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MarineKingPrime.WE interview at thisisgame.com - Page 8

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Glaven
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada554 Posts
January 17 2011 00:50 GMT
#141
Not really a fan of his play but he sounds like a super nice and humble guy from these answers. +1 points to him.
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Loophole
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States867 Posts
January 17 2011 01:18 GMT
#142
Great Interview. Thanks for the translation!
"Fundamental preparation is always effective. Work on those parts of your game that are fundamentally weak." -Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Champi
Profile Joined March 2010
1422 Posts
January 17 2011 01:19 GMT
#143
I think this guy is solid, regardless of his gimicky marines, as long as he is able to perform just as well with other builds, i dont have a problem with him being where he is with personal stylish/gimmicky builds
Phtes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States370 Posts
January 17 2011 01:27 GMT
#144

Ending the game with SCVs and marines isnt a show of skill. Its what people do to hide their lack of skill.

If you were a progamer who practiced the ins and outs of the game everyday and were actually good, why would you want to play like that? The point of playing standard macro games is that you are given more opportunities to outplay your opponent.

Why do you think people would prefer to throw marines and scvs at Idra rather outplay and make better decisions than him? Because theyre worse than him and they know it. Jinro plays standard because Jinro doesnt need to rely on 5 minute gimmicks to beat Idra.

Stop trying to justify this terrible way of playing. The fact that Foxer was almost crowned the best SC2 player in the world a few months ago is nothing short of a joke.

If hes trying to branch out and actually play good games, then good for him.


1. 90% of MKP's games are 1-2rax FE, sometimes expoing before even a zerg player.

2. Jinro vs Idra go look at the unit comp 80% marine 15% tank 5% thor. MKP vs Zerg 80% Marine, 10% Marauder, and lately 70% marine 30% tank. Same core unit just different combinations, Jinro Prefers the slow turtle push composition, MKP prefers the expand on aggression comps and can support this with incredible micro.

3. Almost every game in GSL 3 / 4 from MKP have now involved higher tier units, be it medivacs, tanks, etc. In GSL 4 hes even been doing alot of tank, viking builds.

4. The original standard for TvZ was win fast or gg, MKP found a cost effective way to be on equal macro terms with a zerg and army trade cost effectively. Not the previously accepted build a 200/200 army into doom push and gg if you dont kill his main base. Or the just all in and end it fast.

5. MKP's Marine play turned into the standard for all TvZ's eventually evolving into tank/marine +late game thor, the now accepted playstyle.

The play style every terran except for maybe a few all derived from MKP's cost effective form of fighting a zerg, the tanks were originally added in cause not everyone can split 50 marines in 10 different directions within 1game second like him. Calling his playstyle terrible is calling every pro terrans play style terrible.


I'm Your Phtes o.0 **SKT1 For Life!**
CooDu
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia899 Posts
January 17 2011 01:36 GMT
#145
What a sweet interview set, nice work!
Just a simple guy, going wherever this journey takes me.
Xswordy
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom425 Posts
January 17 2011 02:02 GMT
#146
Haha awesome interview. Thx for translating and posting.
Dubes
Profile Joined August 2010
United States327 Posts
January 17 2011 03:06 GMT
#147
Before this interview I hated MKP just for taking my favorite players out of the GSL, but now I really like him! What a down to earth, kind, and generous member of the community. Giving his winnings to his parents says mountains about him.
cuppatea
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom1401 Posts
January 17 2011 03:19 GMT
#148
On January 17 2011 12:06 Dubes wrote:
Before this interview I hated MKP just for taking my favorite players out of the GSL, but now I really like him! What a down to earth, kind, and generous member of the community. Giving his winnings to his parents says mountains about him.


It doesn't really say anything about him, "I'm giving the money to my parents" is the standard Korean response to that question.
Turgid
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1623 Posts
January 17 2011 04:03 GMT
#149
I like MKP and respect his popularization/refinement of the 2rax openings, but the tanks and marines only unit composition mentioned above was I BELIEVE pioneered by none other than IMMVP. We can never know what MKP was doing in practice before MVP, though.

MVP also started splitting marines in GSL first(though it was also in GSL2).

Nevertheless, MKP is an excellent Terran. I think you'd be crazy to look at his skills - respectable macro, respectable sense of timing, excellent micro - and think "yeah, there's no way this guy knows how to siege a tank" or something like that. I'd be shocked to learn that he couldn't competently execute the vast majority of the Terran strategies that are popular right now.
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Kamais_Ookin
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada4218 Posts
January 17 2011 04:35 GMT
#150
Very nice interview with a lot of humorous moments, thank you for the translation!
I <3 Plexa.
Brett
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Australia3822 Posts
January 17 2011 05:05 GMT
#151
Cheers for the translation
Entr0py
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany11 Posts
January 17 2011 05:52 GMT
#152
What are your thoughts about rumors of a possible marine nerf?


What? Am I the only one who noticed that? Does anyone know where that rumor came from?
Absorb what is useful, discard what is not, add what is uniquely your own...
Paradice
Profile Joined October 2010
New Zealand431 Posts
January 17 2011 06:05 GMT
#153
On January 17 2011 14:52 Entr0py wrote:
Show nested quote +
What are your thoughts about rumors of a possible marine nerf?


What? Am I the only one who noticed that? Does anyone know where that rumor came from?


I'm guessing it's a reference to Blizzard repeatedly saying they're worried about stim marine DPS being too high, which IIRC dates way back to Blizzcon, where it was talked about primarily in relation to TvP early game.
Dakkas
Profile Joined October 2010
2550 Posts
January 17 2011 06:08 GMT
#154
As much as I loved the interview, one of the best imo, am I the only one that wants to know more about his mentioning of the FD? Specifically his 'relationship' with the GSL artist?
arnold(soTa)
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden352 Posts
January 17 2011 06:24 GMT
#155
thnx. foxer seems like a reasonable guy.
I like him but he is wrong about foreigners only caring about quality of games, we care about sportsmanship and such also. atleast I do.

what I like the most is when people can take a group of units no1 else could do shit with and then destroying worlds with them, like marineking does with marines. respect and good luck to him
"I like turtles"
frumpylumps
Profile Joined September 2010
61 Posts
January 17 2011 06:25 GMT
#156
<3 marineking, my favorite terran. He tries to show entertaining games, not just win, that is why he lost season 2.
iEchoic
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1776 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-17 07:09:14
January 17 2011 07:07 GMT
#157
Foxer has been my favorite Terran player since I first watched him. His bio micro is the best in the entire world, without a shadow of a doubt, and contrary to what tl.net haters say, he doesn't even allin that much. Almost all of his builds are FE builds.

I personally believe that either Foxer or NaDa will be the first to win a GSL. MVP may as well, although I think it's a bit less likely.

Good interview, humble responses, seems like a smart guy.
vileEchoic -- clanvile.com
iDope
Profile Joined October 2010
Saudi Arabia223 Posts
January 17 2011 08:20 GMT
#158
Just posting to say the OPs translation is awesome. Great job posting this.
PheNOM_
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States417 Posts
January 17 2011 08:51 GMT
#159
Good interview, thanks.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=184006
CounteR
Profile Joined August 2010
New Zealand103 Posts
January 17 2011 11:13 GMT
#160
Thanks for the translation~ ^^
GG GL HF
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