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setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
August 16 2011 13:18 GMT
#10341
The "iS" thing is so obvious. Clearly Stork is now giving up his professional WoW career to join EG for SC2.
Omican
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands32 Posts
August 16 2011 13:18 GMT
#10342
This thread has gone over so many different off-topic arguments in it's life. I remember Llama's..
carloselcoco
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2302 Posts
August 16 2011 13:18 GMT
#10343
So, last audio will be released at 11:30 AM EDT.
BTW, the faded title at the top is for sure going to say "THIS IS NOT A JOKE"
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Buzerio
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Kingdom135 Posts
August 16 2011 13:18 GMT
#10344
On August 16 2011 22:15 Heazy wrote:
Flash is finally moving to SC2 and will join Team Evil Geniuses


that would be Epic, Flash, The Ulimate Weapon, The Chedder Terran, playing SC2
SpiffD
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark1264 Posts
August 16 2011 13:18 GMT
#10345
PR guy at EG is surely getting a raise after this.
Vir prudens non contra ventum mingit
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
August 16 2011 13:18 GMT
#10346
Another overhype?
gammAwolfa
Profile Joined November 2010
Finland213 Posts
August 16 2011 13:18 GMT
#10347
this iS madness
dota2 - imiceice ~
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50119 Posts
August 16 2011 13:18 GMT
#10348
On August 16 2011 22:15 Heazy wrote:
Flash is finally moving to SC2 and will join Team Evil Geniuses


no.
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IceSlipper
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Australia1028 Posts
August 16 2011 13:18 GMT
#10349
On August 16 2011 22:18 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2011 22:16 Yaotzin wrote:
On August 16 2011 22:14 Phayze wrote:
On August 16 2011 22:13 cdhstarbuck wrote:
On August 16 2011 22:06 Krainer wrote:
On August 16 2011 22:02 ExO_ wrote:
On August 16 2011 22:01 Krainer wrote:
On August 16 2011 21:58 Stijx wrote:
On August 16 2011 21:54 Krainer wrote:
On August 16 2011 21:48 Abrafred wrote:
anyone else becoming an EG hater after this?



I already am.

But I will become a Huk hater. I just pray that it doesn't come to that.


That's really sad.



A sellout is a sellout. Plain and simple.


If you had a chance to make serious money playing a game you love, wouldn't you take it? You cannot hate HuK for moving to a team that is willing to pay much, much more than TL can afford.

Edit: Or if you do, you are being very selfish. You think HuK should stay on TL just because you like TL more, regardless of what is better for him?



1) He is doing it for the money <-- Sellout

or

2) He prefers EG team to Liquid/oGs <-- Not worthy to be looked up to


Regardless, would be bad career path and he would lose fans.


Making more money definitly would be a bad career move.

Debate of long term vs short term semantics. Depends how long he plans on playing the game. I sure wont be near as much of a fan of HuK if he wasnt on liquid.

Yep. If he joins EG for a better salary but he moves to America or somesuch, I would consider that sacrificing his long term career for a better salary for now. OTOH if EG are also getting some arrangement with a Korean team or somesuch so his practice environment remains good, then it would be totally understandable.


But wat if he moves back to America because he misses his family? Would it still be selling out?

Yes, he can do that with liquid..
Seam
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1093 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-16 13:23:21
August 16 2011 13:18 GMT
#10350
On August 16 2011 22:15 j0ker wrote:
EG absolutely killed this. The amount of hype they generated for this announcement, whatever it may be, is insane.


They hardly generated any hype. They simply put up a counter that unlocks audio files every now and again.

They hardly even mentioned it.

The COMMUNITY generated the hype for them.
I only needed one probe to take down idra. I had to upgrade to a zealot for strelok. - Liquid`Tyler
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
August 16 2011 13:19 GMT
#10351
IS is a top level Icelandic Internet domain

New team house in Reykjavik!
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UNeeK
Profile Joined January 2011
United States237 Posts
August 16 2011 13:19 GMT
#10352
On August 16 2011 22:15 spawnzero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2011 22:13 yeint wrote:
On August 16 2011 22:01 Krainer wrote:
On August 16 2011 21:58 Stijx wrote:
On August 16 2011 21:54 Krainer wrote:
On August 16 2011 21:48 Abrafred wrote:
anyone else becoming an EG hater after this?



