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Haha. so much drama over a word. Silly silly...
I don't think that some little word should be so disturbing for a nation that enjoy watching murder and torture for fun, putting a 1/3 of the black population in jail for smoking a herb, killing people as punishment etc. They have much worst things to fix before they start thinking about other peoples toughts on the use of the english language, a language they didn't even make up themself.
James said som "nasty words" during dreamhack inv. and they had sponsors and one of the best shows for 2011, I guess we in europe is just more mature when it comes to these kind of things.
*laughing while typing*
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this is just silly lagtv got asked to do this not the other way round, did the people at nasl just not watch the content then be like UPPS IT HAS SWEARING IN IT. So silly. People are so over sensative its like every-thing offends people here.
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On April 19 2011 17:30 iNcontroL wrote:
pretty cut and dry
For some it's a big deal. For others it is not. The NASL is trying to appease the MOST people and nobody will get mad if we DON'T use the word rape but people WILL get mad if we DO use the word rape. So obviously we have a word that only had negative results for us and obviously we will do everything we can to avoid said word.
I'm mad at censorship, I feel unappeased.
No I don't, I just wanted to use the word "appease" for the first time really badly.
I am however surprised it's a big deal for some.
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On April 19 2011 17:46 pStar wrote:
Im seriously laughing my ass off.
This is an absolute joke. Whoever the people were that compalined they need to get a life and stop trying to stir up trouble and get attention.
After all, its a goddamn game, sure its a big toruney but is there really anyone watching it apart from gamers? No.
I use "rape" loads when im playing games and i see no problem whatsoever with it. "I seriously just got raped in theass by a mothership" Whats wrong with that? Nothing.
tl;dr get a life grow up
Go make a rape joke, or even use the word, around a rape victim.
Then you might realise that you are the one who needs to grow up.
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On April 19 2011 17:29 BasilPesto wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2011 17:25 Poyo wrote:On April 19 2011 16:31 travis wrote:
political correctness bullshit is what it is Agreed, the usual hypocrisy. What hypocrisy? Heh, the only thing I hate more than political correctness is being vehemently anti-PC.
Not going to get into that its a hornets nest, but the bottom line is people need a fucking dose of reality. Find some real issues to complain about rather than this bullshit.
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On April 19 2011 17:50 Jakkerr wrote:People that make drama about this are just pathetic in my eyes. You seriously have nothing better to do then to /cry about a gaming tournament that used the word 'rape'? 99% of the people crying don't actually care at all but just take every possible chance to whine about everything  yay for the internet and about tv... cmon people SC2 isn't gonna be on tv outside of Korea, there is no culture or fanbase for it and it really isn't gonna explode all of the sudden. We should be more then happy with what we have now and maybe that can grow bigger in the future, but tv? no
have YOU been a victim of a rape? According to your answer is guess not. Now imagine someone who gets raped and imagine someone who looses a SC2 game. Ignorance for the win..
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On TV and professional sports commentary I guess "rape" would be considered out of place, so indeed if you want NASL to be as professional as possible, don't say it.
But people are overblowing this way out of proportions.
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What is the upside of using the word as opposed to the downside?
What is the upside of not using the word as opposed to the downside?
Try not thinking like a 16yr old boy. You're now running a business, think logically.
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On April 19 2011 17:57 oursblanc wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2011 17:46 pStar wrote:
Im seriously laughing my ass off.
This is an absolute joke. Whoever the people were that compalined they need to get a life and stop trying to stir up trouble and get attention.
After all, its a goddamn game, sure its a big toruney but is there really anyone watching it apart from gamers? No.
I use "rape" loads when im playing games and i see no problem whatsoever with it. "I seriously just got raped in theass by a mothership" Whats wrong with that? Nothing.
tl;dr get a life grow up Go make a rape joke, or even use the word, around a rape victim. Then you might realise that you are the one who needs to grow up.
rape 1 (rp)
n.
1. The crime of forcing another person to submit to sex acts, especially sexual intercourse.
2. The act of seizing and carrying off by force; abduction.
3. Abusive or improper treatment; violation: a rape of justice.
tr.v. raped, rap·ing, rapes
1. To force (another person) to submit to sex acts, especially sexual intercourse; commit rape on.
2. To seize and carry off by force.
3. To plunder or pillage.
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On April 19 2011 17:57 oursblanc wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2011 17:46 pStar wrote:
Im seriously laughing my ass off.
This is an absolute joke. Whoever the people were that compalined they need to get a life and stop trying to stir up trouble and get attention.
After all, its a goddamn game, sure its a big toruney but is there really anyone watching it apart from gamers? No.
I use "rape" loads when im playing games and i see no problem whatsoever with it. "I seriously just got raped in theass by a mothership" Whats wrong with that? Nothing.
tl;dr get a life grow up Go make a rape joke, or even use the word, around a rape victim. Then you might realise that you are the one who needs to grow up.
Why would I do that though?
I know thats wrong and it shouldn't be done but its in a completely different context. If i just went up and said "Rape" sure that would be offensive. But im not going to and I have used it in a completely different context.
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On April 19 2011 17:50 Hurricane Sponge wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2011 16:57 Jinsho wrote:
Hey you idiots.
If you want to make esports acceptable, if you want to get sponsors, if you want SC2 to be something that can be shown on TV, you have to drop this internet lingo, ironic racism, ironic misogyny, and of course drop the word "rape" no matter how much you hate women and think they're all sluts for not looking at you during class.
