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BattRoll
Profile Joined August 2010
100 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-12 05:37:10
April 12 2011 05:20 GMT
#1
I have been coming here for quite some time and let me preface this post with the fact that I am not anti - anything, I'm just a regular guy that plays starcraft 2 competitively. However, I feel that a few things need to be brought to light:

#1
People care WAY too much about INSIGNIFICANT things. I constantly see walls of text complaining or somehow analyzing the most trivial and meaningless things about this game, like the OP is looking for a pat on the head from the community. And people feel the need to provide some minor discovery concerning the game in some epic fashioned post that reads like a novel. I just find this all superfluous and completely unnecessary and it makes me question the expectations of this community at large.


#2
There is WAY too much homo-erotic behaviour. The other day I stumble across a "Team Liquid Wrestling Match" thread. I can't avoid watching a train wreck so I open it to unsurprisingly find a homosexual post. As per my original paragraph, I'm not against anything but I do question whether the team liquid members realize that they are being marketed to homosexuals. (Let's be real here, 99.9% of the people who visit these forums are men, and gay men grossly outnumber straight females here). Which is also disturbing to find in these "pro-gamer" picture threads that I occasionally stumble across, which are polluted with gay men commenting on their looks. AGAIN, I have no problems with homosexuality but I again question whether this is the intent of these posts, or the subject has given discretion for this.


#3
There are way too many "wahhh what should I do" threads. Usually involving COMPLETELY OBVIOUS SOLUTIONS. People looking for emotional compassion and guidance on completely stupid topics makes me not only question the bulk of this community, but the competency of our species as a whole.

In closing, I think that Team Liquid moderators should sit back and really think about what kind of community they are trying to foster here because right now all I see is homo-erotic behavior, people being rewarded for being whining losers and people completely wasting their time and talents on superfluous content.

Why not have contests where these people can focus their energy on providing REAL content for this site?

I'm sure that this post will be banned but at least I'll know a moderator took the time to read it.

User was temp banned for this post.

Mod note: please don't write "I'm sure I'll be banned" because that's an automatic ban. It doesn't matter what your post says. You could say I love Hot_Bid he is so handsome, I'll be banned for this" and I will ban you. --HB
cozzE
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia357 Posts
April 12 2011 05:23 GMT
#2
I think your post just covered both 1 and 3 criteria. Nice work man.

You didn't make any sense at all. Forums are boards for discussion between people of mutual interest. I don't see anything wrong with most threads (even if some are beyond reason)
Brad
Profile Joined April 2010
2754 Posts
April 12 2011 05:25 GMT
#3
This is going to be fun.
Lee Jae Dong proved that a focus on mechanics and execution could solve problems in the StarCraft game strategy.
jester-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada547 Posts
April 12 2011 05:25 GMT
#4
On April 12 2011 14:20 BattRoll wrote:
#1
People care WAY too much about INSIGNIFICANT things. I constantly see walls of text complaining or somehow analyzing the most trivial and meaningless things about this game, like the OP is looking for a pat on the head from the community. And people feel the need to provide some minor discovery concerning the game in some epic fashioned post that reads like a novel. I just find this all superfluous and completely unnecessary and it makes me question the expectations of this community at large.


Quoted and bolded for the most extreme irony.

Also, while you may have gotten a warning or simply had your thread closed before, martyring will surely get you banned.
Arise, chicken sandwich.
Bashrai
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada119 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-12 05:26:32
April 12 2011 05:25 GMT
#5
If you're banned it's for martyring not for stating your opinion. An opinion well articulate and mannered are rarely banned. See the ten commandements of TL for the martyring part.
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-12 05:29:38
April 12 2011 05:25 GMT
#6
Lol you pretty much just did exactly what you don't like; if you don't like the community feel free to go to Disneyland and stay there

oh and no matter how much you say you aren't against anything - you sound incredibly homophobic.

I guess things must be tough..

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Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
April 12 2011 05:27 GMT
#7
On April 12 2011 14:20 BattRoll wrote:

#2
There is WAY too much homo-erotic behaviour. The other day I stumble across a "Team Liquid Wrestling Match" thread. I can't avoid watching a train wreck so I open it to unsurprisingly find a homosexual post. As per my original paragraph, I'm not against anything but I do question whether the team liquid members realize that they are being marketed to homosexuals. (Let's be real here, 99.9% of the people who visit these forums are men, and gay men grossly outnumber straight females here). Which is also disturbing to find in these "pro-gamer" picture threads that I occasionally stumble across, which are polluted with gay men commenting on their looks. AGAIN, I have no problems with homosexuality but I again question whether this is the intent of these posts, or the subject has given discretion for this.

