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LeLeech
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom211 Posts
June 26 2011 01:00 GMT
#2081
On June 26 2011 09:59 LoLAdriankat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2011 09:58 meep wrote:
On June 26 2011 09:56 LeLeech wrote:
On June 26 2011 08:59 EvilTeletubby wrote:
On June 26 2011 08:15 PartyBiscuit wrote:
Oh man, the Combatex interview is horribly amazing. Is he Asian by the way?


No he's Pakistani


South Asian


what?

Hint: Pakistan isn't in the Middle East.


So hes South Asian, not Middle Eastern Asian.
LoL stream: ~190k viewers. SC2 stream: ~85k viewers. Really Blizzard?
vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-26 01:00:56
June 26 2011 01:00 GMT
#2082
On June 26 2011 09:51 MeNoBm! wrote:
I personally think he is just an epic trollololol

I made a TL account JUST to post in this thread as the skype conversation was absolutely hilarious and nothing short of a great Friday night,
I personally think that was more epic and was more talked about then any GSL/OSL/MSL in a very long time.

Lets face it, combatex is a legend and bm'ing is just another aspect of the sc community that people need to get use to (clearly)


Hello mr 2 post count canadian. Welcome to TL. Enjoy your stay.
If it's stupid but it works, then it's not stupid* (*Or: You are stupid for losing to it, and gotta git gud)
KoshkaTV
Profile Joined October 2010
United States430 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-26 01:04:26
June 26 2011 01:01 GMT
#2083
On June 26 2011 09:54 zidaneshead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2011 09:46 tokicheese wrote:
I think he is just an epic troll. I played with people online who would keep pretty much the exact same persona going for hours to troll people and then would switch it off and be totally cool to talk too. If someone acted like that in real life I doubt he would not be forced to seek help in Canadian high schools.


Uh no, this isn't trolling. This lasted 6 fucking hours.


Hence.. EPIC trolling :D


Troll, epic troll, or just some messed up megalomaniac that plays SC2.

Does it matter?

Are you not entertained? ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED!!!!!!

At least CombatEx isn't hiding the fact that he's an asshole. He's not undercutting and backstabbing.... he's open and honest about how he feels.

The fact that people can't handle that he LOVE HIMSELF.... is their problem, not his.

I admire anyone that's not trying to be like other people.

CombatEx, for better or worse, at least fits that bill.

www.KoshkaTV.com
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
June 26 2011 01:02 GMT
#2084
Funny how everything Combat said for six hours matches almost exactly the traits listed by some posters as common to one or more mental disorders. If you believe that Combat is a troll, I really have to call your intelligence into question.
m2e
Profile Joined April 2011
United States108 Posts
June 26 2011 01:02 GMT
#2085
So how long did the shitfest on skype end up going for? I went to sleep around 4am EST i believe and they were still going at it.
vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
June 26 2011 01:03 GMT
#2086
On June 26 2011 10:01 dsousa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2011 09:54 zidaneshead wrote:
On June 26 2011 09:46 tokicheese wrote:
I think he is just an epic troll. I played with people online who would keep pretty much the exact same persona going for hours to troll people and then would switch it off and be totally cool to talk too. If someone acted like that in real life I doubt he would not be forced to seek help in Canadian high schools.


Uh no, this isn't trolling. This lasted 6 fucking hours.


Hence.. EPIC trolling :D


Troll, epic troll, or just some messed up megalomaniac that play SC2.

Does it matter?

Are you not entertained? ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED!!!!!!

At least CombatEx isn't hiding the fact that he's an asshole. He's not undercutting and backstabbing.... he's open and honest about how he feels.

The fact that people can't handle that he LOVE HIMSELF.... is their problem, not his.

I admire anyone that's not trying to be like other people.

CombatEx, for better or worse, at least fits that bill.