I am glad they decided to apologize, and I hope the next LAGTV episode will be both funnier and cleaner.
User was temp banned for this post. This was strange to me. In a discussion where Pro-Rape people are claiming that 'words don't mean anything, they're just letters,' someone gets banned for using words like 'idiot'. There appears to be a disconnect between people who have never met a rape victim and those of us who have.
I know people that were killed in combat oversees but I don't bitch and moan when a caster makes a funny comment about a medivac full of marines getting shot down. It's just harmless humor, deal with it.
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I assume he meant Pro-rape as is in pro using the word rape in esports and not the act itself........... but you have just pointed out the whole hypocrisy and stupidity of this entire argument as you took what he said in a different context as to how he meant it, which is the entire point people are trying to make when using this word.
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Yeah, you guys are right, they should also use the N-word and slurs against gays. I mean no one takes it seriously, so wtf at their uptightness.
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On April 19 2011 17:59 Jiddra wrote:
rape 1 (rp)
n.
1. The crime of forcing another person to submit to sex acts, especially sexual intercourse.
2. The act of seizing and carrying off by force; abduction.
3. Abusive or improper treatment; violation: a rape of justice.
tr.v. raped, rap·ing, rapes
1. To force (another person) to submit to sex acts, especially sexual intercourse; commit rape on.
2. To seize and carry off by force.
3. To plunder or pillage.
This has nothing to do with my post.
On April 19 2011 18:00 pStar wrote:
Why would I do that though?
I know thats wrong and it shouldn't be done but its in a completely different context. If i just went up and said "Rape" sure that would be offensive. But im not going to and I have used it in a completely different context.
Context doesn't help a lot when the word itself can be traumatic.
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Yeah, i don't mind foul language or anything, but rape is one of those words that probably should be avoided for professionalism's sake (i've been trying to make a conscious effort of using the word less). That being said, I won't be super upset if it is used, but I will cringe a bit.
It's better for esports if we try to avoid stepping on some of the more sensitive words of our language if we want to expand our appeal  .
On April 19 2011 18:02 zeru wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2011 18:01 Spicy Pepper wrote:
Yeah, you guys are right, they should also use the N-word and slurs against gays. I mean no one takes it seriously, so wtf at their uptightness. Grow up. Rape has different meanings. Stop being such a child and being sensitive about everything.
To me, it appears as if YOU need to grow up. You have to understand that words mean different things to different people - this is more than just calling someone an idiot or a bitch. Rape is one of the worst things people can do to one another, and it can cause deep psychological problems. To some, this word carries quite a heavy meaning, and light usage of it can be hurtful and extremely offensive to them.
Plus it makes our community look like shit if we just use the word casually.
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On April 19 2011 17:59 Jiddra wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2011 17:57 oursblanc wrote:On April 19 2011 17:46 pStar wrote:
Im seriously laughing my ass off.
This is an absolute joke. Whoever the people were that compalined they need to get a life and stop trying to stir up trouble and get attention.
After all, its a goddamn game, sure its a big toruney but is there really anyone watching it apart from gamers? No.
I use "rape" loads when im playing games and i see no problem whatsoever with it. "I seriously just got raped in theass by a mothership" Whats wrong with that? Nothing.
tl;dr get a life grow up Go make a rape joke, or even use the word, around a rape victim. Then you might realise that you are the one who needs to grow up. rape 1 (rp) n. 1. The crime of forcing another person to submit to sex acts, especially sexual intercourse. 2. The act of seizing and carrying off by force; abduction.
3. Abusive or improper treatment; violation: a rape of justice.tr.v. raped, rap·ing, rapes 1. To force (another person) to submit to sex acts, especially sexual intercourse; commit rape on. 2. To seize and carry off by force.
3. To plunder or pillage.
holocaust
–noun
1.
a great or complete devastation or destruction, especially by fire.
2.
a sacrifice completely consumed by fire; burnt offering.
3.
( usually initial capital letter ) the systematic mass slaughter of European Jews in Nazi concentration camps during world War II (usually preceded by the ).
4.
any mass slaughter or reckless destruction of life.
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I'm glad there finally is at least some kind of discussion about this topic (it's obviously impossible to discuss it here, this thread is basically 4 pages of insults to people who don't like this use of the word rape) but I personally think it's disgusting to talk about rape like it's funny.
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On April 19 2011 17:58 Tofugrinder wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2011 17:50 Jakkerr wrote:People that make drama about this are just pathetic in my eyes. You seriously have nothing better to do then to /cry about a gaming tournament that used the word 'rape'? 99% of the people crying don't actually care at all but just take every possible chance to whine about everything yay for the internet and about tv... cmon people SC2 isn't gonna be on tv outside of Korea, there is no culture or fanbase for it and it really isn't gonna explode all of the sudden. We should be more then happy with what we have now and maybe that can grow bigger in the future, but tv? no have YOU been a victim of a rape? According to your answer is guess not. Now imagine someone who gets raped and imagine someone who looses a SC2 game. Ignorance for the win..
Haha, so if sum1 of my family would get killed the casters shouldn't say killed or died during fights because it offends me and the other people that know sum1 that got killed? Ignorance for the win..
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It doesn't matter if it's offensive or not. What it indisputably is, is unprofessional. NASL wants to be professional, so they cannot use the word.
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