I wasn't aware it was still 1960...
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
Atrox
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30 Posts
April 12 2011 05:27 GMT
#8
While I actually agree with most of it you have to understand its the internet. Behind a computer screen people will say anything. They can feel comfortable doing so. Now if team liquid were a group that got together on the weekends or something you wouldnt see some of the discussions you see here.
Stay thirsty my friends
Motat
Profile Joined November 2010
315 Posts
April 12 2011 05:28 GMT
#9
1. Why do you care what people think, use this forum as a guide. Ignore the rest.

2. It's not this forum, I haven't seen a single website/forum/whatever on the internet that doesn't have retarded people posting retarded shit.

3. I'd assume that the majority of the users of this forum are of late teen age, which means their mommy and daddy gave there child anything they asked and spoiled them. These kids don't know any better then asking this forum and how to do certain things. Again, I would advise you to ignore it, who cares if some retard sais "how 2 beat 2 rax as zerg, i triad everything i dunno how to up replay LOL". Those people are trash.
PM me for coaching. I'm a mid masters zerg player.
Rhyme
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1069 Posts
April 12 2011 05:28 GMT
#10
LOL, progamers are some of the hottest pieces of meat on the planet.
dont ever say that
Kazeyonoma
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2912 Posts
April 12 2011 05:29 GMT
#11
homo erotic behavior on the internets?

seriously though, i saw that thread and didn't think it was homo at all, it was just some dudes fucking around. someone's showing their insecurities me thinks.
I now have autographs of both BoxeR and NaDa. I can die happy. Lim Yo Hwan and Lee Yun Yeol FIGHTING forever!
Bear4188
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1797 Posts
April 12 2011 05:29 GMT
#12
On April 12 2011 14:20 BattRoll wrote:
I'm sure that this post will be banned but at least I'll know a moderator took the time to read it.


The brazen sign of someone who's never read the TL Commandments.
"I learned very early the difference between knowing the name of something and knowing something." - R. Feynman
Torpedo.Vegas
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1890 Posts
April 12 2011 05:29 GMT
#13
In starcraft, insignificant individual aspects could compound into a very significant effect. Something as simple as a new rapid larva inject style, or even the thing where flowers would disappear on Lost Temple (?) if Zerg spawned at a certain point allowing players to get a bit of a scouting advantage.
Absolutionn
Profile Joined October 2010
United States512 Posts
April 12 2011 05:30 GMT
#14
Honestly #2 is a bit absurd, a few threads displaying fanboyism towards programers are obviously going to appear on a forum for progaming. Are there female pro-gamers? No. Is the majority of those who follow pro-gaming male? Yes. This is obviously going to come off as homosexual, but even if it were, that should NOT be something of an issue. If you think it is, you can leave, but the rest of us probably see no problem with it.
Jinro | Idra | Qxc | Select
LoLAdriankat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4307 Posts
April 12 2011 05:30 GMT
#15
I dunno man. This is how it's been for a decade now, if you were in charge I doubt it would last any longer.
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
April 12 2011 05:31 GMT
#16
On April 12 2011 14:30 Absolutionn wrote:
Honestly #2 is a bit absurd, a few threads displaying fanboyism towards programers are obviously going to appear on a forum for progaming. Are there female pro-gamers? No. Is the majority of those who follow pro-gaming male? Yes. This is obviously going to come off as homosexual, but even if it were, that should NOT be something of an issue. If you think it is, you can leave, but the rest of us probably see no problem with it.

He obviously doesn't know about the NaDa's Body thread. :D
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
sksyen
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States359 Posts
April 12 2011 05:31 GMT
#17
"There are way too many "wahhh what should I do" threads."

Want a solution to your tears? Leave the community and go elsewhere.
InflowYen.681 || /dance
noobcakes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States526 Posts
April 12 2011 05:31 GMT
#18
wut?
Professional BattleCraft Player
sysrpl
Profile Joined February 2010
United States222 Posts
April 12 2011 05:31 GMT
#19
On April 12 2011 14:20 BattRoll wrote:
I have been coming here for quite some time and let me preface this post with the fact that I am not anti - anything, I'm just a regular guy that plays starcraft 2 competitively. However, I feel that a few things need to be brought to light:

#1
People care WAY too much about INSIGNIFICANT things. I constantly see walls of text complaining or somehow analyzing the most trivial and meaningless things about this game, like the OP is looking for a pat on the head from the community. And people feel the need to provide some minor discovery concerning the game in some epic fashioned post that reads like a novel. I just find this all superfluous and completely unnecessary and it makes me question the expectations of this community at large.


#2
There is WAY too much homo-erotic behaviour. The other day I stumble across a "Team Liquid Wrestling Match" thread. I can't avoid watching a train wreck so I open it to unsurprisingly find a homosexual post. As per my original paragraph, I'm not against anything but I do question whether the team liquid members realize that they are being marketed to homosexuals. (Let's be real here, 99.9% of the people who visit these forums are men, and gay men grossly outnumber straight females here). Which is also disturbing to find in these "pro-gamer" picture threads that I occasionally stumble across, which are polluted with gay men commenting on their looks. AGAIN, I have no problems with homosexuality but I again question whether this is the intent of these posts, or the subject has given discretion for this.