Just because he's honest and not ashamed of who he is doesn't mean he's not a fucking asshole. If an asshole is honest about being an asshole, he's still an asshole.
If it's stupid but it works, then it's not stupid* (*Or: You are stupid for losing to it, and gotta git gud)
KoshkaTV
Profile Joined October 2010
United States430 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-26 01:06:34
June 26 2011 01:05 GMT
#2087
On June 26 2011 10:03 vOdToasT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2011 10:01 dsousa wrote:
On June 26 2011 09:54 zidaneshead wrote:
On June 26 2011 09:46 tokicheese wrote:
I think he is just an epic troll. I played with people online who would keep pretty much the exact same persona going for hours to troll people and then would switch it off and be totally cool to talk too. If someone acted like that in real life I doubt he would not be forced to seek help in Canadian high schools.


Uh no, this isn't trolling. This lasted 6 fucking hours.


Hence.. EPIC trolling :D


Troll, epic troll, or just some messed up megalomaniac that play SC2.

Does it matter?

Are you not entertained? ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED!!!!!!

At least CombatEx isn't hiding the fact that he's an asshole. He's not undercutting and backstabbing.... he's open and honest about how he feels.

The fact that people can't handle that he LOVE HIMSELF.... is their problem, not his.

I admire anyone that's not trying to be like other people.

CombatEx, for better or worse, at least fits that bill.



Just because he's honest and not ashamed of who he is doesn't mean he's not a fucking asshole. If an asshole is honest about being an asshole, he's still an asshole.


True... and plenty of your mannered SC2 heros are really assholes..... just putting on a nice mannered show for you...enjoy.

My point is.. you can't judge these people like you know them.. .they are characters... and CombatEx is a good character.

Its all a show... its showbiz!
www.KoshkaTV.com
zidaneshead
Profile Joined November 2010
245 Posts
June 26 2011 01:06 GMT
#2088
On June 26 2011 10:01 dsousa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2011 09:54 zidaneshead wrote:
On June 26 2011 09:46 tokicheese wrote:
I think he is just an epic troll. I played with people online who would keep pretty much the exact same persona going for hours to troll people and then would switch it off and be totally cool to talk too. If someone acted like that in real life I doubt he would not be forced to seek help in Canadian high schools.


Uh no, this isn't trolling. This lasted 6 fucking hours.


Hence.. EPIC trolling :D


Troll, epic troll, or just some messed up megalomaniac that play SC2.

Does it matter?

Are you not entertained? ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED!!!!!!

At least CombatEx isn't hiding the fact that he's an asshole. He's not undercutting and backstabbing.... he's open and honest about how he feels.

The fact that people can't handle that he LOVE HIMSELF.... is their problem, not his.

I admire anyone that's not trying to be like other people.

CombatEx, for better or worse, at least fits that bill.



Not hiding that he's an asshole? This kid is a chronic liar. You think any girl would date this clown? You think he could be an actual PT for anybody? He might have asperger's or something. This kid isn't trolling, he's getting legitimately angry, he's showing real emotion. You think he acted this for 6 hours straight? He has some sort of psycological problem. I have never listened to a bigger douchebag than this kid. I can't believe some people are actually fans of his.
vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-26 01:10:08
June 26 2011 01:08 GMT
#2089
On June 26 2011 10:05 dsousa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2011 10:03 vOdToasT wrote:
On June 26 2011 10:01 dsousa wrote:
On June 26 2011 09:54 zidaneshead wrote:
On June 26 2011 09:46 tokicheese wrote:
I think he is just an epic troll. I played with people online who would keep pretty much the exact same persona going for hours to troll people and then would switch it off and be totally cool to talk too. If someone acted like that in real life I doubt he would not be forced to seek help in Canadian high schools.


Uh no, this isn't trolling. This lasted 6 fucking hours.


Hence.. EPIC trolling :D


Troll, epic troll, or just some messed up megalomaniac that play SC2.

Does it matter?

Are you not entertained? ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED!!!!!!

At least CombatEx isn't hiding the fact that he's an asshole. He's not undercutting and backstabbing.... he's open and honest about how he feels.

The fact that people can't handle that he LOVE HIMSELF.... is their problem, not his.

I admire anyone that's not trying to be like other people.

