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Something is up with league changes, but we don't know what specifically is the root cause. Blizzard is aware of the issue and are testing a hotfix. -- Excal_Z 6/15
This does not mean that there is a global ladder lock!! There is some bug affecting some players but it is not universal. -- Excal_Z 6/16
Might be fixed. Some of the affected players were promoted. Need more data. -- Excal_Z 6/17
SCFlavor
Profile Joined February 2011
United States82 Posts
June 18 2011 00:06 GMT
#261
Yea its true there is was 2 spots open for GM yesterday and now there is one spot open. Don't be discouraged because it all depends on MMR anyways. As long as your good enough to be in that league keep your MMR high and eventually you will be promoted.
Proud manager of StyleCraft, a top masters clan in NA.
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-18 02:27:34
June 18 2011 00:14 GMT
#262
Kinda funny i have been mass gaming 2x2 RT the last two days ( like 80 games ) and i was so pissed because i couldn't get into masters.

I went to 1669 diamond ( high ) and still couldn't get promoted. I got matched with some mid/high masters or rising diamond / with good win ratio.
So i tried to mass game even with my bonus pool cleared but i couldn't get promoted.

http://www.sc2ranks.com/ranks/all/diamond/2R
Lost some points today but still top 5 world diamond 2x2 RT =/

Even if my win ratio is only 55% i still feel there is something weird going on.

Or maybe i'm just not as good than all the iddle masters with less than 5 games this season :3
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
DennyR
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany379 Posts
June 18 2011 00:17 GMT
#263
Iam top 100 plat, playing mid masters and dont get promoted. I even lost a few games on purpose to... well lose a few games and see if I get promoted but Iam still plat
Philip2110
Profile Joined April 2010
Scotland798 Posts
June 18 2011 00:57 GMT
#264
I was promoted to masters in 2v2 earlier today (EU). Not sure if they have a different system for 1v1 and team games but its not locked in EU if this isnt the case
Master Sc2 - Diamond LoL - Eu W
iAmJeffReY
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4262 Posts
June 18 2011 00:57 GMT
#265
I got my friend from 1200 diamond to now 1650 diamond going 20-2 vs 1100-1400 masters players. ANd yet still diamond =(

I can't wait until hes promoted. He'll have a baller ass record, and be at like 1.1k after promotion lol
Unbiased biased terran abuser Jeffrey. Sorry for the rage, friend!
Eknoid4
Profile Joined October 2010
United States902 Posts
June 18 2011 01:08 GMT
#266
On June 18 2011 09:17 DennyR wrote:
Iam top 100 plat, playing mid masters and dont get promoted. I even lost a few games on purpose to... well lose a few games and see if I get promoted but Iam still plat

read everything Excalibur_Z has said.
If you're mad that someone else is brazenly trumpeting their beliefs with ignorance, perhaps you should be mad that you are doing it too.
Not_That
Profile Joined April 2011
287 Posts
June 18 2011 02:52 GMT
#267
On June 18 2011 06:03 Excalibur_Z wrote:
And when I say "people affected by the issue" I mean people like this http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/642473/1/Brolettuce/ladder/45622#current-rank. This guy has 1056 adjusted points and he's in Gold league, and based on what we understand about the ladder, he should have been promoted long ago because his MMR is so high that a promotion should have prevented him from getting this many points.


I am curious where did you get that 1056 adjusted points figure for a Gold league player. After searching, I've only been able to come up with the following:

Master: -150
Diamond S-Rank: 0
Diamond A-Rank: +63
Diamond B-Rank: +126
Diamond C-Rank: +189
Diamond D-Rank: +252
Diamond E-Rank: +315
Diamond F-Rank: +378

If the points modifier for leagues below Diamond are known I am very much interested in seeing them, even if how many division tiers per league in plat / gold / silver is still unknown. If you can direct me in the right direction it will be much appreciated.

Now that I think about it, did you get the adjusted points figure from seeing that player's matches history, seeing which opponents in master league he received / lost 12 points for winning / losing to, and deduced his adjusted points from that? If so, this means this ladder lock is actually a golden opportunity. Having some players in lower leagues having master league MMR means we could get a pretty good idea of the adjusted points for the bronze / silver / gold / plat leagues.

