EPTIn case of revealing rumor, I will be sued for defamation in Korea.
I will re-post after investigation.
And also there were so many mistakes in grammar and spellings.
if any Kor-Eng bilingual here, please post accurate translation.
즐겨찢기.Werra claimed that he had been sexually ..
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wonkyu
Korea (South)6 Posts
In case of revealing rumor, I will be sued for defamation in Korea. I will re-post after investigation. And also there were so many mistakes in grammar and spellings. if any Kor-Eng bilingual here, please post accurate translation. | ||
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mapthesoul
Trinidad/Tobago429 Posts
julgyochakkiwerra justfakewerra augustwerra protosswerra soundwerra rainwerra sopiawerra dongraeguwerra doswera suzywerra frozenwerra gracewerra ryungwerra | ||
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Canada1177 Posts
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NuKedUFirst
Canada3139 Posts
Hope cella and phoenix are okay! | ||
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tieya
United States308 Posts
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AyJay
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explains why there are 1000 Members in this clan | ||
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Spain3256 Posts
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Welmu
Finland3295 Posts
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Logros
Netherlands9913 Posts
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Grettin
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sammler
United Kingdom381 Posts
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Ysorigin
United States82 Posts
So what are the chances that Werra still exists in a month or so then? I can't imagine many people at all that would want to work with a guy like this. | ||
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RumZ
United States956 Posts
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mapthesoul
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hilligeN
Germany8 Posts
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delloR
United States57 Posts
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XiGua
Sweden3085 Posts
CellaWerra get out of there! D: | ||
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France8043 Posts
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Xxavi
United States1248 Posts
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optical630
United Kingdom768 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:03 mapthesoul wrote: List of players that have left: julgyochakkiwerra justfakewerra augustwerra protosswerra soundwerra rainwerra sopiawerra dongraeguwerra doswera suzywerra frozenwerra gracewerra ryungwerra cellawerra hasnt left?! | ||
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nayumi
Australia6499 Posts
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lazyfeet
United States468 Posts
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MrSexington
United States1768 Posts
1) WTF. 2) Serious? | ||
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United States1625 Posts
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Pibacc
Canada545 Posts
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Piledriver
United States1697 Posts
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ZidaneTribal
United States2800 Posts
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Ikkuh
Netherlands170 Posts
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ZaaaaaM
Netherlands1828 Posts
Who's the player he's talking about? | ||
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Klamity
United States994 Posts
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Alou
United States3748 Posts
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England187 Posts
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Canada71 Posts
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koOma
Norway462 Posts
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Hazuc
Canada471 Posts
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froGGifyre
United States213 Posts
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smekz
Portugal503 Posts
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NuKedUFirst
Canada3139 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:08 JoshSuth wrote: All I can say is... how the Hell do 10+ progamers all around the same age not mention this to each other and decide the guy is a creep? My thoughts exactly. What the fuck. I'd leave the team ASAP. Tell everyone else to leave. Start a new team called ArreW and not let Gundam in it. | ||
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Full.tilt
United Kingdom1709 Posts
edit: On October 24 2010 02:09 TheSs wrote: Holy check Made me laugh way too much. (Long time Cella stream watcher) | ||
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HollowLord
United States3862 Posts
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MetalSlug
Germany443 Posts
Stuff like this shouldnt happen. i hope that Gundam.Werra get sued to death for this. | ||
Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
Seriously messed up behavior by that guy =[ | ||
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qoiN
Sweden576 Posts
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Unreg
181 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:07 Ysorigin wrote: Wow So what are the chances that Werra still exists in a month or so then? I can't imagine many people at all that would want to work with a guy like this. if this is true , with this manager...arround 0.01% chances | ||
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RaptorZ
United States155 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:10 Liquid`Jinro wrote: Wasnt entirely sure I had understood the oGs guys correctly when they told me about this but I guess I did. Seriously messed up way to go about it. WTF it was somewhat common knowledge? Maybe this happens a lot more than we hear about... | ||
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robertdinh
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Deleted User 3420
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koOma
Norway462 Posts
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Hazuc
Canada471 Posts
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wishbones
