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skykh
Profile Joined September 2012
3006 Posts
May 03 2014 23:38 GMT
#2641
There is more eu junglers then na

Brokenshard,Snoopeh,Dexter,Amazing and Noname is chinese. Only crumbz,meteos and iwd are left
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-03 23:45:33
May 03 2014 23:41 GMT
#2642
On May 04 2014 08:32 templar rage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2014 08:25 onlywonderboy wrote:
TSM continues the trend of picking up EU players I really like. Say what you will about Regi but he sure is willing to make moves.


And all of them since swapping Dyrus for TRM (can't speak to before this since I didn't follow League at the time) have been substantial improvements as well.


Dyrus for TRM, WT for Chaox and Bjergsen for Reginald worked almost perfectly for TSM in different periods of time.
So, now i'm highly interested in will they bring Xpecial back or not.

And it's really seem that next season we might see number close to zero from S1/2 generation. Gambit are on their way, EG guys are on their way, i'm not sure if Fnatic's boys really want to compete more and more and so on. NA is already there, there are only basically Doublelift, Dyrus, Xpecial and Westrice from S1 Worlds, Westrice will retire after CLB gets eliminated, Xpecial is on his way right now, Doublelift, with all my love, i guess will retire as well, if CLG don't make Worlds and Dyrus, well, he might be first one with Xpecial to be on all 4 Worlds.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
May 03 2014 23:45 GMT
#2643
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/24nhbx/shc_possibly_picking_wewillfailer/

SHC might be looking for a different support. What's interesting is that LeDuc is the one duoing with Woolite, not Unlimited. So maybe Amazing is bringing him in the end :D ?
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
May 03 2014 23:46 GMT
#2644
RIP General he's streaming to 40k people right now, choking and tearing up talking about his career.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
May 03 2014 23:48 GMT
#2645
On May 04 2014 08:45 AlterKot wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/24nhbx/shc_possibly_picking_wewillfailer/

SHC might be looking for a different support. What's interesting is that LeDuc is the one duoing with Woolite, not Unlimited. So maybe Amazing is bringing him in the end :D ?


If SHC benched Migxa, i don't want to think, how many weeks will wewillfailer have to flame everyone in team.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-03 23:50:28
May 03 2014 23:49 GMT
#2646
Lomo failer again eh
On May 04 2014 08:48 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2014 08:45 AlterKot wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/24nhbx/shc_possibly_picking_wewillfailer/

SHC might be looking for a different support. What's interesting is that LeDuc is the one duoing with Woolite, not Unlimited. So maybe Amazing is bringing him in the end :D ?


If SHC benched Migxa, i don't want to think, how many weeks will wewillfailer have to flame everyone in team.

Failer is going to go hard in the paint on poor mimer and I don't think impaler/failer is going to be a good combo
Glorious SEA doto
meowmasta85
Profile Joined January 2013
721 Posts
May 04 2014 00:25 GMT
#2647
At this point I'm a little worried about the NA scene and its professional growth when teams are just so willing to pick up imports. If this continues, over half the players in NA LCS will be from outside. Don't get me wrong, I really like teams like LMQ willing to come over here, learn the language, and play the leagues to enter LCS and immerse themselves in the NA scene, or TSM's and CLG's other high profile pickups, but if you want the NA scene to grow, there should probably be a cap to how may foreign imports each team can have. I think 2 is a reasonable number per team.
orzeu
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland5205 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-04 00:58:55
May 04 2014 00:50 GMT
#2648
On May 04 2014 09:25 meowmasta85 wrote:
At this point I'm a little worried about the NA scene and its professional growth when teams are just so willing to pick up imports. If this continues, over half the players in NA LCS will be from outside. Don't get me wrong, I really like teams like LMQ willing to come over here, learn the language, and play the leagues to enter LCS and immerse themselves in the NA scene, or TSM's and CLG's other high profile pickups, but if you want the NA scene to grow, there should probably be a cap to how may foreign imports each team can have. I think 2 is a reasonable number per team.

In long run that may hurt scene pretty hard. Team outside top 3 will need to bring up players from diffrent region to keep up.
Getting into LCS for full NA team is already pretty hard, new players will lack of motivation to improve, since there will be less chance for them to get into pro scene. Soloq will be less competitive / Challenger scene will be even worse then now.
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
May 04 2014 01:15 GMT
#2649
Roccat, SK and Alliance didn't bring players from different regions, but they made top4 in Europe. C9 came out of nowhere and dominated. I'm glad that we just have more and more strong teams, I don't care about EU/NA pride as much as about western pride - as many people pointed out, EU just has a lot more players and we are somewhat restricted by language barriers (all-polish and all-russian teams), so it's only natural that some of these players can look for luck in different regions. CLG Seraph is a weird instance, I really doubt KR-to-NA will become a regular sight. And I just don't see how will having more strong players in solo queue slow the competition, get to CS first and worry about LCS later :p
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6430 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-04 01:40:57
May 04 2014 01:32 GMT
#2650
If one day Dyrus leaves and Xpecial gets permabenched, I'm going to go into a fetal position and cry.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-04 02:55:41
May 04 2014 02:55 GMT
#2651
Sadly this does ruin the EU/NA rivalry since you can't say TSM is strictly an NA team now. 2/5 of their members grew to become where they were at in terms of skill in EU. I'd be more worried about the EU scene than the NA scene. Not sure why people think this hurts the NA scene bringing imports over. Yeah, new NA players don't get to be in LCS but who cares? The scene still gained from these transfers.