CombatEx, for better or worse, at least fits that bill.



Just because he's honest and not ashamed of who he is doesn't mean he's not a fucking asshole. If an asshole is honest about being an asshole, he's still an asshole.


True... and plenty of your mannered SC2 heros are really assholes..... just putting on a nice mannered show for you...enjoy.

My point is.. you can't judge these people like you know them.. .they are characters... and CombatEx is a good character.

Its all a show... its showbiz!


I don't think he's a good character. I think he's a fucking asshole. And I judge people based on their actions. I saw Combat-Ex commit shitty actions that, in my opinion, makes him an asshole. Why can I not judge him when I've seen him be an asshole for YEARS? It goes back to Brood War, dude.

You think any girl would date this clown?


A lot of people are really shallow, and he doesn't look bad. So yes. Also, why wouldn't there be girls that are on his level of maturity?
If it's stupid but it works, then it's not stupid* (*Or: You are stupid for losing to it, and gotta git gud)
zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
June 26 2011 01:09 GMT
#2090
On June 26 2011 10:06 zidaneshead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2011 10:01 dsousa wrote:
On June 26 2011 09:54 zidaneshead wrote:
On June 26 2011 09:46 tokicheese wrote:
I think he is just an epic troll. I played with people online who would keep pretty much the exact same persona going for hours to troll people and then would switch it off and be totally cool to talk too. If someone acted like that in real life I doubt he would not be forced to seek help in Canadian high schools.


Uh no, this isn't trolling. This lasted 6 fucking hours.


Hence.. EPIC trolling :D


Troll, epic troll, or just some messed up megalomaniac that play SC2.

Does it matter?

Are you not entertained? ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED!!!!!!

At least CombatEx isn't hiding the fact that he's an asshole. He's not undercutting and backstabbing.... he's open and honest about how he feels.

The fact that people can't handle that he LOVE HIMSELF.... is their problem, not his.

I admire anyone that's not trying to be like other people.

CombatEx, for better or worse, at least fits that bill.



Not hiding that he's an asshole? This kid is a chronic liar. You think any girl would date this clown? You think he could be an actual PT for anybody? He might have asperger's or something. This kid isn't trolling, he's getting legitimately angry, he's showing real emotion. You think he acted this for 6 hours straight? He has some sort of psycological problem. I have never listened to a bigger douchebag than this kid. I can't believe some people are actually fans of his.

please don't lump asperger's syndrome in this. I'm diagnosed with it [high functioning] + high functioning autism by my school (yay 504 plan) and other places. and I find him despicable.

Then again, I don't know how lower functioning asperger's are like, so, meh.
Twitter: @zhurai | Site: http://zhurai.com
KoshkaTV
Profile Joined October 2010
United States430 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-26 01:14:50
June 26 2011 01:10 GMT
#2091
On June 26 2011 10:08 vOdToasT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2011 10:05 dsousa wrote:
On June 26 2011 10:03 vOdToasT wrote:
On June 26 2011 10:01 dsousa wrote:
On June 26 2011 09:54 zidaneshead wrote:
On June 26 2011 09:46 tokicheese wrote:
I think he is just an epic troll. I played with people online who would keep pretty much the exact same persona going for hours to troll people and then would switch it off and be totally cool to talk too. If someone acted like that in real life I doubt he would not be forced to seek help in Canadian high schools.


Uh no, this isn't trolling. This lasted 6 fucking hours.


Hence.. EPIC trolling :D


Troll, epic troll, or just some messed up megalomaniac that play SC2.

Does it matter?

Are you not entertained? ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED!!!!!!

At least CombatEx isn't hiding the fact that he's an asshole. He's not undercutting and backstabbing.... he's open and honest about how he feels.

The fact that people can't handle that he LOVE HIMSELF.... is their problem, not his.

I admire anyone that's not trying to be like other people.

CombatEx, for better or worse, at least fits that bill.



Just because he's honest and not ashamed of who he is doesn't mean he's not a fucking asshole. If an asshole is honest about being an asshole, he's still an asshole.


