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arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
November 09 2011 12:50 GMT
#1281
On November 09 2011 21:14 Holgerius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 17:49 Manifesto7 wrote:
On November 09 2011 16:44 IntoTheWow wrote:
On November 09 2011 16:32 Haydin wrote:
There's an international scene in SC2 where you can actually compete in tournaments and try to redeem yourself savior.....


No. No one would let him back.


I don't think he would have any trouble at all getting into SC2. The only thing that banned his is kespa.

Liquid`Savior, make it happen!

As people have already said, GOM have banned him too.

There is no way TL would accept a person who did his best to wreck the progaming scene by being a dirty criminal into their team. It would ruin everything Liquid stands for, man.

It's not like he was intentionally trying to wreck the progaming scene you know.
Just making some money on the side
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Keone
Profile Joined April 2011
United States812 Posts
November 09 2011 13:03 GMT
#1282
On November 09 2011 21:50 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 21:14 Holgerius wrote:
On November 09 2011 17:49 Manifesto7 wrote:
On November 09 2011 16:44 IntoTheWow wrote:
On November 09 2011 16:32 Haydin wrote:
There's an international scene in SC2 where you can actually compete in tournaments and try to redeem yourself savior.....


No. No one would let him back.


I don't think he would have any trouble at all getting into SC2. The only thing that banned his is kespa.

Liquid`Savior, make it happen!

As people have already said, GOM have banned him too.

There is no way TL would accept a person who did his best to wreck the progaming scene by being a dirty criminal into their team. It would ruin everything Liquid stands for, man.

It's not like he was intentionally trying to wreck the progaming scene you know.
Just making some money on the side

He knew very well what his actions would mean. Obviously that wasn't his goal, but he knew what was at stake, especially as he was the original Bonjwa, and thus a superstar.

Imagine if Roger Federer admitted that he was part of a betting ring that set up games, and he had gotten others involved too.

There is no excuse for someone in Savior's spot who was already making so much bank to do that.
BW Forever. Flash is the Ultimate Bonjwa.
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
November 09 2011 13:06 GMT
#1283
I'm still in awe after watching that highlights video. Those were seriously some genius plays that would each be worthy of a pimpest plays recommendation, and I'm probably going to go around showing the highlights to random friends until they tell me to stop. It's sad that such a brilliant player had to throw his career away.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
FractalsOnFire
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1756 Posts
November 09 2011 13:06 GMT
#1284
On November 09 2011 21:50 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 21:14 Holgerius wrote:
On November 09 2011 17:49 Manifesto7 wrote:
On November 09 2011 16:44 IntoTheWow wrote:
On November 09 2011 16:32 Haydin wrote:
There's an international scene in SC2 where you can actually compete in tournaments and try to redeem yourself savior.....


No. No one would let him back.


I don't think he would have any trouble at all getting into SC2. The only thing that banned his is kespa.

Liquid`Savior, make it happen!

As people have already said, GOM have banned him too.

There is no way TL would accept a person who did his best to wreck the progaming scene by being a dirty criminal into their team. It would ruin everything Liquid stands for, man.

It's not like he was intentionally trying to wreck the progaming scene you know.
Just making some money on the side


Match fixing ruins the experience of spectating games of skill.

Intentionally or not, broker or actor, there's a reason match fixing is such a big issue. Why do people defend Savior's actions so fervently? Or at least make it seem like what he did was small and insignificant? It is a serious crime to fix matches, just look at the Pakistani cricketers recently.

mcmartini
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia1972 Posts
November 09 2011 13:24 GMT
#1285
Those muta splits so quick. That is a great high light video so keen for new Proleague need more BW
I just want to say I have 370 APM - Liquid'Tyler SotG 14-12-2011 "I mean it's too bad you can't be paid to be, you know, a chicken shit fucking whiny bitch on the internet or we would have lots of rich community members" Nick "Tasteless" Plott
Rojam
Profile Joined September 2007
Germany234 Posts
November 09 2011 13:29 GMT
#1286
To be fair, there are pro sc2 players, who were cheating in bw and got caught. I won't drop any names, but they've gotten a second chance as well.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66365 Posts
November 09 2011 13:40 GMT
#1287
On November 09 2011 22:29 Rojam wrote:
To be fair, there are pro sc2 players, who were cheating in bw and got caught. I won't drop any names, but they've gotten a second chance as well.

