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Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-03 01:08:36
May 03 2014 01:02 GMT
#2561
On May 03 2014 08:09 AlterKot wrote:
http://www.esportsheaven.com/news/view/64352

Freeze back on Alex in Pyjama, meh. Wonder what happened with Forgiven OH GOD IS HE THE NEW ADC FOR EG :D ?

Really funny, Forg1ven was still playing ranked 5 with RiPp until 7 pm today. And at 10 pm this article says he decided to leave them. Makes you wonder what happened. :D

Also I dont get why you guys speculate about him going to EG. I dont see how that would fit at all. Him going back to CW is more likely imo, as he apparently seperated on good terms with them.

Btw we are probably overdoing it a little with speculation at this point.
But then again if Lewis is able to make whole news articles out of such rumour snippets, we should be allowed to make some forum posts.
Off-season = best season
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
May 03 2014 01:11 GMT
#2562
On May 03 2014 10:02 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2014 08:09 AlterKot wrote:
http://www.esportsheaven.com/news/view/64352

Freeze back on Alex in Pyjama, meh. Wonder what happened with Forgiven OH GOD IS HE THE NEW ADC FOR EG :D ?

Really funny, Forg1ven was still playing ranked 5 with RiPp until 7 pm today. And at 10 pm this article says he decided to leave them. Makes you wonder what happened. :D

Also I dont get why you guys speculate about him going to EG. I dont see how that would fit at all. Him going back to CW is more likely imo, as he apparently seperated on good terms with them.

Btw we are probably overdoing it a little with speculation at this point.
But then again if Lewis is able to make whole news articles out of such rumours, we should be allowed to make some forum posts.


If Wolves sign him again, it will be ridiculous. After saying on every curve about how Forgiven won't play for team anymore and they still try to find a real solution for his contract which will satisfy both parties, getting him back is unreal if organisation wants to save the face.

I guess, he will just be a soloqueue God, that's it. At least, until next season.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
May 03 2014 01:14 GMT
#2563
On May 03 2014 10:11 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2014 10:02 Redox wrote:
On May 03 2014 08:09 AlterKot wrote:
http://www.esportsheaven.com/news/view/64352

Freeze back on Alex in Pyjama, meh. Wonder what happened with Forgiven OH GOD IS HE THE NEW ADC FOR EG :D ?

Really funny, Forg1ven was still playing ranked 5 with RiPp until 7 pm today. And at 10 pm this article says he decided to leave them. Makes you wonder what happened. :D

Also I dont get why you guys speculate about him going to EG. I dont see how that would fit at all. Him going back to CW is more likely imo, as he apparently seperated on good terms with them.

Btw we are probably overdoing it a little with speculation at this point.
But then again if Lewis is able to make whole news articles out of such rumours, we should be allowed to make some forum posts.


If Wolves sign him again, it will be ridiculous. After saying on every curve about how Forgiven won't play for team anymore and they still try to find a real solution for his contract which will satisfy both parties, getting him back is unreal if organisation wants to save the face.

I guess, he will just be a soloqueue God, that's it. At least, until next season.

You say youself, they want to find a solution that will satisfy both parties. If he wants to play for them again, that would possibly satisfy both parties.
I dont see how CW would lose face, as they did not kick him in the first place.
Off-season = best season
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
May 03 2014 01:17 GMT
#2564
On May 03 2014 10:14 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2014 10:11 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On May 03 2014 10:02 Redox wrote:
On May 03 2014 08:09 AlterKot wrote:
http://www.esportsheaven.com/news/view/64352

Freeze back on Alex in Pyjama, meh. Wonder what happened with Forgiven OH GOD IS HE THE NEW ADC FOR EG :D ?

Really funny, Forg1ven was still playing ranked 5 with RiPp until 7 pm today. And at 10 pm this article says he decided to leave them. Makes you wonder what happened. :D

Also I dont get why you guys speculate about him going to EG. I dont see how that would fit at all. Him going back to CW is more likely imo, as he apparently seperated on good terms with them.

Btw we are probably overdoing it a little with speculation at this point.
But then again if Lewis is able to make whole news articles out of such rumours, we should be allowed to make some forum posts.


If Wolves sign him again, it will be ridiculous. After saying on every curve about how Forgiven won't play for team anymore and they still try to find a real solution for his contract which will satisfy both parties, getting him back is unreal if organisation wants to save the face.

I guess, he will just be a soloqueue God, that's it. At least, until next season.

You say youself, they want to find a solution that will satisfy both parties. If he wants to play for them again, that would possibly satisfy both parties.
I dont see how CW would lose face, as they did not kick him in the first place.


It means, that they're finding a solution to not paying biggest compensation in CW history, i assume. If he backs, it will be ok for Wolves tho but i don't see Forgiven asking for getting him back even if he didn't flame Wolves on Twitter.


LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
Amethyst21
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada7032 Posts
May 03 2014 03:18 GMT
#2565
Cruzer has retired

In an expected move after Dig acquired Shiptur and Zion, Cruzer has retired from Professional League of Legends.
/On the C9 Hype Train/@DatFirefly
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
May 03 2014 10:58 GMT
#2566



That's basically it.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-03 11:23:51
May 03 2014 11:22 GMT
#2567
RIP Westrice vs Cruzer, RIP Westrice vs Nien, only Westrice vs Innox left ;_:

Again, I was joking about Forgiven to EG and I'm the only one who said that :p Problem with him going back to Wolves is that this would make it look like he can do whatever the fuck he wants - tell the team that he's leaving and they need to find a new ADC, and then just say "hey can I come back? I know you won't find anyone better than me". So I don't really care, but I can see why would they not want him back. I guess he's fine being out of professional competition?
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
May 03 2014 11:28 GMT
#2568
From what I can gather forg1ven only wants to be on the very best teams and CW with how much they lean on him and amazing was not going to be that kind of team he wants.
Glorious SEA doto
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
May 03 2014 12:06 GMT
#2569
Ok Forg1ven did not leave RiPp, he was basically kicked from it. That makes slightly more sense.

