EPTWhy people insist on using sociological studies done by academics to create random and pointless hyperbolic debates in the interweb is beyond me, but I guess I should be used to it by now.
Extinction of Religion - Page 8
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kataa
United Kingdom384 Posts
Why people insist on using sociological studies done by academics to create random and pointless hyperbolic debates in the interweb is beyond me, but I guess I should be used to it by now. | ||
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Arefel
United States31 Posts
On March 23 2011 10:34 Warf wrote: i got the list from this study from highest percentage of non believers in god(s) to lowest ![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/byAG0.jpg) Why did you bother posting this? It's got no source or anything and is CLEARLY outdated/wrong. Now all the gullible/ignorant people are going to be citing it. =[[[[[[[[[[[ | ||
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Mindcrime
United States6899 Posts
On March 23 2011 11:24 jimmyjingle wrote: atheism is just as useless as religion. take this thread for example. the only way to win is not to play Atheism is the lack of one particular belief. You can't not play. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44257 Posts
On March 23 2011 11:24 jimmyjingle wrote: atheism is just as useless as religion. take this thread for example. the only way to win is not to play Atheism is exactly not playing. | ||
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inamorato
United States263 Posts
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I_Love_Bacon
United States5765 Posts
Agnosticism is not playing. Atheism is playing for the other team. | ||
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Kenderson
Canada280 Posts
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ShatterZer0
United States1843 Posts
On March 23 2011 10:28 Skillz_Man wrote: Hmm, I'm not suprised Canada is on that list. Personally I think it's a good thing, in the modern world I just don't feel it plays such an important role. It will lower religious conflicts and I just believe it's not something necessary anymore. Crazy to think that 500 years ago religion controlled much of the world - and now it's turning into this. Of course non-religious conflict is so much better... What is society really based upon? I think we'll have WWIII and then we'll get much less apathetic... or perhaps just have another lost generation... or three. Religion goes in cycles. We cling to it. We question it. We abhor it. We are shattered by our own human stupidity. We search for a new anchor. We either cling to religion, something else, or become absurdists. We can only live so long believing we don't have a reason to exist. Humanity wants acceptance. The porcupine's dilemma doesn't factor into the average person's life. | ||
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101toss
3232 Posts
You could also contend that agnosticism is also not playing. Edit: Damn, Ninja'd | ||
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Obelisco
Peru1962 Posts
However, I really think this kind of threads are really not worthy, as said before they separate the community, people can defend/ofend others just for their pleasure as it is the internet. I believe noone is looking to get convinced by someone else's view, this is just a motivation for flame war. I really think religion is not an appropiate topic to discuss in internet in a public forum. | ||
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JiYan
United States3668 Posts
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ShatterZer0
United States1843 Posts
On March 23 2011 11:25 Arefel wrote: Why did you bother posting this? It's got no source or anything and is CLEARLY outdated/wrong. Now all the gullible/ignorant people are going to be citing it. =[[[[[[[[[[[ LOL North Korea? How in the FLYING FUCK did that get found out? Seriously, post something at least halfway credible so there aren't idiotic misunderstandings. | ||
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Warf
Netherlands71 Posts
On March 23 2011 11:25 Arefel wrote: Why did you bother posting this? It's got no source or anything and is CLEARLY outdated/wrong. Now all the gullible/ignorant people are going to be citing it. =[[[[[[[[[[[ http://frontpage.fok.nl/nieuws/435760/1/1/100/religies-ten-dode-opgeschreven-in-nederland.html http://www.nu.nl/wetenschap/2473966/religie-in-nederland-zal-uitsterven-.html dutch site's (you probably need to use some kind of translator) and are actually fresh from a couple days/weeks | ||
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Ghostcom
Denmark4782 Posts
On March 23 2011 10:53 stalefish wrote: Yes but a moral codex that is out-dated, and is unable to change due to peoples belief that there is some magical being that handed it down to them. Which of the moral codex' are you talking about? I can't really name any of the major religions where the "rules" regarding how to treat other people is actually outdated... Sure, the threat of hell/eternal punishment seems rather silly, but it's really all a question of how litterally you understand the texts... | ||
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Absolutionn
United States512 Posts
On March 23 2011 11:24 101toss wrote: I never posited my ideas as absolute truths. These are merely my views and opinions (and are certainly biased to an extent), and you have your freedom to refute my thought as you please. And yes, the study has nothing to do with killing religion. It's merely statistical data. However, a majority of the posters here suggest that killing religion outright would be the best thing for the world. Thus, the thread devolved from discussing the data into discussing the validity of religion. Well I dont agree with other posters who are speaking for the direct eradication of religion. In my opinion theism will eventually become significantly less popular, and die out. But obviously this cant be forced because people have to come to a point of understanding through reason and logic. | ||
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whiteguycash
United States476 Posts
On March 23 2011 11:20 BlackMagister wrote: Who? Like Sam Harris? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Moral_Landscape The moral relativism thing is pretty silly. There are societies where most people do not believe in God, but they don't go around killing and raping each other. Life even without Heave and Hell, God/Jesus and The Devil still has meaning. I treat people kindly because I know my actions have consequences and I want to live in a world where we can get along. I know some people do exploit others and want to correct that. Some thiests claim without God they would kill, but of course they wouldn't. Even without God there are things to care about, there are consequences to actions even if you're just held to them by other humans and not something supernatural. But why? what makes these things important? why do they have more weight than my cutthroat attitude. I don't know why moral relativism is silly to you, because you have no objective reasoning to pin it down to, other than the 10-1 ratio of Betas to Alphas in Society. Lack of Moral relativism is beneficial to Betas, because they have inherent protection. Moral relativism is beneficial to alphas because they are the lords of their domain. With a strong Beta presence in philosophy and "morality" you end up having a society otherwise diluted by inferior and faulty genetics. It would be better if only the strongest, smartest, and best looking were allowed to reproduce or live, because it would give our race the best chance of living and advancing through the eons, surviving catastrophic events, and ultimately migrating to other inhabitable places. also, once people get too old and decrepit, it would make sense, in terms of societal justice, to do away with them, because they are hindering the advancement of the human race, in that they provide little to no benefit while consuming a greater amount of resources than the general populace. | ||
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AdamBanks
Canada996 Posts
On March 23 2011 11:25 Mindcrime wrote: Atheism is the lack of one particular belief. You can't not play. I thought Atheist's deny the existance of a god? Like they think the universe came into existance by....natural(??) means or something. Basically they don't need god to explain the creation of the universe somehow? | ||
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Absolutionn
United States512 Posts
On March 23 2011 11:29 Ghostcom wrote: Which of the moral codex' are you talking about? I can't really name any of the major religions where the "rules" regarding how to treat other people is actually outdated... Sure, the threat of hell/eternal punishment seems rather silly, but it's really all a question of how litterally you understand the texts... Does it not say in the bible directly that God hates gays and that women are to be silent and not to speak? | ||
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101toss
3232 Posts
On March 23 2011 11:28 ShatterZer0 wrote: LOL North Korea? How in the FLYING FUCK did that get found out? Seriously, post something at least halfway credible so there aren't idiotic misunderstandings. You're a little bit late to the punch. | ||
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inamorato
United States263 Posts
You've posted like 7 times in 10 minutes. If you want to convince people to join you're wonderful religion go pray on your local adolescence you tedler. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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