I already am.

But I will become a Huk hater. I just pray that it doesn't come to that.


That's really sad.



A sellout is a sellout. Plain and simple.


A professional gamer moving to a new team once his contract is up is not "selling out".

The term "sellout" is used for artists who sacrifice their artistic integrity in order to appeal to larger audiences.

Using it in this context is absolutely juvenile. And by "juvenile", I mean that you appear to be about 12 years old, and treat Team Liquid as some sort of league of superheroes, instead of the professional gaming team that it is.


Very true statement.

If, for example, Peyton Manning were traded/resigned to say the Dolphins for way more money (for god knows what reason), people wouldn't be like OMG what a sellout fuck him!!! They'd just see it as "Wow, sucks for the colts but good for him he's making way more money."


Yet the world called lebron james a sellout for signing with the miami heat...
Krainer
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada55 Posts
August 16 2011 13:19 GMT
#10353
On August 16 2011 22:13 Linwelin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2011 22:13 cdhstarbuck wrote:
On August 16 2011 22:06 Krainer wrote:

1) He is doing it for the money <-- Sellout

or

2) He prefers EG team to Liquid/oGs <-- Not worthy to be looked up to


Regardless, would be bad career path and he would lose fans.


Making more money definitly would be a bad career move.


Obviously



Practicing with incontrol, idra, machine, lzgamer ? Yeah....that is a huge career blunder, there is a reason none of those boys can preform. The only thing idra has won since leaving korea is IPL season 1, and that was like the first month back. Now he is horrible and so will anyone who joins that team.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
August 16 2011 13:19 GMT
#10354
On August 16 2011 22:18 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2011 22:15 Heazy wrote:
Flash is finally moving to SC2 and will join Team Evil Geniuses


no.


Someone is taking things too seriously here.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
me_viet
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia1350 Posts
August 16 2011 13:19 GMT
#10355
On August 16 2011 22:14 Derez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2011 22:09 ExO_ wrote:
On August 16 2011 22:06 Tantaburs wrote:
On August 16 2011 22:01 Krainer wrote:
On August 16 2011 21:58 Stijx wrote:
On August 16 2011 21:54 Krainer wrote:
On August 16 2011 21:48 Abrafred wrote:
anyone else becoming an EG hater after this?



I already am.

But I will become a Huk hater. I just pray that it doesn't come to that.


That's really sad.



A sellout is a sellout. Plain and simple.


How is switching teams selling out?.

Would it be selling out if you left a job as a low level lawyer to get a higher level job at another company that pays more

If HuK does leave Liquid for EG be it for money or to live in a practice house in the states then he is not selling out he is switching teams.

SC2 is Huk's career if he wants to move to EG for money reasons then it is a career move not him selling out.


100% agree. God forbid a pro gaming team actually pay players a competitive salary. That must be terrible for e-sports.

Not hating on TL, but seriously think about it from HuK's shoes. If I had to choose between losing some fans, and gaining a huge salary increase, I know what I would choose, and I know what 90% of the people hating on this move would choose.


The only reason he's actually in Code S is because he's on TL. I understand wanting to switch for money, but if the entire announcement is that huk is switching to EG, being booted from the oGs house and moving into an apartment on his own, I doubt it will benefit his SC2 results at all.

Short term monetary gains in exchange for joining a mediocre team with no korean infrastructure that, in the long term, will result in him just becoming someone with idra-like results. Why exactly is it unfair to critizise him for that?


You forget, TL itself is a mediocre team compared to the korean teams. I can't remember the last time a Liquid member won something since jinro being in GSL. Ret did pretty good recently I'll admit, but TL is really only 'good' atm because of their affiliation with oGs, and really only Jinro/Huk are actually in Korea atm.