I hope this isn't seen as off topic, I would have pm'd this to Exalibur_Z but I imagine more people are interested and for this reason making a post is probably best.
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12248 Posts
June 18 2011 03:14 GMT
#268
On June 18 2011 11:52 Not_That wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 06:03 Excalibur_Z wrote:
And when I say "people affected by the issue" I mean people like this http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/642473/1/Brolettuce/ladder/45622#current-rank. This guy has 1056 adjusted points and he's in Gold league, and based on what we understand about the ladder, he should have been promoted long ago because his MMR is so high that a promotion should have prevented him from getting this many points.


I am curious where did you get that 1056 adjusted points figure for a Gold league player. After searching, I've only been able to come up with the following:

Master: -150
Diamond S-Rank: 0
Diamond A-Rank: +63
Diamond B-Rank: +126
Diamond C-Rank: +189
Diamond D-Rank: +252
Diamond E-Rank: +315
Diamond F-Rank: +378

If the points modifier for leagues below Diamond are known I am very much interested in seeing them, even if how many division tiers per league in plat / gold / silver is still unknown. If you can direct me in the right direction it will be much appreciated.

Now that I think about it, did you get the adjusted points figure from seeing that player's matches history, seeing which opponents in master league he received / lost 12 points for winning / losing to, and deduced his adjusted points from that? If so, this means this ladder lock is actually a golden opportunity. Having some players in lower leagues having master league MMR means we could get a pretty good idea of the adjusted points for the bronze / silver / gold / plat leagues.

I hope this isn't seen as off topic, I would have pm'd this to Exalibur_Z but I imagine more people are interested and for this reason making a post is probably best.


I'm not saying that's what his division offset is, I'm saying that's how many adjusted points that guy has. He has 2063 points and 29 bonus pool. Checking this guy http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/519834/1/Feliche/ladder/45622#current-rank who has 0 wins (therefore no bonus pool spent), he has 1036 bonus pool, meaning that's the current max. 2063 + 29 - 1036 = 1056 adjusted points.
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longtang
Profile Joined February 2011
United States73 Posts
June 18 2011 04:16 GMT
#269
I have an extremely impressive record:

I am a super diamond. I am an extreme diamond

Once the bug is fixed, I will slowly become master!

Fear Me!


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Kill all Protoss. Make them Die. Long Live Terran. Tos is a despicable race b/c they R sneaky & underhanded; Their scouts dont' scout; they Just hide & make pylons
TylerThaCreator
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States906 Posts
June 18 2011 04:20 GMT
#270
This bug has screwed me out of so many ladder points (facing plats/diamonds that should've been promoted long ago making me slightly favored :[)
aka SethN
coreofsoul
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1 Post
June 18 2011 04:24 GMT
#271
Fixed for me at least. Was having the same problem as u guys. Played mid-top ranked masters for the past 60 games with no promote from #1 diamond. However, just logged in, played a game, and was promoted instantly. GL to everyone who was having this issue.
DavidLindley
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States84 Posts
June 18 2011 04:30 GMT
#272
I was ranked high gold playing only top plats plus some diamonds and just got promoted to platinum tonight and my friend went from plat to diamond, it appears they're solving the problems
DavidLindley
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States84 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-18 04:35:17
June 18 2011 04:35 GMT
#273
Edit: Double post - sorry!! <3
Joysick
Profile Joined January 2011
United States57 Posts
June 18 2011 04:36 GMT
#274
well i know blizzard has been throwin me aorund the ladder, playing everyone from bronze to platinum to placement matches.
"In peace, sons bury their fathers, but in war, fathers bury their sons"
Munk-E
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States672 Posts
June 18 2011 04:38 GMT
#275
I have a question. I'm mid-diamond, and about a week ago, I went on a losing streak. Now I've been demoted from diamond to platinum before (3 times if you can believe that!) , and I figured out that to not be demoted, you don't play for a week or so and then ride your bonus pool to a reasonable position.

After about 10 days, I got back on and laddered, I played 3 games in a row all against people who were slightly favored. I thought this was great, as they wouldn't demote me for losing to them, and winning brings my MMR up high! So, I convincingly crush all 3, thinking that i'm just awesome. After defeating them, I check their profile to see that they were all LOW platinum players! (one of them had 80 points!)

