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Hello everyone,
I'm a random player, and have been practicing my APM for a while. Currently my APM level is as follow:
When I play calm, my average APM is about 60/60/80 for terran/protross/zerg (when I practice my APM, it's roughly +20 for each race).
So overall, my APM as a zerg is significantly higher than with other races.
I have been wondering if this is due to zerg in general or if this should indicate something about my play.
So I'd like to know, if some of you who play different races have observed something similar.
Poll: Which race you have the highest APM with ?I have a highest APM as Zerg (141) 68% I have a highest APM with my main race (41) 20% I have a highest APM as Terran (12) 6% I have the same APM whatever the race (7) 3% I have a highest APM as Protoss (5) 2% 206 total votes Your vote: Which race you have the highest APM with ? (Vote): I have a highest APM with my main race
(Vote): I have a highest APM as Terran
(Vote): I have a highest APM as Protoss
(Vote): I have a highest APM as Zerg
(Vote): I have the same APM whatever the race
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Russian Federation122 Posts
I am usually playing random. My usual APM with all races is 90. But misteriousely my APM in TvT is usually like 120 (with no reason and only this matchup)
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I find myself with the highest APM whilst playing Zerg aswell, protoss is the one that i have the least amount of APM with, terran close 3rd. Terran tends to have pretty high APM when i play though, cus of harass and so on.
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Random:
95 -> Terran
110 -> Zerg
75 -> Protoss
Most win as protoss :D
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I main Terran and I'm about 130-150 with that race. When I play Z (hoping to get good enough at each race to random on the ladder), I jump up to about 180.
Simply more stuff to do with Zerg.
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I play Terran and Zerg and strangely enough it's higher for Terran. I guess it's because I harass and use alot of heavy micro oriented builds/
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My main race is P, so that is my highest apm. My worst is Z, mostly because I am not fully aware of build orders and have milliseconds of delay as I think of what to do, which all add up after a while.
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my apm as zerg is about 30-40 higher than with the other races
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I play Z as a main race and have APM average around 120, but for me it feels like when i play terran what i do more often recently i need far more APM, and i have checked it, i have 140 average with terran.
For me it feels like terran is far more APM intense than z is, cause you need hotkeys for all production buldings not like z you just have your hatcherys 
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I play terran as my main and sit around 140 apm but when I occasionally play Zerg my apm jumps to about 180, and I'm not even that familiar with the race.
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I believe zerg apm gets huge boosts from the fact that it's so easy to just spam-create units, resulting in massive apm spikes. At least, that's what I've gathered from looking over apm charts of my own games.
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On November 08 2010 23:24 Boundless wrote:
I main Terran and I'm about 130-150 with that race. When I play Z (hoping to get good enough at each race to random on the ladder), I jump up to about 180.
Simply more stuff to do with Zerg.
haha, wow I guess I'm not the only one =P
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i find i get around 100 as terran, 120 as zerg and probably close to 130-140 as toss.
It seems like I micro a LOT more with terran, so my macro slips and my APM drops, and I'm really good with my chrono boosts or larva with the other races.
Also, I find warpgates boost my APM as well
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I play as random, and I get the most APM as zerg. Terran and Protoss have about the same APM, until late game or if I'm doing certain things (i.e. advancing tank lines with mech play). Then, normally Terran has more APM due to my love of Ravens, unless I went for HT before Colossi. Spellcasters shoot up my APM more than other options.
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I could be wrong, but if I recall correctly. Every time you tell a group of units an order, that equals to the # of units in that group actions. So if you have a ball of 30 zerglings, and right click that equates to 30 actions. (Although redundant actions are not included, such as if the pathing of the unit is not altered) So it is much more common to have high numbers of Zerg units in a control group than it is for other races. This results in a higher APM.
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On November 08 2010 23:33 Jackle wrote:
I could be wrong, but if I recall correctly. Every time you tell a group of units an order, that equals to the # of units in that group actions. So if you have a ball of 30 zerglings, and right click that equates to 30 actions. (Although redundant actions are not included, such as if the pathing of the unit is not altered) So it is much more common to have high numbers of Zerg units in a control group than it is for other races. This results in a higher APM.
Nope, telling a group to move is 1 action.
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On November 08 2010 23:33 Jackle wrote:
I could be wrong, but if I recall correctly. Every time you tell a group of units an order, that equals to the # of units in that group actions. So if you have a ball of 30 zerglings, and right click that equates to 30 actions. (Although redundant actions are not included, such as if the pathing of the unit is not altered) So it is much more common to have high numbers of Zerg units in a control group than it is for other races. This results in a higher APM.
It doesn't matter how much units are in a group. One group action = one action.
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On November 08 2010 23:33 Jackle wrote:
I could be wrong, but if I recall correctly. Every time you tell a group of units an order, that equals to the # of units in that group actions. So if you have a ball of 30 zerglings, and right click that equates to 30 actions. (Although redundant actions are not included, such as if the pathing of the unit is not altered) So it is much more common to have high numbers of Zerg units in a control group than it is for other races. This results in a higher APM.