True... and plenty of your mannered SC2 heros are really assholes..... just putting on a nice mannered show for you...enjoy.

My point is.. you can't judge these people like you know them.. .they are characters... and CombatEx is a good character.

Its all a show... its showbiz!


I don't think he's a good character. I think he's a fucking asshole. And I judge people based on their actions. I saw Combat-Ex commit shitty actions that, in my opinion, makes him an asshole. Why can I not judge him when I've seen him be an asshole for YEARS? It goes back to Brood War, dude.


Of course you can judge him however you like. Just as he can ACT however he likes. No one has to like it.. you are free to hate him. TL is free to prevent him from having a fan club. Events are free to exclude him. There is plenty of downside for him because of his actions.

www.KoshkaTV.com
vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
June 26 2011 01:13 GMT
#2092
On June 26 2011 10:10 dsousa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2011 10:08 vOdToasT wrote:
On June 26 2011 10:05 dsousa wrote:
On June 26 2011 10:03 vOdToasT wrote:
On June 26 2011 10:01 dsousa wrote:
On June 26 2011 09:54 zidaneshead wrote:
On June 26 2011 09:46 tokicheese wrote:
I think he is just an epic troll. I played with people online who would keep pretty much the exact same persona going for hours to troll people and then would switch it off and be totally cool to talk too. If someone acted like that in real life I doubt he would not be forced to seek help in Canadian high schools.


Uh no, this isn't trolling. This lasted 6 fucking hours.


Hence.. EPIC trolling :D


Troll, epic troll, or just some messed up megalomaniac that play SC2.

Does it matter?

Are you not entertained? ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED!!!!!!

At least CombatEx isn't hiding the fact that he's an asshole. He's not undercutting and backstabbing.... he's open and honest about how he feels.

The fact that people can't handle that he LOVE HIMSELF.... is their problem, not his.

I admire anyone that's not trying to be like other people.

CombatEx, for better or worse, at least fits that bill.



Just because he's honest and not ashamed of who he is doesn't mean he's not a fucking asshole. If an asshole is honest about being an asshole, he's still an asshole.


True... and plenty of your mannered SC2 heros are really assholes..... just putting on a nice mannered show for you...enjoy.

My point is.. you can't judge these people like you know them.. .they are characters... and CombatEx is a good character.

Its all a show... its showbiz!


I don't think he's a good character. I think he's a fucking asshole. And I judge people based on their actions. I saw Combat-Ex commit shitty actions that, in my opinion, makes him an asshole. Why can I not judge him when I've seen him be an asshole for YEARS? It goes back to Brood War, dude.


Of course you can judge him however you like. Just as he can ACT however he likes. No one has to like it.


The world would be a slightly better place if he stopped stream cheating and griefing people on the ladder while smack talking to them. People are trying to have fun in SC2, and then he shows up and ruins it. Don't tell me he can do whatever he wants. People shouldn't be assholes. People should be good to each other and not do things to others that they wouldn't want to have done to them. Combat-ex is a selfish person who does just that. So no, its not ok to act however he likes.
If it's stupid but it works, then it's not stupid* (*Or: You are stupid for losing to it, and gotta git gud)
NoDice
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada33 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-26 01:17:55
June 26 2011 01:13 GMT
#2093
What a coincidence. When Destiny pulled up Combats wrestling stats it said he was representing Meadowvale HS. That school's literally 5 minutes from my house. If what he says is true about him being a personal trainer, I shouldn't have a problem finding him over at the local Premier Fitness gym over at Meadowvale town center. I've been a member of that gym for the last few months... I wonder if I've ever run into the guy without knowing lol. I might even scope out the Goodlife just for the lulz. Its gotta be one of the two provided he's not at his dorm atm.
EggYsc2
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
620 Posts
June 26 2011 01:17 GMT
#2094
CombatEX is great.
He is right though
he doesnt play the game at a competitive level and still is a high ranked ladder player
But then Destiny+friends were like you played 3k games
if every game is under 5 mins on avg, then he hardly plays.
He can bang out 10-12 games in 1 hour while pros avg 2-3 per hour.
VenerableSpace
Profile Joined May 2010
United States463 Posts
June 26 2011 01:18 GMT
#2095
On June 26 2011 10:13 NoDice wrote:
What a coincidence. When Destiny pulled up Combats wrestling stats it said he was representing Meadowvale HS. That school's literally 5 minutes from my house. If what he says is true about him being a personal trainer, I shouldn't have a problem finding him over at the local Premier Fitness gym over at Meadowvale town center. I've been a member of that gym for the last few months... I wonder if I've ever run into the guy without knowing lol. I might even scope out the Goodlife just for the lulz. Its gotta be one of the two provoded he's not at his dorm atm.


