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sopas
Profile Joined July 2011
509 Posts
October 24 2011 14:44 GMT
#21
u know it's a good scammer when ppl still say "but he's a good guy" after being scammed. funny
Fadetowhite
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)302 Posts
October 24 2011 14:59 GMT
#22
On October 24 2011 23:44 sopas wrote:
u know it's a good scammer when ppl still say "but he's a good guy" after being scammed. funny


he (the owner) is a long time member of TL and helps with a lan on his school, he also has refunded alot of people already so he is a good guy. its just that now that i assume his money ran out for refunds he cant refund the remainder of the people and that is where we stand now .

he also said to me in a email he doesnt actually read mails until the weekend(lol) but according to his TL profile he is very active on this site. so i am hoping we the customers can get a reply out of him in this thread / via mails after reading this thread.

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Klipsys
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1533 Posts
October 24 2011 15:08 GMT
#23
People have no idea that international shipping to random counties without a tracking number is a bad move?
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Matkap
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Spain627 Posts
October 24 2011 15:14 GMT
#24
On October 24 2011 23:59 Fadetowhite wrote:
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On October 24 2011 23:44 sopas wrote:
u know it's a good scammer when ppl still say "but he's a good guy" after being scammed. funny


he (the owner) is a long time member of TL and helps with a lan on his school, he also has refunded alot of people already so he is a good guy. its just that now that i assume his money ran out for refunds he cant refund the remainder of the people and that is where we stand now .

he also said to me in a email he doesnt actually read mails until the weekend(lol) but according to his TL profile he is very active on this site. so i am hoping we the customers can get a reply out of him in this thread / via mails after reading this thread.



if he went to IPL, then he had to have some money around right?

So he musnt be that good..
A man tells his stories so many times that he becomes the stories. They live on after him, and in that way he becomes immortal.
Fadetowhite
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)302 Posts
October 24 2011 15:16 GMT
#25
On October 25 2011 00:14 Matkap wrote:
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On October 24 2011 23:59 Fadetowhite wrote:
On October 24 2011 23:44 sopas wrote:
u know it's a good scammer when ppl still say "but he's a good guy" after being scammed. funny


he (the owner) is a long time member of TL and helps with a lan on his school, he also has refunded alot of people already so he is a good guy. its just that now that i assume his money ran out for refunds he cant refund the remainder of the people and that is where we stand now .

he also said to me in a email he doesnt actually read mails until the weekend(lol) but according to his TL profile he is very active on this site. so i am hoping we the customers can get a reply out of him in this thread / via mails after reading this thread.



if he went to IPL, then he had to have some money around right?

So he musnt be that good..


i am hoping for a good reason on that one but it seems to have gone silent around him since....
but i know for a fact that alot of TLers know him in RL so i am hoping they can shake some sense into him.

and for the other comment, its not just about international shipping it is also about refunds from an order that failed so he had to refund everyone ( OZ order ).
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DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
October 24 2011 15:38 GMT
#26
Lol @ calling him a good guy. Tons of people are out money. He is completely unreachable. And he wastes money on vacations to IPL.

He is anything but a good guy. Even if you ignore the IPL part... not communicating with people is ridiculous.
Fadetowhite
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)302 Posts
October 24 2011 15:50 GMT
#27
On October 25 2011 00:38 DoomsVille wrote:
Lol @ calling him a good guy. Tons of people are out money. He is completely unreachable. And he wastes money on vacations to IPL.

He is anything but a good guy. Even if you ignore the IPL part... not communicating with people is ridiculous.


lets hope he redeems himself then (i have faith in people what can i say)
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-KarakStarcraft-
Profile Joined September 2010
United States258 Posts
October 24 2011 15:51 GMT
#28
On October 23 2011 06:27 Fadetowhite wrote:
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On October 23 2011 06:22 FryktSkyene wrote:
Hes scamming people? What a douche.

he is not scamming people it is more like he does not know how to run a company and doesnt have the time to run it, but he made it seem like he did.

so when a deal fell through ( OZ orders ) he was slapped with refunds and i am guessing he got a bit greedy and spend most of the money before he actually shipped anything.so now he has to refund thousands of dollars but no bank to actually refund it all. so that leaves people like me (400 dollars ) in the situation of him not being able to refund but no longer able to file a dispute cause of the time passed.

at first it was all good cause he kept in touch via site / pms on TL / emails but lately it has been complete lights out and havent heard of k0re in weeks. and to hear he went to IPL when he owes you 400 dollars is a bit of a slap in the face to say the least.