This is wrong, otherwise my APM as Zerg would be... well, over 9000 i guess. I have a ton of speedlings in most Zerg games.
Most actions are counted, the only actions that seem to not be counted are those without result, for example trying to build zerglings a hundred times without larva doesn't count.
On Topic:
Terran: ~65
Protoss: ~70
Zerg: ~80-90
Might be because i play far more aggressive with zerg, my harassing mutalisks don't get a single second to rest their wings.
I know it's low APM, but hey, i'm almost as old as WhiteRa, i'm allowed to be slow.
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I have about the same numbers as OP, 80 as zerg, 60 as protoss (my strongest race), and with terran a whopping...40 (because I'm an aweful, aweful terran).
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My highest is with Terran... probably due to the fact it is my main race. However, I think if I were to switch to zerg I would eventually have higher apm with Zerg
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zerg. it's usually higher because i just hold down buttons like d and z to spam units. i don't do that as often with terran
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Yup, Zerg usually (unless I'm playing completely all out and going into my current highest APM possible) takes a lot more APM. When in a slightly competitive state, like trying to beat a friend, my average with T and P will be 70-80 most of the time, while my Z usually is at 70-80 by the midgame but is nearing 100 by the lategame.
Honestly it does seem a bit unfair for Zerg to have to "require" more APM, unless I am missing something important here when comparing APM requirements for the races. I guess it's balanced out because T and P need to harass/drop more and stuff? Hm
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150~ Protoss
150~ Terran
160~ Zerg
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I have a higest with Zerg, as it is my main race. Hoever, I think I keep relatively close with all races...
Zerg (queen injects and spawning units) > Terran (make 6 rax, 1 fact, and a starport and make units) > Protoss (warp in units)
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I noticed my highest APM is with Zerg, even though I would consider my main race Terran
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APM is biaised for zerg because when for example you morph 30 zergling into 30 baneling just holding the apporpriate key ( only "one" action, your APM as calculated by sc2 software will jump to 300-500 .(At least that is what i get when i tried it)
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I play random. On even my best protoss games I never break 75 (and as soon as I actually bother to get my 25 1v1 random win Icon I'm going to stay protoss). But as zerg I can get as high as 90-100 for the whole game.
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My Z apm is the highetst but Z is also my main race so I dont know if it's that accurate.
I had higher apm as Z in bw too followed by P and then T.
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I play Z so...
average APM is just north of 80
battle APM average is 180-200
I broke 500 today, multiple times. I was going through a replay of a game I played this morning and seriously WTFd face when I saw that. But that's when I was producing units spamming U and Z as hard as I could trying to reload my army.
Toss APM is a touch lower. Terran APM is lol.
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~20 protoss
~25 zerg
~25 terran
And to everyone who thinks zerg takes more APM and causes your aPM to be higher as zerg, you're just falling to the placebo affect. It doesn't. Zerg takes has fewer required actions than the other 2 races. Anything you're doing to increase your APM as zerg is completely voluntary and could be applied to protoss or terran.
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CruiseR
Poland4014 Posts
protoss around 140
zerg ~160
terran ~180
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Terran ~120
Protoss ~120
Zerg ~180
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Zerg: 75-90
Terran: 5
Protoss: 5
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anywhere between 80 and 120 as zerg,
dont play other races
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You're suggesting that zerg takes more "apm" to play. Which means, you're suggesting zerg is harder to play. Unless of course you're just spamming with zerg.
I think each race is equal.
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z always been highest due to me using them in bw.
My apm goes wayyy higher in zvz as well because im always spamming that good old muta hotkey again something i picked up from bw.
Man talking about this just makes me miss sniping scourge
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Zerg 200ish
Terran 170
Protoss 150ish
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On November 08 2010 23:28 Irritation wrote:I play Z as a main race and have APM average around 120, but for me it feels like when i play terran what i do more often recently i need far more APM, and i have checked it, i have 140 average with terran. For me it feels like terran is far more APM intense than z is, cause you need hotkeys for all production buldings not like z you just have your hatcherys
Well when you select 30+ larva and make all lings by holding down Z, it counts as like 500 apm... That and the production buildings (along with hateries) can and should be all on the same keybind
OT: Zerg is my main race... And so far, I've been climbing and am about 160-180 each game (1700 diamond)
I play Protoss sometimes in like 4v4 where it seems like 100, but not as crazy as Zerg
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About the same. I gash about 160 APM for each race. Possibly slightly more with zerg. Injection larvae and all I guess takes a little more APM overall, but zerg takes less APM in the fights.
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With zerg 175~
With terran 140~
Zerg is my main race on ladder but i still play terran from time to time.
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France3385 Posts
Yea i mostly play random too and my APM as Zerg is indeed higher... iguess it because when you build unit you click a lot of larvas at once (more than there are gateways for instance, to have a comparison)
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Highest with zerg.
This is because I fall under the 1a syndrome.
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United States22883 Posts
This is just a low content poll thread. We don't do those here.
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