Shit i lived in Erin Mills, went to the meadowville town center a TON. That goodlife was prob one of the best gyms in sauga. Id move back in a heartbeat, mississauga was awesome.
KoshkaTV
Profile Joined October 2010
United States430 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-26 01:24:56
June 26 2011 01:22 GMT
#2096
On June 26 2011 10:13 vOdToasT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2011 10:10 dsousa wrote:
On June 26 2011 10:08 vOdToasT wrote:
On June 26 2011 10:05 dsousa wrote:
On June 26 2011 10:03 vOdToasT wrote:
On June 26 2011 10:01 dsousa wrote:
On June 26 2011 09:54 zidaneshead wrote:
On June 26 2011 09:46 tokicheese wrote:
I think he is just an epic troll. I played with people online who would keep pretty much the exact same persona going for hours to troll people and then would switch it off and be totally cool to talk too. If someone acted like that in real life I doubt he would not be forced to seek help in Canadian high schools.


Uh no, this isn't trolling. This lasted 6 fucking hours.


Hence.. EPIC trolling :D


Troll, epic troll, or just some messed up megalomaniac that play SC2.

Does it matter?

Are you not entertained? ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED!!!!!!

At least CombatEx isn't hiding the fact that he's an asshole. He's not undercutting and backstabbing.... he's open and honest about how he feels.

The fact that people can't handle that he LOVE HIMSELF.... is their problem, not his.

I admire anyone that's not trying to be like other people.

CombatEx, for better or worse, at least fits that bill.



Just because he's honest and not ashamed of who he is doesn't mean he's not a fucking asshole. If an asshole is honest about being an asshole, he's still an asshole.


True... and plenty of your mannered SC2 heros are really assholes..... just putting on a nice mannered show for you...enjoy.

My point is.. you can't judge these people like you know them.. .they are characters... and CombatEx is a good character.

Its all a show... its showbiz!


I don't think he's a good character. I think he's a fucking asshole. And I judge people based on their actions. I saw Combat-Ex commit shitty actions that, in my opinion, makes him an asshole. Why can I not judge him when I've seen him be an asshole for YEARS? It goes back to Brood War, dude.


Of course you can judge him however you like. Just as he can ACT however he likes. No one has to like it.


The world would be a slightly better place if he stopped stream cheating and griefing people on the ladder while smack talking to them. People are trying to have fun in SC2, and then he shows up and ruins it. Don't tell me he can do whatever he wants. People shouldn't be assholes. People should be good to each other and not do things to others that they wouldn't want to have done to them. Combat-ex is a selfish person who does just that. So no, its not ok to act however he likes.


Those people shouldn't stream his games of SC2 without his permission! Why should they profit from his SC2 skills and he gets nothing. He is within his legal and BNet rights to do as he likes with his other running applications on his PC while he ladders in SC2.

