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Something is up with league changes, but we don't know what specifically is the root cause. Blizzard is aware of the issue and are testing a hotfix. -- Excal_Z 6/15
This does not mean that there is a global ladder lock!! There is some bug affecting some players but it is not universal. -- Excal_Z 6/16
Might be fixed. Some of the affected players were promoted. Need more data. -- Excal_Z 6/17
mello.tron
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden7 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-17 18:20:22
June 17 2011 18:19 GMT
#241
On June 18 2011 03:14 starcraft911 wrote:
The reason is because you're continually imporving. In order to get promoted your ladder needs to equalibriate meaning you need to stop winning so many games if you want to get promoted to diamond. If you want to get promoted to masters keep winning until you get to masters.

This isn't true. Please read the thread before posting.

On June 16 2011 06:13 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2011 06:10 Lore-Fighting wrote:
You need to start losing to get promoted. It doesn't where to place you.


No, stop saying this. That hasn't been true for like 6 months.

Something is up with the ladder, they've identified an issue and are testing a hotfix.

We don't know exactly what the issue is. It could be a partial lock, it could be some bugged players, it could be something not updating properly, it could be a side effect from the last fix.

Also, given that MMR works on a moving average, it should be obvious that you will get promoted even if you don't lose, since your moving average will eventually cross the league threshold if you keep winning (although you might, for example, reach masters level by the time your moving average hits diamond).
WarpMePlz
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom76 Posts
June 17 2011 18:54 GMT
#242
Blizzard has acknowledged that there is a bug on SOME leagues which will not allow promotion.

Will people please read thing at the top of the page which explains this, and stop saying its because your MMR needs to stabilize because you are wrong.
Boraz
Profile Joined February 2011
United States361 Posts
June 17 2011 19:09 GMT
#243
When will it be fixed though. OMFG
Waarez
Profile Joined February 2011
Belgium73 Posts
June 17 2011 20:45 GMT
#244
Hoping for a fast fix! Thanks
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12240 Posts
June 17 2011 20:52 GMT
#245
Well I followed up, they're not gonna be able to give me any updates on the bug. Chances are people will figure out when it gets fixed because people we know who are affected by the issue will start getting promoted :>
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shadowboxer
Profile Joined November 2010
United States224 Posts
June 17 2011 20:55 GMT
#246
On June 18 2011 05:52 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Well I followed up, they're not gonna be able to give me any updates on the bug. Chances are people will figure out when it gets fixed because people we know who are affected by the issue will start getting promoted :>


Well, thanks for trying at least. I guess I'll be clueless and keep wasting my time laddering until promo. -.-
"Hear that? That's God laughing at your plans."
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12240 Posts
June 17 2011 21:03 GMT
#247
And when I say "people affected by the issue" I mean people like this http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/642473/1/Brolettuce/ladder/45622#current-rank. This guy has 1056 adjusted points and he's in Gold league, and based on what we understand about the ladder, he should have been promoted long ago because his MMR is so high that a promotion should have prevented him from getting this many points.

I don't want this thread to be full of people saying "why am I not promoted, I'm plat and I've faced diamonds for a long time blah blah" because it's understood that Diamond promotions take longer, and various other examples of people generally not understanding the system. We don't know how widespread the problem is, but when people like the guy I linked get promoted, we'll know it's fixed.
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Boraz
Profile Joined February 2011
United States361 Posts
June 17 2011 21:11 GMT
#248
Diamond promotions take longer? You, sir, are an idiot. My friend got promoted to plat one day, and like 3 days later got promoted to diamond. GG sir.

User was temp banned for this post.
Penecks
Profile Joined August 2010
United States600 Posts
June 17 2011 21:14 GMT
#249
On June 18 2011 06:11 Boraz wrote:
Diamond promotions take longer? You, sir, are an idiot. My friend got promoted to plat one day, and like 3 days later got promoted to diamond. GG sir.

What he means is, there are always people whining about not being promoted because they fought "a few diamond players" and think they instantly should be in diamond. Though this bug is becoming incredibly silly, I faced a GM player on my smurf yesterday and the account is still in diamond...
straight poppin
starcraft911
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Korea (South)1263 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-17 21:20:07
June 17 2011 21:17 GMT
#250
On June 18 2011 06:11 Boraz wrote:
Diamond promotions take longer? You, sir, are an idiot. My friend got promoted to plat one day, and like 3 days later got promoted to diamond. GG sir.


I agree with what you said, except for the part where you were unnecessarily rude for no reason.

