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Blasts
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands99 Posts
May 17 2011 09:23 GMT
#41
This is lame. If you gotta say something about somebody, say it in their face. Don't throw your rant on the Internet like this.
My worst MU is me vs my cat. I always try to 2 rax him, but he 4 claws me :(
TheBJ
Profile Joined March 2010
Bulgaria906 Posts
May 17 2011 09:24 GMT
#42
On May 17 2011 18:04 Jiddra wrote:
The slop3 show, on the swedish esport site rakaka.se, attacks Naniwa in the latest episode. Slop3 is mighty angry.

Is Naniwas bad manner back in full force? What does Dignitas say about this?

Perhaps Slop3 is a counter strike drama queen and doesn't know what he is talking about?

Translation of slop3s rant
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There is an idiot out there, an idiot! His name is, wait for it, Naniwa.

Wo wo wo, let us put this in perspective. Is Naniwa a good SC2 player? Obviously, he can perform!

I have seen that he can perform, but the question is if you can behave any way you want just because of that?

To a certain degree, yes, I even like if you have a bit of an attitude and can talk back. But I think that, and I might be wrong, that Naniwa has gone way to far this time and needs a reality check and should be banned from further tournament play because of the way he is behaving.

I haven’t had that much contact with Naniwa, I haven’t meet him IRL, I have only seen what happened behind the scenes at the “The road to Korea” tournament (Hosted by rakaka.se & Logitech).
I ask myself what is so wrong with him, what is so screwed up in his head, what is wrong with him mentally, that makes him have such a fucking bad attitude about everything!

I don’t think he’s got such a big head that he thinks it’s ok to behave the way he does, to say exactly whatever he wants, without it having any consequences. Has he had these kind of problems before, yes, he have been kicked from teams, been banned from LANs, been in fights, it I common knowledge that he behaves like a fucking idiot.
Ask yourself, why doesn’t Naniwa live with TLO and the gang (In the pro house)? Is it because he is such a close friend or what?
He certainly lives up to expectations, He can fucking play for sure.

(cut)

In the TSL finals he screamed to the caster that he should leave the game because of lag. (GET OUT CHILL) Yea, I think that they fly both of you swedes to New York so you can ask the caster to leave, and the games won’t be able to be aired at all! That is why they do it, so you just ask them to leave the game Naniwa!
You can also read on teamliquid, in the interview, the question “How do you have handle all this, isn’t it much with all the tournaments etc.?” And Naniwa replys that we, rakaka, weren’t flexible enough for his taste and couldn’t solve his problems in a nice and easy way.

Weren’t we flexible, Naniwa? It took us TWO weeks to play your matches; you had no time at all during that time to play. And after that you think it’s strange that we are forcing you to play the finals on the date it’s supposed to be played?? And you know what, I’m so fucking glad that you didn’t win and got the trip to Korea!
It might seem strange, that we that like conflicts and stuff react like this. But sometimes enough is enough!! (he puts it in a strange way in Swedish)
I’m not allowed to say what Naniwa said and did behind the scenes during the “Road to Korea” tournament and you might never know, but I feel that such behavior demands consequences.

You can sit out there and scream how much you want about how Naniwa can act like this because he is a good player, but if I would organize a tournament I would never, NEVER, give the guy an invite. It could be Dreamhack, TSL, GSL, I wouldn’t have him. There are so many players out there, with good attitude.
I wish that I could tell you about what level this is on, so you could understand why I have this frustration against this person (Naniwa).

Take my word for it, or don’t give a fuck!




