On November 09 2011 16:32 Haydin wrote: There's an international scene in SC2 where you can actually compete in tournaments and try to redeem yourself savior.....
No. No one would let him back.
I don't think he would have any trouble at all getting into SC2. The only thing that banned his is kespa.
Liquid`Savior, make it happen!
As people have already said, GOM have banned him too.
There is no way TL would accept a person who did his best to wreck the progaming scene by being a dirty criminal into their team. It would ruin everything Liquid stands for, man.
It's not like he was intentionally trying to wreck the progaming scene you know. Just making some money on the side
On November 09 2011 16:32 Haydin wrote: There's an international scene in SC2 where you can actually compete in tournaments and try to redeem yourself savior.....
No. No one would let him back.
I don't think he would have any trouble at all getting into SC2. The only thing that banned his is kespa.
Liquid`Savior, make it happen!
As people have already said, GOM have banned him too.
There is no way TL would accept a person who did his best to wreck the progaming scene by being a dirty criminal into their team. It would ruin everything Liquid stands for, man.
It's not like he was intentionally trying to wreck the progaming scene you know. Just making some money on the side
He knew very well what his actions would mean. Obviously that wasn't his goal, but he knew what was at stake, especially as he was the original Bonjwa, and thus a superstar.
Imagine if Roger Federer admitted that he was part of a betting ring that set up games, and he had gotten others involved too.
There is no excuse for someone in Savior's spot who was already making so much bank to do that.
I'm still in awe after watching that highlights video. Those were seriously some genius plays that would each be worthy of a pimpest plays recommendation, and I'm probably going to go around showing the highlights to random friends until they tell me to stop. It's sad that such a brilliant player had to throw his career away.
On November 09 2011 16:32 Haydin wrote: There's an international scene in SC2 where you can actually compete in tournaments and try to redeem yourself savior.....
No. No one would let him back.
I don't think he would have any trouble at all getting into SC2. The only thing that banned his is kespa.
Liquid`Savior, make it happen!
As people have already said, GOM have banned him too.
There is no way TL would accept a person who did his best to wreck the progaming scene by being a dirty criminal into their team. It would ruin everything Liquid stands for, man.
It's not like he was intentionally trying to wreck the progaming scene you know. Just making some money on the side
Match fixing ruins the experience of spectating games of skill.
Intentionally or not, broker or actor, there's a reason match fixing is such a big issue. Why do people defend Savior's actions so fervently? Or at least make it seem like what he did was small and insignificant? It is a serious crime to fix matches, just look at the Pakistani cricketers recently.
On November 09 2011 22:29 Rojam wrote: To be fair, there are pro sc2 players, who were cheating in bw and got caught. I won't drop any names, but they've gotten a second chance as well.
On November 09 2011 22:29 Rojam wrote: To be fair, there are pro sc2 players, who were cheating in bw and got caught. I won't drop any names, but they've gotten a second chance as well.
On November 09 2011 22:29 Rojam wrote: To be fair, there are pro sc2 players, who were cheating in bw and got caught. I won't drop any names, but they've gotten a second chance as well.
what? name me some, i'm interested
I'm pretty sure he means people who map-hacked or abused something. You should know these foreign players who did so.
On November 09 2011 16:32 Haydin wrote: There's an international scene in SC2 where you can actually compete in tournaments and try to redeem yourself savior.....
No. No one would let him back.
I don't think he would have any trouble at all getting into SC2. The only thing that banned his is kespa.
Liquid`Savior, make it happen!
As people have already said, GOM have banned him too.
There is no way TL would accept a person who did his best to wreck the progaming scene by being a dirty criminal into their team. It would ruin everything Liquid stands for, man.
It's not like he was intentionally trying to wreck the progaming scene you know. Just making some money on the side
Match fixing ruins the experience of spectating games of skill.
Intentionally or not, broker or actor, there's a reason match fixing is such a big issue. Why do people defend Savior's actions so fervently? Or at least make it seem like what he did was small and insignificant? It is a serious crime to fix matches, just look at the Pakistani cricketers recently.
