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Something is up with league changes, but we don't know what specifically is the root cause. Blizzard is aware of the issue and are testing a hotfix. -- Excal_Z 6/15
This does not mean that there is a global ladder lock!! There is some bug affecting some players but it is not universal. -- Excal_Z 6/16
Might be fixed. Some of the affected players were promoted. Need more data. -- Excal_Z 6/17 |
On June 19 2011 01:31 SDream wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2011 01:22 Billd wrote:On June 19 2011 01:03 SDream wrote:
Just confirming, a hotfix has indeed been deployed yesterday.
GL HF! Yeah this is one of those things that you can't say without providing a link or something along those lines  I hope you're right/not trolling though! People don't even understand the system, they want a blue post. There is no blue post, so proving will take a paper enough of text. Believe it in the same way you believed they were bugged. What were the prove of them being bugged again?
On June 16 2011 06:13 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Something is up with the ladder, they've identified an issue and are testing a hotfix.
We don't know exactly what the issue is. It could be a partial lock, it could be some bugged players, it could be something not updating properly, it could be a side effect from the last fix.
Seems proof enough for me if he has contact like he says he does.
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Has it been applied to all servers??? I'm on SEA server and I've seen no promotion. My last game was against a top 150 GM, which I lost to bust still he was only slightly favoured. This shouldn't be happening if I'm meant to still be in diamond. My WR for the past 20 games vs high diamonds (probably people facing the promotion bug too) /masters is at least 70%.
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People don't even understand the system, they want a blue post. There is no blue post, so proving will take a paper enough of text.
Believe it in the same way you believed they were bugged. What were the proof of them being bugged again?
Sorry I don't understand parts of your response, but by proof I meant something like what Excal was able to offer us or 15 or so pages of people reporting similiar stories (that was my proof for them being bugged). Not just one sentence stating that they're fixed.
Edit: Also, does the link to your profile indicate that you were promoted to diamond? I'm not sure what that was meant to accomplish.
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No, it looks like it's probably fixed. Yesterday when I looked at the Gold rankings in SC2Ranks, there were a couple of players above 2000 and a good handful about 1600. Now, the only people who are above 1600 are those who haven't played a game since 6/16. The ones that have were promoted. Seems like it's fixed to me.
SDream understands the system and knows about what happens on the LA server too, and he keeps a lot closer tabs on LA than I do. If he's noticing promotions where none existed in the past week, that's more evidence to support that it's fixed.
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Played my last game 2h ago (on NA), still not promoted from platinum league. Haven't faced a platinum player in about 40 games. Playing against some diamonds but mostly masters. "Teams even" before the game and I'm keeping myself well above a 50% win-rate.
45/27 overall if that matters. Could be me not understanding the system, but it seems weird. I'm Masters on EU, so my skill-level shouldn't be the problem 
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I think its still bugged, least on EU.. I played another 5 games this morning; im in platinum (new account under 30 games, 90% rec) and all 5 games were vs 950-1400 masters.. won 4 of them and still no promotion. probably 10 games or so now vs 800+ masters with being stuck in platinum
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same here, still no plat after keeping beating them high plat players as rank 1 gold and I think this has been going on for the past 35+ games
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Im 1850 platinum have played Masters steady for 30+ games.
Had a 13-2 winning streak against Masters yesterday.
Got a few minutes to log on today after hearing it was fixed and cheesed 4 games in a row, 4 because the first 3 games it failed. (in hindsight i should have just played 1 legit game and won).
No promotion, so I played one more, won again, (all games against 1100+ masters btw, and still no promotion. Still bugged for me.
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Good news guys after some games i just got promoted from 1 silver to Gold rank 5 ( i didn't know you take the points with you)
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On June 19 2011 04:46 Lucyans wrote:
Good news guys after some games i just got promoted from 1 silver to Gold rank 5 ( i didn't know you take the points with you)
You don't. You carry over your used bonus pool + 73 points between leagues.
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playing vs high masters now, no promotion from diamond after 30 or so games of me winning a bit more than 50%
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Currently:
71 games
67% win rate, 48-23 against 1000-1700 Masters (Average ~1300 masters) with an average of 14 games a day.
Right now im 1444 diamond, wont promote me = (
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currently like #3 EU and #10 world 2v2 platinum team. and although that is pretty cool id rather just get put into master/diamond going on how were are consistently going against master teams and generally winning.
Played a 2v2 just now beat a masters still no promo, (EU) so i imagine its still bugged.
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On June 19 2011 05:20 FenneK wrote:
playing vs high masters now, no promotion from diamond after 30 or so games of me winning a bit more than 50%
Guys, keep in mind that the bonus pool is already at 1050. Anyone with 1100 points isn't "high" anything, it's just an active player and most likely low masters/diamond/whatever.
Also, read the ExcaliburZ guide to the ladder system:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=195273
Promotions won't occur as often as most people want it, but that is by default. If you are diamond and facing masters, that doesn't mean a bug.
I think this thread should be closed now, even if the leagues aren't 100% "ok", it's something we can't prove. You shouldn't ask for proof of it being hotfixed, but you should ask for proof of it being bugged.
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On June 19 2011 05:41 SDream wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2011 05:20 FenneK wrote:
playing vs high masters now, no promotion from diamond after 30 or so games of me winning a bit more than 50% Guys, keep in mind that the bonus pool is already at 1050. Anyone with 1100 points isn't "high" anything, it's just an active player and most likely low masters/diamond/whatever. Also, read the ExcaliburZ guide to the ladder system: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=195273Promotions won't occur as often as most people want it, but that is by default. If you are diamond and facing masters, that doesn't mean a bug. I think this thread should be closed now, even if the leagues aren't 100% "ok", it's something we can't prove. You shouldn't ask for proof of it being hotfixed, but you should ask for proof of it being bugged.
"Might be fixed. Some of the affected players were promoted. Need more data. -- Excal_Z 6/17"
Sounds dumb closing the thread.
and im at 1350 + 300 pool
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I got promoted to masters 3v3 yesterday, so I think it should be fixed.
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I've read the ladder system guide so many times and it would seem to me that being slightly favored against mid-high level masters players for over 50 games would say your MMR is in the confidence level of getting promoted to masters. There are people that got promoted to masters and have a horribly negative score against high diamond players, but they still got promoted.
The fact that I'm able to compete at a high masters level and am somehow not balancing out in at least a low masters confidence level makes no sense. I might understand it if GM was actually a regular league above masters, but it isn't. It's not like my MMR can cross over into GM level and when I do get promoted to Masters, get promoted to GM shortly after, there is nothing after Masters until my MMR just so happens to be high enough the day someone gets kicked out of top 200 for high bonus pool.
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Yesterday I was playing against Plats/Diamonds and won with a rate of like 85-90% today, Im playing against Plat/Diamonds losing... 10% winning rate... after 7 losses, and 1 win. Got promoted to Platinum.. something is going on!
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some more wierd ladder matchups. in 2v2 my team is rank 3 bronze. Last night we were matched up against a masters/silver team, they were slighlty favored. I'm not sure if we should be promoted or what but it seems strange we can be even or slightly favored against silver and gold teams. I just wish they had an easier system of promotion and weren't spending so much time and resources on a hidden magical ladder formula.
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Diamond newly promoted to Masters in EU (1v1), so it worked for me.
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