#3
There are way too many "wahhh what should I do" threads. Usually involving COMPLETELY OBVIOUS SOLUTIONS. People looking for emotional compassion and guidance on completely stupid topics makes me not only question the bulk of this community, but the competency of our species as a whole.

In closing, I think that Team Liquid moderators should sit back and really think about what kind of community they are trying to foster here because right now all I see is homo-erotic behavior, people being rewarded for being whining losers and people completely wasting their time and talents on superfluous content.

Why not have contests where these people can focus their energy on providing REAL content for this site?

I'm sure that this post will be banned but at least I'll know a moderator took the time to read it.

I really shouldn't bother replying. Your entire post is a hypocritical troll. I think you and everyone else can figure that much out.

1. You are complaining about something that most people ignore. People don't care about your feelings.

2. In my experience it is the people that are most afraid or upset about homosexuality whom have a latent homosexual desire.

3. Your thread reads like a giant whine.
SilverJohnny
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States885 Posts
April 12 2011 05:31 GMT
#20
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

5/5 would read again.
also i think you should be able to combine like 5 archons to make a really really shitty oliver stone film - Keanu_Reaver, bw balance genius
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
April 12 2011 05:31 GMT
#21
On April 12 2011 14:29 Kazeyonoma wrote:
homo erotic behavior on the internets?

seriously though, i saw that thread and didn't think it was homo at all, it was just some dudes fucking around. someone's showing their insecurities me thinks.

How did you type those two things one after the other without bursting out laughing :p
In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
April 12 2011 05:31 GMT
#22
never say "i'm probably going to be banned for this post" in your post because that is martyring which is against the Ten Commandments.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Brad
Profile Joined April 2010
2754 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-12 05:34:06
April 12 2011 05:32 GMT
#23
Bisu, so hot right now.

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Lee Jae Dong proved that a focus on mechanics and execution could solve problems in the StarCraft game strategy.
jester-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada547 Posts
April 12 2011 05:33 GMT
#24
Anyone wanna go rollerblading with me and my little dog later? (guys only plz girls are slow)
Arise, chicken sandwich.
Tektos
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1321 Posts
April 12 2011 05:34 GMT
#25
OP is such a smoking hot stud and his entire reason for posting #2 is that he's jealous that his ripped hard body glistening with sweat doesn't get as much attention. Don't worry OP, I'll rub body oil all over your manly pecs and rock hard glutes for you.








Homophobic much?
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
April 12 2011 05:35 GMT
#26
On April 12 2011 14:31 BLinD-RawR wrote:
never say "i'm probably going to be banned for this post" in your post because that is martyring which is against the Ten Commandments.

Agreed. Hurry up and delete that line or else this post will be locked into oblivion.

Also, I do disagree with #2. Obviously, there are a few threads from the gay community celebrating their place in the community, and that is completely respectable. Of course, there are other threads like the awesome Nada's Body thread where we admire the bodies of progamers, but mostly in a lighthearted, non-serious tone and attitude.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-12 05:36:42
April 12 2011 05:35 GMT
#27
lol okay you are right on some points but I think you are taking the homo behavior a bit too seriously. I assure you that most of us that make those comments are straight as fuck and are just messing around. We joke. Yes, we love Jaedong, but 95% of us would not kiss him, fist him, lick him, or eff him. Haha, I hope. can someone back me up on this and reassure me and the OP?
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
April 12 2011 05:35 GMT
#28
On April 12 2011 14:32 Brad wrote:
Bisu, so hot right now.

[image loading]


naw man JD is better.

[image loading]
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Curtismcfly
Profile Joined November 2010
United States215 Posts
April 12 2011 05:35 GMT
#29
Are you serious? I love this community the way it is. Yes there are some dumb posts, but you don't have to click on them. Homo-erotic behavior, really? You've never wrestled around with friends? that just sounds like your a little insecure...

oh yeah, gj on completely belittling the staff.....
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36374 Posts
April 12 2011 05:38 GMT
#30
Moved this to blogs, it's a personal statement not a SC2 thread.

Also, please don't martyr, it puts us in a very difficult position moderation wise. Proclaiming you get banned is a really stupid way to get attention / criticize moderation.
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
Brad
Profile Joined April 2010
2754 Posts
April 12 2011 05:38 GMT
#31
Well guys, that was fun. Time to move onto bigger and better things. No homo. :D
Lee Jae Dong proved that a focus on mechanics and execution could solve problems in the StarCraft game strategy.
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36374 Posts
April 12 2011 05:39 GMT
#32
OK now I've actually read your blog (after auto-banning you after reading that martyr line). Wow homophobia, lol.

Closed.

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