So because they are desperate for attention and some hits you decided to give it to them , please lock this before kelly thread #2. Nobody cares about naniwa's manners but his sc2 skills , anything else is just pure drama stirring. The reason sports are so big is because of the human factor and the emotions it brings , w/o them i dont think it could be a sport at all. Not to mention the fact that every sport has its white and black horses,not to mention that in the real world sport most of them are black and ill mannered. Deal with it.
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Technique
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1542 Posts
May 17 2011 09:24 GMT
#43
Slop3 sounds like a attention whore who simply doesn't understand the pressure they where under, so of course he gonna be pissed of about the lag and simply request chill to leave (who is stupid enough to leave irc open while casting).
If you think you're good, you suck. If you think you suck, you're getting better.
discw
Profile Joined April 2010
United States122 Posts
May 17 2011 09:25 GMT
#44
Could someone explain why we should care what this guy thinks of naniwa? Because I don't get it.
Chibithor
Profile Joined April 2011
Brazil514 Posts
May 17 2011 09:26 GMT
#45
On May 17 2011 18:22 Zlasher wrote:
The blonde guy, that is Patrick Sattermon, aka Carn aka the in game leader for team fnatic's counterstrike team. He is EXTREMELY well mannered and an extremely well spoken person, I would like to believe that he is makign this video sarcastically or jokingly =\

Does anyone know what he specifically says? Because I can't imagine he would BM another professional gamer, especially since he is from the CS 1.6 community.

Watch the vid, it's not Carn ranting. Rant starts @ 11:00 or so.
Willes
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany199 Posts
May 17 2011 09:26 GMT
#46
Simply make rules how to act when a caster starts lagging in big online-tournaments, then this doesnt happen, of course naniwa s reaction was understandable, he was in the middle of a push in a 15000$ - game.
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
May 17 2011 09:27 GMT
#47
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uSnAmplified
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1029 Posts
May 17 2011 09:27 GMT
#48
People are seriously taking the chill get out ordeal way to seriously, it was all over reddit etc. naniwas actions were kind of rude but 100% justified, he was playing the last game of a B07 for 15k, i would be aggravated to.

I wont defend naniwas past and previous actions, but people seriously need thicker skin when it comes to things like that.
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Madkipz
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Norway1643 Posts
May 17 2011 09:28 GMT
#49
Well its a good thing Naniwa did not win or this would be an incredible insulting post for someone who just won a championship.

People dont just go out of their way to be difficult and im sure he has his reasons. Make some cupcakes and chill :D
"Mudkip"
Gooey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States944 Posts
May 17 2011 09:29 GMT
#50
I didn't mind the telling of chill to get out of the game, people like HuK are notorious for having exaggeratedly short fuses when it comes to spectators lagging in a match that is being broadcast.

Most people that have been following starcraft know at least, or have heard of, Naniwa being seemingly erratic from time to time with his behavior, and the risks and rewards are very well known.

On one hand, he is one of the best competitors in sc2, always showing good games and solid play, being an easy player to follow and count on to win. He has been constantly making finals of the biggest tournaments available to him, with a winning streak and record to boot that seems inhuman. The guy is a performer, simply put.

On the other hand, he has had a history of questionable behavior, and continues to have that stigma. He is definitely one to express his emotions without taking into consideration who he may be representing at times. It is good that he feels so strongly about being the best player possible, but lacks good judgement when making remarks in the public eye (or behind the scenes, for that matter).

People know what they are getting into whenever Naniwa becomes part of the equation.
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zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-17 09:31:58
May 17 2011 09:31 GMT
#51
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Greem
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
730 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-17 09:32:22
May 17 2011 09:31 GMT
#52
I don't know much about Naniwa, but i certainly didn't like they way he acted against commentator, chill in this case, who've done way more for this community and eSport then most of players out there, even players as good as Naniwa. Not that i gonna hate any player for that, but it definitely influenced my perception of Naniwa. You argue that that were final games, a lot of stress and pressure, but i think at high level the first thing you should learn is to fully control you emotions.
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legatus legionis
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands559 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-17 09:39:17
May 17 2011 09:32 GMT
#53
Isn't that cArn the captain of the cs1.6 team of fNatic? He's very manner but this is just stepping out of his zone. Edit: Ok apparently he doesn't talk, sorry bro! Kinda dodged the vid a little because I wouldn't be able to understand Swedish.

Because I've heard the GET OUT thing come up before. Most really don't care and I'll shed some light on why I think so.