On June 18 2011 06:14 Penecks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 06:11 Boraz wrote:
Diamond promotions take longer? You, sir, are an idiot. My friend got promoted to plat one day, and like 3 days later got promoted to diamond. GG sir.

What he means is, there are always people whining about not being promoted because they fought "a few diamond players" and think they instantly should be in diamond. Though this bug is becoming incredibly silly, I faced a GM player on my smurf yesterday and the account is still in diamond...


What was the GM players name? Some GM players have very low MMR.
Boraz
Profile Joined February 2011
United States361 Posts
June 17 2011 21:20 GMT
#251
Yeah I faced a master, and I'm plat.
Starcraft I was rude because people say crap like they know what they're talking about and they don't. Don't post wrong info.
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12240 Posts
June 17 2011 21:20 GMT
#252
On June 18 2011 06:11 Boraz wrote:
Diamond promotions take longer? You, sir, are an idiot. My friend got promoted to plat one day, and like 3 days later got promoted to diamond. GG sir.


The time is irrelevant. Diamond covers a larger skill range than Gold, Silver, or Plat, so it takes longer to move into it. Read the ladder guide!
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Drteeth
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Great Britain415 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-17 21:22:14
June 17 2011 21:21 GMT
#253
On June 18 2011 06:17 starcraft911 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 06:11 Boraz wrote:
Diamond promotions take longer? You, sir, are an idiot. My friend got promoted to plat one day, and like 3 days later got promoted to diamond. GG sir.


I agree with what you said, except for the part where you were unnecessarily rude for no reason.


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On June 18 2011 06:14 Penecks wrote:
On June 18 2011 06:11 Boraz wrote:
Diamond promotions take longer? You, sir, are an idiot. My friend got promoted to plat one day, and like 3 days later got promoted to diamond. GG sir.

What he means is, there are always people whining about not being promoted because they fought "a few diamond players" and think they instantly should be in diamond. Though this bug is becoming incredibly silly, I faced a GM player on my smurf yesterday and the account is still in diamond...


What was the GM players name? Some GM players have very low MMR.



Nice one, well said.

Nice cheese ....GG!
-Strider-
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico1605 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-17 21:26:38
June 17 2011 21:25 GMT
#254
On June 18 2011 06:11 Boraz wrote:
Diamond promotions take longer? You, sir, are an idiot. My friend got promoted to plat one day, and like 3 days later got promoted to diamond. GG sir.

it took longer, LOL

I want to get promoted! I'm the number 2 silver in the whole world ]

http://sc2ranks.com/ranks/all/silver
What is up? IM NESTEAAAA!
Penecks
Profile Joined August 2010
United States600 Posts
June 17 2011 21:30 GMT
#255
On June 18 2011 06:17 starcraft911 wrote:
What was the GM players name? Some GM players have very low MMR.

The player was AmandilGMMA, currently rank 180.
straight poppin
QTIP.
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2113 Posts
June 17 2011 21:33 GMT
#256
On June 18 2011 06:25 -Strider- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 06:11 Boraz wrote:
Diamond promotions take longer? You, sir, are an idiot. My friend got promoted to plat one day, and like 3 days later got promoted to diamond. GG sir.

it took longer, LOL

I want to get promoted! I'm the number 2 silver in the whole world ]

http://sc2ranks.com/ranks/all/silver


lol go strider!
"Trash Micro but Win. Its Marin." - Min Chul
auTo.ckc
Profile Joined October 2010
67 Posts
June 17 2011 23:39 GMT
#257
Would be nice if blizzard released a mass press statement when something like this happens. maybe something like to everyone's email or on the main news board of sc2?
"sorry for the inconvenience, but whatever you do for the next couple of days won't matter as much"

Obviously not that stupid, and obviously their actions matter. I was just making up an example. Still they should do it.
LordOfDabu
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
United States394 Posts
June 17 2011 23:46 GMT
#258
Do that and people will be complaining later on that there's a problem with promotions when there isn't.

I agree that Blizzard needs more transparency, but I don't think that's the way to handle it.

Best way would be to just make mmr public imo.
Think fast. Click faster.
jiabung
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States720 Posts
June 17 2011 23:53 GMT
#259
So has anyone actually been promoted AFTER 6/15? I feel like this is a global problem and not only affecting some leagues like Blizzard claims.
SDream
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Brazil896 Posts
June 18 2011 00:01 GMT
#260
On June 18 2011 08:53 jiabung wrote:
So has anyone actually been promoted AFTER 6/15? I feel like this is a global problem and not only affecting some leagues like Blizzard claims.


Yes, this guy was promoted at 6/17:

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/32051/2/MUDO/ladder/47845#current-rank

That is today actually
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