclaw have a lot of interesting potential but na teams ain't about dat life.

here's hoping Curse doesn't break out the recycling bin
Carrilord has arrived.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 18 2014 05:21 GMT
#5892
On November 18 2014 07:53 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2014 06:56 Fusilero wrote:
Wait hold on. There are teams that said no to getting both gorilla and kuro?
"I want gorilla but fk kuro mang, I'd rather keep playing with soren and watdefox" :D

Do they speak good english?

Yes a chinese team did it but that doesnt mean anyone can. If they cant communicate it doesn't matter that their good.

SHRC arguably never made communication work. Anytime communication mattered they got language-barriered into a loss.

SHRC worked because the individual skill level put them into game states where communication doesn't matter. And I'm pretty sure the individual difference between any of the players in question and the majority of EU LCS is enough to do that.
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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-18 07:25:55
November 18 2014 07:16 GMT
#5893

Styz, gimgoon and amel to EP's second team.

Starhorn will not change their roster

Rumours of fireloli to jungle for the main EDG team

Reports of bigfile miracle's jungler replacing reborn on snakeQ
Glorious SEA doto
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
November 18 2014 10:59 GMT
#5894
http://teamfusion.gg/team-fusion-parts-ways-noblesse/

So Fusion just lost their head coach and Gleeb. The former will be replaced by Bee Sin, the latter by - oops - Chunky. Gleeb plans to go back to playing once he gets used to his meds.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
November 18 2014 13:20 GMT
#5895
On November 18 2014 19:59 AlterKot wrote:
http://teamfusion.gg/team-fusion-parts-ways-noblesse/

So Fusion just lost their head coach and Gleeb. The former will be replaced by Bee Sin, the latter by - oops - Chunky. Gleeb plans to go back to playing once he gets used to his meds.


Right in time, lol.
Now NME is pretty safe call.
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BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
November 18 2014 18:12 GMT
#5896
On November 18 2014 19:59 AlterKot wrote:
http://teamfusion.gg/team-fusion-parts-ways-noblesse/

So Fusion just lost their head coach and Gleeb. The former will be replaced by Bee Sin, the latter by - oops - Chunky. Gleeb plans to go back to playing once he gets used to his meds.


People need to stop changing up their lineup right before/in the middle of expansion and relegation tourneys. It never works.
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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
November 18 2014 18:17 GMT
#5897
well this move strikes me as more of a "we didn't have a backup plan" than anything else

I highly doubt they think it's a good idea either
Carrilord has arrived.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-18 18:52:18
November 18 2014 18:47 GMT
#5898
http://lol.esportspedia.com/wiki/Tencent_Games_Arena_Grand_Prix/Winter_2014
Group stage of LSPL qualifiers have concluded, notable teams remaining trying for LSPL include EDG.F (Currently featuring baeme and kish jungle), world elite's third team (Featuring ADC talent Q and former SC2 pro loveCD) and China Korea Dragonz (Originally TNT, featuring riris in the top lane). Notably starhorn slayers rayunion and random third party tournament spoiler MD failed to escape their groups.
Glorious SEA doto
cythaze
Profile Joined June 2011
830 Posts
November 18 2014 20:00 GMT
#5899
http://www.cphwolves.gg/news/wolves-signs-lcs-team/

unlucky rejects back at CW
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
November 18 2014 20:02 GMT
#5900
Well there goes Dexter team hype.
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