My question is this: Is my MMR so bad that these people had a higher one than me, and it's a miracle that i'm still in diamond, or is it this glitches fault?
You recognise me because of my signature!
Not_That
Profile Joined April 2011
287 Posts
June 18 2011 04:51 GMT
#276
On June 18 2011 13:20 TylerThaCreator wrote:
This bug has screwed me out of so many ladder points (facing plats/diamonds that should've been promoted long ago making me slightly favored :[)


The lock hasn't affected your points at all. You being favoured is based off of your points, and your opponent's MMR. Since neither of these is affected by the lock, your points remain unaffected.


On June 18 2011 13:38 Munk-E wrote:
I have a question. I'm mid-diamond, and about a week ago, I went on a losing streak. Now I've been demoted from diamond to platinum before (3 times if you can believe that!) , and I figured out that to not be demoted, you don't play for a week or so and then ride your bonus pool to a reasonable position.

After about 10 days, I got back on and laddered, I played 3 games in a row all against people who were slightly favored. I thought this was great, as they wouldn't demote me for losing to them, and winning brings my MMR up high! So, I convincingly crush all 3, thinking that i'm just awesome. After defeating them, I check their profile to see that they were all LOW platinum players! (one of them had 80 points!)

My question is this: Is my MMR so bad that these people had a higher one than me, and it's a miracle that i'm still in diamond, or is it this glitches fault?


Your bonus pool has nothing to do with you not getting demoted. For all intent and purposes, bonus pool and the points it gives you are dust that Blizzard throws at your eyes. Always add the bonus pool of your opponents to their current points to get a more accurate representation of their true ladder standing. Having done that, if you're mostly playing platinum players (especially if they're lower ranked platinum players) then it is likely you will be demoted eventually.
Penecks
Profile Joined August 2010
United States600 Posts
June 18 2011 05:45 GMT
#277
My smurf was just promoted after beating a top 8 masters guy... I wasn't doing particularly well or anything so maybe it is fixed now for some people at least.
straight poppin
DrivE
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States2554 Posts
June 18 2011 05:56 GMT
#278
lol @ drewbie
he's like at 1.6K in plat
while rank 2 is at 155 points
LUCK IS NO EXCUSE
SDream
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Brazil896 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-18 06:27:30
June 18 2011 06:24 GMT
#279
On June 18 2011 14:45 Penecks wrote:
My smurf was just promoted after beating a top 8 masters guy... I wasn't doing particularly well or anything so maybe it is fixed now for some people at least.


The number of players reporting a promotion here is indeed pretty high, but it's difficult to be sure if it has been fixed with only 1 day of data, as promotions were occurring in this period (Jun 10-17).

I'll keep an eye at diamond and platinum leagues on LA region this weekend, this should confirm things, as only 1 person seems to have been promoted in the last 7 days. So anything higher than 2 players being promoted will basicly confirm that a hotfix (at least a temporary one) was deployed or not.

We can also keep an eye in these guys that should obviously be promoted in their next winning game (1x1):

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Platinum:

http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2166993/1/eXelonWelmu/ (he might not have played after hotfix)

http://kr.battle.net/sc2/ko/profile/1962219/1/토너먼트백십일/ (promoted to diamond)

Gold:

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/642473/1/Brolettuce/ (has not played 1x1 yet (after Jun/17th)

http://www.battlenet.com.cn/sc2/zh/profile/274839/1/KakuL/ (this one has been promoted already, he had 1923 points in gold according to sc2ranks)

Silver:

http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2010074/1/WhistlerR/

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/32051/2/MUDO/ (promoted to diamond, he was at silver with 1000 or more adjusted points)

http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2155268/1/zhenzhen/ (has not played yet)

http://tw.battle.net/sc2/zh/profile/202810/2/NwToT/ (promoted to gold)

http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/813583/1/krølltopp/ (has played, has won, but no promotion, even though he has 1000+ adjusted points)

http://kr.battle.net/sc2/ko/profile/3216313/1/BRoad/ (hasn't played yet)

http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2068798/1/DocFoster/ (hasn't played yet)

http://www.battlenet.com.cn/sc2/zh/profile/836276/1/Lightman/ (hasn't played yet)

http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/545417/1/quantik/ (Idk)

http://www.battlenet.com.cn/sc2/zh/profile/406284/1/冷血天使/ (Idk)


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It seems that it has been hotfixed in someway, but I can't confirm anything.

Go play guys, I need more data.
Jampackedeon
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2053 Posts
June 18 2011 06:27 GMT
#280
No wonder I could never graduate to Masters on my new EU account. Oy.
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