In Europe, there have been the most online weekly cups. Zotac, CraftCup, Go4Sc2. These have been watched and played in a lot. Because of the nature of bnet, it happens too many people spectate, or too many different people stream the games. This leads to many disconnects, drops of people etc. It has become common practice to "scream" GET OUT. Because there are so many clowns who in the first place shouldn't even want to be spectating, rather watching the stream like everyone else. Tons of people have made themselves guilty of this. So that it happened on match point for a 8000 USD map, it's really no big deal.

The competition is most important, everything else comes behind it. That is also why I have no problems with it, it's not a personal thing or a mannerism. They are competitors striving for victory, the blood thirsty warrior of the virtual age. In every sport there are heated moments. It is nothing personal, it means no harm, it only speaks for the desire to win.

Granted there could be things I'm not be aware of. I wouldn't be able to comment on those.

Edit: I'll add in that I felt it was rediculous the Road to Korea which is a huge event was played when NaNi just got to NYC. The Road has been taken place for many weeks now and to get all the way to the end and play the finals in bad conditions is unbelievable. There is no second place, only first place and going to Korea. If this was poor planning, I'll drag Dignitas management into this. I don't know at all how it works but for things like this I feel it's the teams that should be the ones planning and helping, it's not the players job and shouldn't be done by them. Obviously I have no grounds to base this last thing on because I have no insight.
iNViCiOUZ
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany364 Posts
May 17 2011 09:34 GMT
#54
Well...

This is just kindergarden.. attack someone in public without saying anything what happend.

The "CHILL GET OUT" in TSL was not the nicest words.. But it was the Final game for winning a 15000$ tournament (not a small SWE Tournament) and Chill had not just a second lag. He lagged crazy and it was not even fun to watch!

So Slop3 should explain what happend or STFO ; )
Zeon0
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria2995 Posts
May 17 2011 09:34 GMT
#55
wtf? deciding map in a 15k first prize tournament and the player is a bit harsh to a lagging caster? srsly?
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Profile Joined October 2009
155 Posts
May 17 2011 09:35 GMT
#56
On May 17 2011 18:29 Gooey wrote:Most people that have been following starcraft know at least, or have heard of, Naniwa being seemingly erratic from time to time with his behavior, and the risks and rewards are very well known.


He is lucky that people only heard about him because of sc. His behavior during w3 times was even worse than now.
GMonster
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
686 Posts
May 17 2011 09:35 GMT
#57
i don't think anyone blamed Naniwa for wanting chill out of the game. Lag is especiallay annoying and when 15,000$ is on the line you can't really blame him.

Thats all imma say :D
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Hotaku
Profile Joined May 2011
Lithuania3 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-17 09:40:11
May 17 2011 09:39 GMT
#58
actually there was some BM from Naniwa side in NASL too...

When he didnt show up for match with Strelok and Strelok had to wait for him for few hours, while meanwhile Naniwa was laddering on Battle.net.

Edit: On the phone call, Strelok was really pissed too at him
Endymion
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States3701 Posts
May 17 2011 09:39 GMT
#59
On May 17 2011 18:18 nihlon wrote:
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On May 17 2011 18:15 Endymion wrote:
It's silly because any player in any other tournament would say the same thing if a caster lagged in a game, yet people think it's BM? ridiculous, it was like the third lag spike that he put caps on too.. Fully behind naniwa on this one.


That's why some tournaments have strict rules about posting stuff in games except gllhf and gg or asking for pause. Personally I think this would be a good idea. If there is a problem, just pause the game and solve it behind the scenes so we get spared of all this useless drama.


Well just feedback for the next TSL I guess, I'm fully in favor of kespa regulations because they cover most of these "awkward" situations.
Have you considered the MMO-Champion forum? You are just as irrational and delusional with the right portion of nostalgic populism. By the way: The old Brood War was absolutely unplayable
Rabbitmaster
Profile Joined August 2010
1357 Posts
May 17 2011 09:40 GMT
#60
Well i never take anything i read on Rakaka.se seriously. To say the least, its not the most serious news-site (more than half the articles have names miss-spelled or just plain wrong facts). But it would be kind of interessting to hear what NaNi did during the road to korea hehe.
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