So you're saying he scammed a bunch of people, then.
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-24 15:59:41
October 24 2011 15:59 GMT
#29
SCmecca owner posts on TL. Let me see if I can find his handle on here.

> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=kOre
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Firesilver
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom1190 Posts
October 24 2011 16:02 GMT
#30
Well I was actually thinking about ordering something from there a couple of weeks back; this has certainly shocked me. Thank you for the heads up.

I can only hope you all get refunded or receive your items in the end.
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Fadetowhite
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)302 Posts
October 24 2011 16:04 GMT
#31
On October 25 2011 01:02 Firesilver wrote:
Well I was actually thinking about ordering something from there a couple of weeks back; this has certainly shocked me. Thank you for the heads up.

I can only hope you all get refunded or receive your items in the end.


the items themselfs are a complete lost cause it seems since OZ disbanded, the last TL post of k0re is like 2 days later than i recieved my last email.... hoping by keeping this thread somewhat alive he will read it.
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carloselcoco
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2302 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-24 16:12:04
October 24 2011 16:05 GMT
#32
On October 25 2011 00:59 Primadog wrote:
SCmecca owner posts on TL. Let me see if I can find his handle on here.

> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=kOre


Posts made in the last week = 0

Ironically, this is his last blog entry: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=243571
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Fadetowhite
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)302 Posts
October 24 2011 16:15 GMT
#33
On October 25 2011 01:05 carloselcoco wrote:
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On October 25 2011 00:59 Primadog wrote:
SCmecca owner posts on TL. Let me see if I can find his handle on here.

> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=kOre


Posts made in the last week = 0

Ironically, this is his last blog entry: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=243571


well if he is a scammer he is a really dumb one since everyone knows all his personal info...
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DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
October 24 2011 16:17 GMT
#34
He didn't intend on scamming people at first (IMO). He just has 0 business sense and at some point decided to fuck everyone over to compensate for his mistakes.
Fadetowhite
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)302 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-24 16:22:11
October 24 2011 16:21 GMT
#35
On October 25 2011 01:17 DoomsVille wrote:
He didn't intend on scamming people at first (IMO). He just has 0 business sense and at some point decided to fuck everyone over to compensate for his mistakes.


you dont happen to live anywhere close to him do you ?
also on his site he still appears to be doing lan things on his school every wednesday.
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DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
October 24 2011 16:26 GMT
#36
On October 25 2011 01:21 Fadetowhite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2011 01:17 DoomsVille wrote:
He didn't intend on scamming people at first (IMO). He just has 0 business sense and at some point decided to fuck everyone over to compensate for his mistakes.


you dont happen to live anywhere close to him do you ?
also on his site he still appears to be doing lan things on his school every wednesday.

Nope. But I'm certain there are a ton of TLers that do.
Calm
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada380 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-24 16:45:53
October 24 2011 16:26 GMT
#37
I'm in the U of C club with him. We meet on wednesday. Afaik, he's not scamming. Those people suggesting he's using SCM money to travel to IPL are really out of line... Blind accusations seem really popular in this thread though.
I'm sure he'll be refunding people out of pocket if necessary.

I think he has a phone number in the signature on his emails, has anyone tried that?