Because these TLers are just downright stupid. Savior is a major reason why the BW scene has shrunk to what it is today. For some people here to lament the decreasing popularity of BW and then to support savior and enjoy his afreeca games at the same time is just a giant hypocrisy.
On November 09 2011 16:32 Haydin wrote: There's an international scene in SC2 where you can actually compete in tournaments and try to redeem yourself savior.....
No. No one would let him back.
I don't think he would have any trouble at all getting into SC2. The only thing that banned his is kespa.
Liquid`Savior, make it happen!
As people have already said, GOM have banned him too.
There is no way TL would accept a person who did his best to wreck the progaming scene by being a dirty criminal into their team. It would ruin everything Liquid stands for, man.
It's not like he was intentionally trying to wreck the progaming scene you know. Just making some money on the side
Match fixing ruins the experience of spectating games of skill.
Intentionally or not, broker or actor, there's a reason match fixing is such a big issue. Why do people defend Savior's actions so fervently? Or at least make it seem like what he did was small and insignificant? It is a serious crime to fix matches, just look at the Pakistani cricketers recently.
Because these TLers are just downright stupid.
We need more information on these cricketers. And there is that 1h video where the casters discuss the matchfixing event. Maybe all Savior fans should watch it.
On November 09 2011 16:32 Haydin wrote: There's an international scene in SC2 where you can actually compete in tournaments and try to redeem yourself savior.....
No. No one would let him back.
I don't think he would have any trouble at all getting into SC2. The only thing that banned his is kespa.
Liquid`Savior, make it happen!
As people have already said, GOM have banned him too.
There is no way TL would accept a person who did his best to wreck the progaming scene by being a dirty criminal into their team. It would ruin everything Liquid stands for, man.
It's not like he was intentionally trying to wreck the progaming scene you know. Just making some money on the side
Match fixing ruins the experience of spectating games of skill.
Intentionally or not, broker or actor, there's a reason match fixing is such a big issue. Why do people defend Savior's actions so fervently? Or at least make it seem like what he did was small and insignificant? It is a serious crime to fix matches, just look at the Pakistani cricketers recently.
Because these TLers are just downright stupid.
We need more information on these cricketers. And there is that 1h video where the casters discuss the matchfixing event. Maybe all Savior fans should watch it.
Those cricketers (and an agent I think too) involved were jailed. One of the fixers received 30 months More info if you're interested
I believe some of the people involved with the Pakistan cricket match fixing got 2 years. The players got 2 months to 1 year. These are not the exact numbers or anything but just a rough idea of the sentences.
On November 09 2011 22:29 Rojam wrote: To be fair, there are pro sc2 players, who were cheating in bw and got caught. I won't drop any names, but they've gotten a second chance as well.
what? name me some, i'm interested
I'm pretty sure he means people who map-hacked or abused something. You should know these foreign players who did so.
TT1 right ? yeah there was a lot of talk about him hacking
Hot_Bid Administrator April 21 2008 04:22. TT1 admitted to hacking in the WGT pack after hotkey signature confirmed that it was him. He said this to me on MSN, and also said I could post that he said this.
He also still maintains he didn't hack in the 5 recent reps, believe him if you wan
On November 09 2011 16:32 Haydin wrote: There's an international scene in SC2 where you can actually compete in tournaments and try to redeem yourself savior.....
No. No one would let him back.
I don't think he would have any trouble at all getting into SC2. The only thing that banned his is kespa.
Liquid`Savior, make it happen!
You wouldnt be to afraid that he'd do something behind your backs and later give you all a bad name?
On November 10 2011 00:07 blubbdavid wrote: So the captain of the team got busted. Hmmm, was he Savior-like in terms of popularity? Is cricket a sport as fragile as BW?
I'm afraid I can't really answer as I don't follow cricket all that much, I just remember the jailing from watching the news. As for whether Cricket is as fragile as BW, I think probably not. But that doesn't change the fact that match fixing in any sport, fragile or not, is detrimental.
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