I'd be more worried about EU right now. They aren't very popular to begin with, Gambit is a former shell of themselves, and no new teams are marketing their players that well so they go overseas to NA. EU needs to learn to promote their players more so this won't happen.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
May 04 2014 05:08 GMT
#2652
I didn't pay attention to EU(none of the teams interested me), somebody gimme a rundown on Amazing.
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
May 04 2014 06:28 GMT
#2653
On May 04 2014 11:55 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Sadly this does ruin the EU/NA rivalry since you can't say TSM is strictly an NA team now. 2/5 of their members grew to become where they were at in terms of skill in EU. I'd be more worried about the EU scene than the NA scene. Not sure why people think this hurts the NA scene bringing imports over. Yeah, new NA players don't get to be in LCS but who cares? The scene still gained from these transfers.

I'd be more worried about EU right now. They aren't very popular to begin with, Gambit is a former shell of themselves, and no new teams are marketing their players that well so they go overseas to NA. EU needs to learn to promote their players more so this won't happen.

100% agree with this, the EU vs NA rivalry was really fun but it's kind of ruined now since except for C9 all of the top3 NA teams have foreigners..
Im also worried about EU scene, all of the best players are leaving for NA, if this keeps happening EU will become some kind of 2nd division where only the best will reach 1st division (aka NA).
Concerning NA scene this should motivate both new and old school players to train harder I think it's great. It's also great for the viewers, personally now that Gambit are split up, I'm way more excited to watch NA LCS than EU.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-04 09:04:11
May 04 2014 08:54 GMT
#2654
On May 04 2014 14:08 Gahlo wrote:
I didn't pay attention to EU(none of the teams interested me), somebody gimme a rundown on Amazing.

Arguably the best jungler in EU LCS last split, especially strong early game. Highest kill participation out of all EU LCS players I think (like 80%, dont have the most recent stats). Strong mechanics (maybe only surpassed by Shook) but also also very good communication, as confirmed by his team mates. I would rate him above Dexter and below Meteos.

To be fair others might rate him somewhat lower than me.

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/24mamq/amazing_to_tsm/ch8jxon
Off-season = best season
skykh
Profile Joined September 2012
3006 Posts
May 04 2014 08:58 GMT
#2655
On May 04 2014 14:08 Gahlo wrote:
I didn't pay attention to EU(none of the teams interested me), somebody gimme a rundown on Amazing.


Best jungler in the world now he is one of tsm
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
May 04 2014 09:59 GMT
#2656
On May 04 2014 14:08 Gahlo wrote:
I didn't pay attention to EU(none of the teams interested me), somebody gimme a rundown on Amazing.


He has his off-games, but he's very good in general. Was carrying Wolves hard during their winstreak in Weeks 6-7 when he got back-to-back weekly MVP title. Playing almost everything, very good mechanics, decision-making should improve in TSM as well because he doesn't have 2 shitters on sololanes now.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
May 04 2014 10:09 GMT
#2657
On top of that Scip (our forum challenger jungler) said that Amazing is top3 jungler EU alongside Svenskeren and k0u.

I don't get the NA vs EU rivalry anymore, not only does it seem really shallow at this point, but also with so little international competition it's just stupid. I'm super glad some of my favorite players get to play on better teams, that's it.

Also why would EU teams promote themselves? They care about results, not about money. In fact why do you care about how popular they are and not about how good they are :D ?
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
May 04 2014 10:32 GMT
#2658
Amazing is really good, I kind of consider him a Lee Sin specialist because teams ignored to ban it for a few weeks even after he wrecked game after game with it. He's good on other champs but doesn't nearly have as much impact with them. But hey, tsm, after 4 years, finally have a jungler that has Lee Sin in his pool, so that's already huge for pick/bans. Was just sad that if tsm picked Lee, everyone would knew that it would go to Dyrus and he would play him like shit, as well.

On the other side Amazing was probably CW's worst player in playoffs/relegations, not sure if he had nerves or if it was just bad form.
Argoth.
Profile Joined December 2004
Germany1961 Posts
May 04 2014 11:15 GMT
#2659
I don't know, his Xin Zhao against alliance was pretty tight. But yeah he needs to work on his consistency.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
May 04 2014 12:29 GMT
#2660

Sheep has a team for the upcoming challenger series (New coast roster?)
Glorious SEA doto
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