Am I wrong? Is he breaking and rules by watching streams while he plays?


www.KoshkaTV.com
lunchforthesky
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom967 Posts
June 26 2011 01:25 GMT
#2097
To be fair Combat Ex is actually really good at this game, regardless of him cheesing/stream sniping he's GM with a 58.65% win ratio. That's a hell of a lot better than me and almost the entire SC2 community.
LoLAdriankat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4307 Posts
June 26 2011 01:26 GMT
#2098
On June 26 2011 10:22 dsousa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2011 10:13 vOdToasT wrote:
On June 26 2011 10:10 dsousa wrote:
On June 26 2011 10:08 vOdToasT wrote:
On June 26 2011 10:05 dsousa wrote:
On June 26 2011 10:03 vOdToasT wrote:
On June 26 2011 10:01 dsousa wrote:
On June 26 2011 09:54 zidaneshead wrote:
On June 26 2011 09:46 tokicheese wrote:
I think he is just an epic troll. I played with people online who would keep pretty much the exact same persona going for hours to troll people and then would switch it off and be totally cool to talk too. If someone acted like that in real life I doubt he would not be forced to seek help in Canadian high schools.


Uh no, this isn't trolling. This lasted 6 fucking hours.


Hence.. EPIC trolling :D


Troll, epic troll, or just some messed up megalomaniac that play SC2.

Does it matter?

Are you not entertained? ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED!!!!!!

At least CombatEx isn't hiding the fact that he's an asshole. He's not undercutting and backstabbing.... he's open and honest about how he feels.

The fact that people can't handle that he LOVE HIMSELF.... is their problem, not his.

I admire anyone that's not trying to be like other people.

CombatEx, for better or worse, at least fits that bill.



Just because he's honest and not ashamed of who he is doesn't mean he's not a fucking asshole. If an asshole is honest about being an asshole, he's still an asshole.


True... and plenty of your mannered SC2 heros are really assholes..... just putting on a nice mannered show for you...enjoy.

My point is.. you can't judge these people like you know them.. .they are characters... and CombatEx is a good character.

Its all a show... its showbiz!


I don't think he's a good character. I think he's a fucking asshole. And I judge people based on their actions. I saw Combat-Ex commit shitty actions that, in my opinion, makes him an asshole. Why can I not judge him when I've seen him be an asshole for YEARS? It goes back to Brood War, dude.


Of course you can judge him however you like. Just as he can ACT however he likes. No one has to like it.


The world would be a slightly better place if he stopped stream cheating and griefing people on the ladder while smack talking to them. People are trying to have fun in SC2, and then he shows up and ruins it. Don't tell me he can do whatever he wants. People shouldn't be assholes. People should be good to each other and not do things to others that they wouldn't want to have done to them. Combat-ex is a selfish person who does just that. So no, its not ok to act however he likes.


Those people shouldn't stream his games of SC2 without his permission! Why should they profit from his SC2 skills and he gets nothing. He is within his legal and BNet rights to do as he likes with his other running applications on his PC while he ladders in SC2.

Am I wrong? Is he breaking and rules by watching streams while he plays?



It's not against the law to buy an HDTV with pennies but you'd still be an asshole if you do it.
wxwx
Profile Joined May 2010
527 Posts
June 26 2011 01:26 GMT
#2099
If he is really mentally ill he needs attention but not this sort of attention. I believe all this hate might be harmful
NoDice
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada33 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-26 01:29:15
June 26 2011 01:27 GMT
#2100
On June 26 2011 10:18 VenerableSpace wrote:
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On June 26 2011 10:13 NoDice wrote:
What a coincidence. When Destiny pulled up Combats wrestling stats it said he was representing Meadowvale HS. That school's literally 5 minutes from my house. If what he says is true about him being a personal trainer, I shouldn't have a problem finding him over at the local Premier Fitness gym over at Meadowvale town center. I've been a member of that gym for the last few months... I wonder if I've ever run into the guy without knowing lol. I might even scope out the Goodlife just for the lulz. Its gotta be one of the two provoded he's not at his dorm atm.


Shit i lived in Erin Mills, went to the meadowville town center a TON. That goodlife was prob one of the best gyms in sauga. Id move back in a heartbeat, mississauga was awesome.


Lol small world isn't it? Kind of excited to hit up the gym now knowing I might run into one of the most infamous characters of the SC2 community. I'll be sure to get a cell phone cam quality interview out of him if I do.
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