what? name me some, i'm interested
POGGERS
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51622 Posts
November 09 2011 13:42 GMT
#1288
On November 09 2011 22:40 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 22:29 Rojam wrote:
To be fair, there are pro sc2 players, who were cheating in bw and got caught. I won't drop any names, but they've gotten a second chance as well.

what? name me some, i'm interested

dimaga and TT1 come to mind....HayprO?
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42417 Posts
November 09 2011 13:42 GMT
#1289
On November 09 2011 22:40 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 22:29 Rojam wrote:
To be fair, there are pro sc2 players, who were cheating in bw and got caught. I won't drop any names, but they've gotten a second chance as well.

what? name me some, i'm interested


I'm pretty sure he means people who map-hacked or abused something. You should know these foreign players who did so.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Hier
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
2391 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-09 14:48:54
November 09 2011 14:43 GMT
#1290
Omg those highlights. Incredible.
Should try add them to Savior's TLPD page.

Edit: I also do not see how ear-hacking helped Savior in the game linked a few pages back. Was it the right game?
"But on a more serious note..." -everyone on this forum at some point.
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
November 09 2011 14:49 GMT
#1291
The highlight vid is sick. I love BW.
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
white_horse
Profile Joined July 2010
1019 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-09 14:57:52
November 09 2011 14:53 GMT
#1292
On November 09 2011 22:06 FractalsOnFire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 21:50 arb wrote:
On November 09 2011 21:14 Holgerius wrote:
On November 09 2011 17:49 Manifesto7 wrote:
On November 09 2011 16:44 IntoTheWow wrote:
On November 09 2011 16:32 Haydin wrote:
There's an international scene in SC2 where you can actually compete in tournaments and try to redeem yourself savior.....


No. No one would let him back.


I don't think he would have any trouble at all getting into SC2. The only thing that banned his is kespa.

Liquid`Savior, make it happen!

As people have already said, GOM have banned him too.

There is no way TL would accept a person who did his best to wreck the progaming scene by being a dirty criminal into their team. It would ruin everything Liquid stands for, man.

It's not like he was intentionally trying to wreck the progaming scene you know.
Just making some money on the side


Match fixing ruins the experience of spectating games of skill.

Intentionally or not, broker or actor, there's a reason match fixing is such a big issue. Why do people defend Savior's actions so fervently? Or at least make it seem like what he did was small and insignificant? It is a serious crime to fix matches, just look at the Pakistani cricketers recently.



Because these TLers are just downright stupid. Savior is a major reason why the BW scene has shrunk to what it is today. For some people here to lament the decreasing popularity of BW and then to support savior and enjoy his afreeca games at the same time is just a giant hypocrisy.
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blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
November 09 2011 14:57 GMT
#1293
On November 09 2011 23:53 white_horse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 22:06 FractalsOnFire wrote:
On November 09 2011 21:50 arb wrote:
On November 09 2011 21:14 Holgerius wrote:
On November 09 2011 17:49 Manifesto7 wrote:
On November 09 2011 16:44 IntoTheWow wrote:
On November 09 2011 16:32 Haydin wrote:
There's an international scene in SC2 where you can actually compete in tournaments and try to redeem yourself savior.....


No. No one would let him back.


I don't think he would have any trouble at all getting into SC2. The only thing that banned his is kespa.

Liquid`Savior, make it happen!

As people have already said, GOM have banned him too.

There is no way TL would accept a person who did his best to wreck the progaming scene by being a dirty criminal into their team. It would ruin everything Liquid stands for, man.

It's not like he was intentionally trying to wreck the progaming scene you know.
Just making some money on the side


Match fixing ruins the experience of spectating games of skill.

Intentionally or not, broker or actor, there's a reason match fixing is such a big issue. Why do people defend Savior's actions so fervently? Or at least make it seem like what he did was small and insignificant? It is a serious crime to fix matches, just look at the Pakistani cricketers recently.



Because these TLers are just downright stupid.