Edited for clarity.
Fadetowhite
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)302 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-24 16:38:39
October 24 2011 16:29 GMT
#38
On October 25 2011 01:26 Calm wrote:
I'm in the U of C club with him. We meet on wednesday. Afaik, he's not scamming. Those people suggesting he's using SCM money to travel to IPL are really out of line... Though I'm sure he'll be refunding people out of pocket if all of this is true.
I think he has a phone number in the signature on his emails, has anyone tried that?


slap the shit out of him and tell him to reply here / emails / pms etc etc....
btw are those "midterms" over yet cause i know he used that as an excuse to alot of customers.
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DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
October 24 2011 16:40 GMT
#39
On October 25 2011 01:26 Calm wrote:
I'm in the U of C club with him. We meet on wednesday. Afaik, he's not scamming. Those people suggesting he's using SCM money to travel to IPL are really out of line... Though I'm sure he'll be refunding people out of pocket if all of this is true.
I think he has a phone number in the signature on his emails, has anyone tried that?

If he has to refund money out of pocket, then of course he used the SCM money for his own personal use...
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-24 17:14:18
October 24 2011 16:48 GMT
#40
Just a bit of background to those who may not be aware of the previous history of StarcraftMecca. ***Much of what I'm saying is speculative and based on what kOre has reported*** (TLDR at bottom)

kOre, the owner of that site tried to do something good for the community, while (presumably) making relatively little profit. I don't think he's ever had a very deep bank account given that he's in his 20's and in school, I believe.

1-
The first sale was CJ Entus - he sold various items, including a jacket and some shirts. Unfortunately, the huge boxes were marked as worth $1, which got them held at customs and ultimately forced him to pay additional fees (which perhaps were not calculated into the price he charged his customers). On top of that, one box got opened in transit and some of the merchandise slipped out - we're talking about many jackets which were rather expensive plus shirts. Ultimately, I was lucky and got my jacket (although months late due to MANY various delays) and my shirt which was missing was refunded as store credit - though we had an option to get a direct refund from HIS POCKET.

Costs to him (and his partner who left the project later): Customs + Lost items. He's probably losing money overall.

2-
Later on there was the Hwaseung sale and I ordered stuff again... Customs held the packages again. They held the stuff for a LONG time because kOre was under investigation for fraud because shipping had taken such a long time and many impatient people filed fraud report. Frankly, I can hardly blame them because k0re is insanely hard to get in touch with sometimes and his answers are not always satisfying. In fact, kOre's estimates were consistently too liberal. After months waiting, kOre finally got to meet with a customs agent or whatever the hell those things are called. Turns out, none of the merchandise had the "made in Korea" tag written on it, which is against some BS Canadian regulations. The merchandise, worth thousands of dollars, got shipped back to Korea.

Now, most of the refunds for that merchandise have gone through but the merchandise can't be sold at the same price given that Hwaseung Oz is dead. Plus, shipping to him would cost another few hundreds and importation fees.

Costs to him: Everything. Thousands of dollars here, for sure.

3-
Slayers sale: Many people ordered, Jessica flipped out and the whole thing got stomped. kOre had to refund all the orders.

Costs to him: Whatever fees are involved in the payment/refund process. Probably not that much, but an annoyance for sure.

4-
I don't know much about the GSL shirts sale, I personally wasn't interested, but they were relatively "cheap". There's no way he would recover the losses he incurred in the 3 previous sales. It's not the first time kOre completely cut contacts with his customers for a while (I know he went to Blizzcon). He should come back soon I'd guess.


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StarcraftMecca has had an extremely rough start, which undoubtedly puts an incredible strain on kOre's finances. It's his fault to a certain extent (or completely). Running a business is hard - running a business alone with school+job is really hard. I'm not making an excuse for him, arguably he's screwing up hard, but I strongly believe that he's never had any intentions of scamming people. If you don't have your GSL stuff, it's probably coming slowly. If you don't have your Hwaseung Oz refund, maybe there was a mistake or he just doesn't have the money to refund you or something.

I know that in his position, many adventurous young folks wanting to become business-people would have to file for bankruptcy here to be able to move on with their life.

That said, I've been in that position twice and I feel your pain. Doing business with StarcraftMecca hasn't been easy and I hope your issues get resolved.
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