If say EG managed to grab a partnership too with say IM, then this is perhaps the best move possible for huk. However, this is all speculation, and we should just wait for the announcement, not like there's a shirt prize or anything =P
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
August 16 2011 13:19 GMT
#10356
On August 16 2011 22:18 Seam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2011 22:15 j0ker wrote:
EG absolutely killed this. The amount of hype they generated for this announcement, whatever it may be, is insane.


They hardly generated any hype. They simply put up a counter that unlocks audio files every now and again.

They never once even mentioned it.

The COMMUNITY generated the hype for them.


So they tricked the community to generate hype for them... for free?
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DertoQq
Profile Joined October 2010
France906 Posts
August 16 2011 13:19 GMT
#10357
A new team is getting formed named iS ? : D
"i've made some empty promises in my life, but hands down that was the most generous" - Michael Scott
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
August 16 2011 13:19 GMT
#10358
On August 16 2011 22:14 Derez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2011 22:09 ExO_ wrote:
On August 16 2011 22:06 Tantaburs wrote:
On August 16 2011 22:01 Krainer wrote:
On August 16 2011 21:58 Stijx wrote:
On August 16 2011 21:54 Krainer wrote:
On August 16 2011 21:48 Abrafred wrote:
anyone else becoming an EG hater after this?



I already am.

But I will become a Huk hater. I just pray that it doesn't come to that.


That's really sad.



A sellout is a sellout. Plain and simple.


How is switching teams selling out?.

Would it be selling out if you left a job as a low level lawyer to get a higher level job at another company that pays more

If HuK does leave Liquid for EG be it for money or to live in a practice house in the states then he is not selling out he is switching teams.

SC2 is Huk's career if he wants to move to EG for money reasons then it is a career move not him selling out.


100% agree. God forbid a pro gaming team actually pay players a competitive salary. That must be terrible for e-sports.

Not hating on TL, but seriously think about it from HuK's shoes. If I had to choose between losing some fans, and gaining a huge salary increase, I know what I would choose, and I know what 90% of the people hating on this move would choose.


The only reason he's actually in Code S is because he's on TL. I understand wanting to switch for money, but if the entire announcement is that huk is switching to EG, being booted from the oGs house and moving into an apartment on his own, I doubt it will benefit his SC2 results at all.

Short term monetary gains in exchange for joining a mediocre team with no korean infrastructure that, in the long term, will result in him just becoming someone with idra-like results. Why exactly is it unfair to critizise him for that?



He is not being criticized for the reasons you listed, but to answer your question: You're saying what "will" happen. Not what has happened. If HuK leaves the oGs-TL house and still stays in code S, will you come back and retract your words? I think it is unfair to criticize him for what "might" happen.

Not to say living in the pro-house hasn't helped him, quite the contrary. But I think you have to give him the chance to succeed first before you can criticize him for failing.


However, the majority of people are more upset that HuK is leaving TL, precious TL. I can appreciate the fact that this is TL's site, and people should rightfully so support TL. But the bases for the hate on HuK is purely the fact that he's leaving TL, nothing more.
Tantaburs
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1825 Posts
August 16 2011 13:20 GMT
#10359
On August 16 2011 22:17 Lordwar wrote:
Guys, its "sell out" if liquid sold huk to another team which is not case in sc2 pro scene because things dont work like that.


If buy "thats not how the SC2 pro scene works" you mean that players aren't transfered with transfer payments then your wrong.

EG payed a transfer payment to mym(i think) for demuslim. If HuKs contract is up then no payment would be needed as there is no contract holding HuK to liquid but if he is still under contract then EG will have to pay Liquid for him
"One cannot play StarCraft with clenched fish.." ~Nick "Confucius" Plott
rotegirte
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany2859 Posts
August 16 2011 13:20 GMT
#10360
On August 16 2011 22:18 Mattchew wrote:
it would be fantastic if tl, eg and dignitas formed a korean team named "Killing ESPORTS iSPORTS"



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