Off-season = best season
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
May 03 2014 12:12 GMT
#2570
New KR rumour, betkyo out of IM

IM FORG1VEN CONFIRMED UMG
Glorious SEA doto
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
May 03 2014 12:13 GMT
#2571
According to Mithy's twitter it's not that they first decided to replace Freeze with Forgiven and then the other way around. The super team was just not supposed to be a continuation of NiP but rather something build from scratch and it was only after Freeze left that Mithy realised he'd rather keep playing with him and not destroy something they worked 7 months on (their "synergy" I assume). So it's just Forgiven getting the short end of the stick. Mithy told him "I would be suprised if no one picks you up" but both NA/EU don't really have vacant positions for ADC in their top4, and no bottom team would rise to top4 with a better ADC :| Roccat and Gambit couldn't pick him because of language even if they wanted to, and even if I don't think highly of Tabzz as an ADC, I still can't imagine him being replaced.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
May 03 2014 12:28 GMT
#2572
On May 03 2014 21:13 AlterKot wrote:
According to Mithy's twitter it's not that they first decided to replace Freeze with Forgiven and then the other way around. The super team was just not supposed to be a continuation of NiP but rather something build from scratch and it was only after Freeze left that Mithy realised he'd rather keep playing with him and not destroy something they worked 7 months on (their "synergy" I assume). So it's just Forgiven getting the short end of the stick. Mithy told him "I would be suprised if no one picks you up" but both NA/EU don't really have vacant positions for ADC in their top4, and no bottom team would rise to top4 with a better ADC :| Roccat and Gambit couldn't pick him because of language even if they wanted to, and even if I don't think highly of Tabzz as an ADC, I still can't imagine him being replaced.


That's why Tabzz is the most underrated ad in Europe :D
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
orzeu
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland5205 Posts
May 03 2014 13:26 GMT
#2573
http://www.esportsheaven.com/news/64353
TSM Amazing.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-03 13:31:57
May 03 2014 13:28 GMT
#2574
On May 03 2014 22:26 orzeu wrote:
http://www.esportsheaven.com/news/64353
TSM Amazing.


CWSM.
NA is going to be incredibly competitive this way, poor CLB lol.

Anyway, CW are really on their way to be 8th.
Instead of throwing sololaners out and get someone more skillful, like Odoamne and Febiven, they just lost their 2 best players and got Woolite and Santorin. Holy Wolves.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
May 03 2014 13:36 GMT
#2575
damn son another EU import :D
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
May 03 2014 13:52 GMT
#2576
Lure forg1ven out of wolves, amazing leaves for TSM. Easy picking 8th team now, nukeduck/mithy/freeze the master strategists.
Bit sad if this is really how wolves go out though, them in the challenger scene during summer S3 is one of the most dominant performances I've ever seen and they just fizzle out like this.
Glorious SEA doto
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
May 03 2014 14:04 GMT
#2577
On May 03 2014 22:52 Fusilero wrote:
Lure forg1ven out of wolves, amazing leaves for TSM. Easy picking 8th team now, nukeduck/mithy/freeze the master strategists.
Bit sad if this is really how wolves go out though, them in the challenger scene during summer S3 is one of the most dominant performances I've ever seen and they just fizzle out like this.


Well, it's not like it was unexpected.
Shook and Rekkles were carrying CW back in the Challenger scene, Amazing and Forgiven were carrying CW back into Spring split.
Probably, we just underestimate Santorin and Woolite? But i still think that they will be on Svenskeren-TheTess carrying level duo.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-03 14:08:27
May 03 2014 14:07 GMT
#2578
Woolite is amusing but he's waaay too aggro and really can't back it up especially on a wussy team like wolves he'll probably throw a load of matches. Santorin idk I hear pros talk up his potential but on intellectual playground, TFS and now C9E he hasn't really showed up in any way, maybe CW will unlock his potential and he'll be literally dandy
As for puszu, lol no. A team that has an ADC for the sake of an ADC like S3 fnatic can do great things with puszu but CW needs their ADC to well carry and puszu certainly doesn't do that.
Glorious SEA doto
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
May 03 2014 14:07 GMT
#2579
Would make me really happy for Amazing, as he has become my favorite jungler last split. Big monies inc.
Off-season = best season
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
May 03 2014 14:11 GMT
#2580
On May 03 2014 23:07 Fusilero wrote:
Woolite is amusing but he's waaay too aggro and really can't back it up especially on a wussy team like wolves he'll probably throw a load of matches. Santorin idk I hear pros talk up his potential but on intellectual playground, TFS and now C9E he hasn't really showed up in any way, maybe CW will unlock his potential and he'll be literally dandy
As for puszu, lol no. A team that has an ADC for the sake of an ADC like S3 fnatic can do great things with puszu but CW needs their ADC to well carry and puszu certainly doesn't do that.


Woolite is absolute hit or miss, he's either 10-0 or 0-10, has to play Fiora apparently.
Puszu will be 8th place lock for CW, team without threats can't win.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
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