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On October 08 2011 11:30 ELA wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2011 11:28 Grettin wrote:On October 08 2011 11:25 turdburgler wrote:
should rename the thread "idra goes to bed" Should also include players like HerO, Select, Sleep and Thorzain to this. They did basically the same thing, with different reasons - decided not to play their games, despite the fans and such. Wasn't this forced on them though, from the tournament? Or did they actually get together and decided that they wouldn't play? I was kinda under the assumption that it was a tournament-decision, I might be wrong though
They decided they didn't want to play.
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On October 08 2011 11:30 ELA wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2011 11:28 Grettin wrote:On October 08 2011 11:25 turdburgler wrote:
should rename the thread "idra goes to bed" Should also include players like HerO, Select, Sleep and Thorzain to this. They did basically the same thing, with different reasons - decided not to play their games, despite the fans and such. Wasn't this forced on them though, from the tournament? Or did they actually get together and decided that they wouldn't play? I was kinda under the assumption that it was a tournament-decision, I might be wrong though
They all agreed that they don't want to play the rest of the games, nothing was forced. Thats what i got from all the statements/comments.
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It's a fine decision by idra, better to be well rested for tomorrow's games then to play shitty games tonight and still be tired tomorrow.
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I don't see what the big deal is; he essentially forfeited 2 exhibition games.
Enough with the exhibition games. Let's bring on the real tournament.
(Hype.)
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On October 08 2011 11:30 ELA wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2011 11:28 Grettin wrote:On October 08 2011 11:25 turdburgler wrote:
should rename the thread "idra goes to bed" Should also include players like HerO, Select, Sleep and Thorzain to this. They did basically the same thing, with different reasons - decided not to play their games, despite the fans and such. Wasn't this forced on them though, from the tournament? Or did they actually get together and decided that they wouldn't play? I was kinda under the assumption that it was a tournament-decision, I might be wrong though
THat's even worse, imagine a tourney that goes "oh hey shit, we don't have time for you to play, so we need you to flip coins"
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As a probable idra hater I can say it doesn't bother me, I don't see any prob with it and personally dont care for seeding/ extended games/ champ brackets/ ect
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That's what you get when you make group play worth nothing. He's gotta look at the bigger picture and make sure he's in good shape for the important games.
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Group C flips coins for placement and people expect idra to act "professional" for these meaningless groups? money aside, why even show your opponents games for them to see to use against you later in bracket play when it matters, especially koreans who can break his fragile early-mid game.
people making way to big a deal out of this, if it was any other players people wouldnt give 2 fucks
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Glad to know he knows his limits
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On October 08 2011 11:30 cyprin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2011 11:30 ELA wrote:On October 08 2011 11:28 Grettin wrote:On October 08 2011 11:25 turdburgler wrote:
should rename the thread "idra goes to bed" Should also include players like HerO, Select, Sleep and Thorzain to this. They did basically the same thing, with different reasons - decided not to play their games, despite the fans and such. Wasn't this forced on them though, from the tournament? Or did they actually get together and decided that they wouldn't play? I was kinda under the assumption that it was a tournament-decision, I might be wrong though They decided they didn't want to play.
Hmm, I must have understood this article from IPL then
http://esfiworld.com/sc2/news/ipl3-cancels-group-c-due-delays
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great decision .... by far the best choice if he wants to win the tournament
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On October 08 2011 11:24 mtn wrote:
I don't even know how this guy can have any fans... It's a mystery to me.
he whines alot about zerg being to weak and terran/toss to strong.
so he has a big influence on the community especially for the zergs
people like to blame everyone/thing else rather than looking in the mirror or a replay.
and with idra than can back up the balance whine because he is a pro.
Mystery solved.
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On October 08 2011 11:32 me_viet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2011 11:30 ELA wrote:On October 08 2011 11:28 Grettin wrote:On October 08 2011 11:25 turdburgler wrote:
should rename the thread "idra goes to bed" Should also include players like HerO, Select, Sleep and Thorzain to this. They did basically the same thing, with different reasons - decided not to play their games, despite the fans and such. Wasn't this forced on them though, from the tournament? Or did they actually get together and decided that they wouldn't play? I was kinda under the assumption that it was a tournament-decision, I might be wrong though THat's even worse, imagine a tourney that goes "oh hey shit, we don't have time for you to play, so we need you to flip coins"
lol dreamhack
Also, for people asking why IdrA bothered playing White-Ra then... Obviously this is speculation, but his incentive to continue to play decreases a huge amount after losing that series. Odds of taking first for the $1000 becomes extremely difficult, and even 2nd place becomes an uphill battle.
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Wow, some people are being absolute assholes about this. Idra made a good choice here for both himself and the fans.
Now we get to see him playing at his fullest instead of 70%. It'll be far more entertaining, imo.
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This is the sort of thing that happens when your pool play isn't important.
Glad IdrA's gettin his sleep, looking forward to his 100% tomorrow.
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This just goes to prove a lesson to all tournament organizers to add elimination to last place in pool/group stage. There HAS to be elimination or players see it as a joke. I dislike Idra's decision but I hope this at least made organizers open their eyes to the problem. It'll just be funny when group/pool play has last place elimination and people start complaining because it's too "punishing".
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Nobody should have a problem with this decision, it makes sense.
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Good choice, in Naniwa's words, you play to get first, not for consolation prizes and seedings.
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On October 08 2011 11:35 ELA wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2011 11:30 cyprin wrote:On October 08 2011 11:30 ELA wrote:On October 08 2011 11:28 Grettin wrote:On October 08 2011 11:25 turdburgler wrote:
should rename the thread "idra goes to bed" Should also include players like HerO, Select, Sleep and Thorzain to this. They did basically the same thing, with different reasons - decided not to play their games, despite the fans and such. Wasn't this forced on them though, from the tournament? Or did they actually get together and decided that they wouldn't play? I was kinda under the assumption that it was a tournament-decision, I might be wrong though They decided they didn't want to play. Hmm, I must have understood this article from IPL then http://esfiworld.com/sc2/news/ipl3-cancels-group-c-due-delays
Here's the statements/comments:
"The seeding is clearly not ideal in any way, shape or form. However, Select, Sleep, Thorzain and Hero have been waiting to play or playing in high latency for something like 9 hours. It was unacceptable for us to keep them here waiting for them to play, and then forcing them to play after that long of a delay would be criminal."
"Did you ask them if they are okay with the problems and are willing to play?"
They made it very clear they did not want to play.
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