We need more information on these cricketers.
And there is that 1h video where the casters discuss the matchfixing event. Maybe all Savior fans should watch it.
What do you desire? Money? Glory? Power? Revenge? Or something that surpasses all other? Whatever you desire - that is here. Tower of God ¦¦Nutella, drink of the Gods
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-09 15:02:53
November 09 2011 15:01 GMT
#1294
On November 09 2011 23:57 blubbdavid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 23:53 white_horse wrote:
On November 09 2011 22:06 FractalsOnFire wrote:
On November 09 2011 21:50 arb wrote:
On November 09 2011 21:14 Holgerius wrote:
On November 09 2011 17:49 Manifesto7 wrote:
On November 09 2011 16:44 IntoTheWow wrote:
On November 09 2011 16:32 Haydin wrote:
There's an international scene in SC2 where you can actually compete in tournaments and try to redeem yourself savior.....


No. No one would let him back.


I don't think he would have any trouble at all getting into SC2. The only thing that banned his is kespa.

Liquid`Savior, make it happen!

As people have already said, GOM have banned him too.

There is no way TL would accept a person who did his best to wreck the progaming scene by being a dirty criminal into their team. It would ruin everything Liquid stands for, man.

It's not like he was intentionally trying to wreck the progaming scene you know.
Just making some money on the side


Match fixing ruins the experience of spectating games of skill.

Intentionally or not, broker or actor, there's a reason match fixing is such a big issue. Why do people defend Savior's actions so fervently? Or at least make it seem like what he did was small and insignificant? It is a serious crime to fix matches, just look at the Pakistani cricketers recently.



Because these TLers are just downright stupid.

We need more information on these cricketers.
And there is that 1h video where the casters discuss the matchfixing event. Maybe all Savior fans should watch it.

Those cricketers (and an agent I think too) involved were jailed. One of the fixers received 30 months
More info if you're interested
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-09 15:07:37
November 09 2011 15:07 GMT
#1295
So the captain of the team got busted. Hmmm, was he Savior-like in terms of popularity? Is cricket a sport as fragile as BW?
What do you desire? Money? Glory? Power? Revenge? Or something that surpasses all other? Whatever you desire - that is here. Tower of God ¦¦Nutella, drink of the Gods
Littlemuff
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom301 Posts
November 09 2011 15:08 GMT
#1296
I believe some of the people involved with the Pakistan cricket match fixing got 2 years. The players got 2 months to 1 year. These are not the exact numbers or anything but just a rough idea of the sentences.
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
November 09 2011 15:11 GMT
#1297
On November 09 2011 22:42 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 22:40 konadora wrote:
On November 09 2011 22:29 Rojam wrote:
To be fair, there are pro sc2 players, who were cheating in bw and got caught. I won't drop any names, but they've gotten a second chance as well.

what? name me some, i'm interested


I'm pretty sure he means people who map-hacked or abused something. You should know these foreign players who did so.



TT1 right ? yeah there was a lot of talk about him hacking


Hot_Bid Administrator April 21 2008 04:22.
TT1 admitted to hacking in the WGT pack after hotkey signature confirmed that it was him. He said this to me on MSN, and also said I could post that he said this.

He also still maintains he didn't hack in the 5 recent reps, believe him if you wan


Source http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=69911&currentpage=11#210
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KameZerg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1776 Posts
November 09 2011 15:19 GMT
#1298
On November 09 2011 17:49 Manifesto7 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 16:44 IntoTheWow wrote:
On November 09 2011 16:32 Haydin wrote:
There's an international scene in SC2 where you can actually compete in tournaments and try to redeem yourself savior.....


No. No one would let him back.


I don't think he would have any trouble at all getting into SC2. The only thing that banned his is kespa.

Liquid`Savior, make it happen!


You wouldnt be to afraid that he'd do something behind your backs and later give you all a bad name?
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ZoW
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3983 Posts
November 09 2011 15:21 GMT
#1299
Holy shit that video is insane
the courage to be a lazy bum
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
November 09 2011 15:24 GMT
#1300
On November 10 2011 00:07 blubbdavid wrote:
So the captain of the team got busted. Hmmm, was he Savior-like in terms of popularity? Is cricket a sport as fragile as BW?

I'm afraid I can't really answer as I don't follow cricket all that much, I just remember the jailing from watching the news. As for whether Cricket is as fragile as BW, I think probably not. But that doesn't change the fact that match fixing in any sport, fragile or not, is detrimental.
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
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