Canada2600 Posts
when i saw that last line i rofl'd pretty hard, guy has like issues seriously, just use it on yourself for christ sakes, only reason people will go that far is lack of sexual attention in their own time. or with women etc.. it's human nature, but sadly the bad part of human nature. | ||
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HCastorp
United States388 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:10 Liquid`Jinro wrote: Wasnt entirely sure I had understood the oGs guys correctly when they told me about this but I guess I did. Seriously messed up way to go about it. What is the "it" you are referring to? | ||
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sOvrn
United States678 Posts
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DJay_
United States103 Posts
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Zeno
United States40 Posts
WOWWWWW | ||
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Liveon
Netherlands1083 Posts
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FliedLice
Germany7494 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:11 Unreg wrote: if this is true , with this manager...arround 0.01% chances look at the list of players who left, there can't be that many in the team anymore anyway.. but seriously... wow. | ||
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Accer
Korea (South)319 Posts
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RumZ
United States956 Posts
What is wrong with this idiot? Who else did he mess around with? i doubt this was his first.. attempt.. at this. On October 24 2010 02:13 Accer wrote: As terrible and disgusting as this whole thing is, I'm very surprised it hasn't happened before. In a way, it's the "perfect" situation for a pedophile because your surrounded by young boys who have sacrificed everything to be apart of the pro-gaming world and who rely on their managers/ teams to compete. I'd bet money that this has happened before, but not been made public before. | ||
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MrSexington
United States1768 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:10 Liquid`Jinro wrote: Wasnt entirely sure I had understood the oGs guys correctly when they told me about this but I guess I did. Seriously messed up way to go about it. I'm not sure I understand. Are you saying it's messed up the information came out on a blog? | ||
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
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Xadar
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RoarMan
Canada745 Posts
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delloR
United States57 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:08 JoshSuth wrote: All I can say is... how the Hell do 10+ progamers all around the same age not mention this to each other and decide the guy is a creep? Probably because no one wants to say they got molested. Thats not really something I think anyone would want to talk about to others. | ||
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epicopter
Canada177 Posts
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Welmu
Finland3295 Posts
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Klamity
United States994 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:12 FliedLice wrote: look at the list of players who left, there can't be that many in the team anymore anyway.. but seriously... wow. you underestimate the size of the werra clan.  but seriously, this is the end for them. i feel bad for the kids that sacrificed so much, but they entered the world knowing it would be difficult. i hope they find another clan. | ||
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Full.tilt
United Kingdom1709 Posts
Not even dinner and dancing first. | ||
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Sweden36 Posts
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Maggeus
France277 Posts
I hope the others are safe from this... Insanity. | ||
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Polygamy
Austria1114 Posts
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tok
United States691 Posts
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sammler
United Kingdom381 Posts
![[image loading]](http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/4471/alagsl3.jpg) Think he's the guy in the middle. | ||
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Punkstar
Slovakia522 Posts
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Aylear
Norway3988 Posts
Yeah, it seems unlikely that Werra will be around for much longer. Damn. | ||
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wonkyu
Korea (South)6 Posts
and also gundam's blog too. and When victim's realized that Gundam was unzipping his pants, he asked to Gundam "whats problem?" and Gundam said to him "nothing special." so he doesnt think it seriously.. before the event (found open lists) | ||
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Ocedic
United States1808 Posts
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Ayush_SCtoss
India3050 Posts
Get out of there Cella! This whole thing is disgusting and sad. These people quit school for this and now they have to quit | ||
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AskJoshy
United States1625 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:13 delloR wrote: Probably because no one wants to say they got molested. Thats not really something I think anyone would want to talk about to others. But none of them got physically raped (hopefully). If my new boss was making moves on me, I would at least ask my co-workers if the guy was gay. | ||
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Philip2110
Scotland798 Posts
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wishbones
Canada2600 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:13 delloR wrote: Probably because no one wants to say they got molested. Thats not really something I think anyone would want to talk about to others. that and they arent north american or from europe, i know as for me by the time i was 10, i was a pretty bad ass kid, so i mean.. shit like that happened here he would have had a knife up at his kneck, but in korea im sure they are not as violent in nature as we are/can be. | ||
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Slow Motion
United States6960 Posts
It's pretty tough if the kids quit high school and don't have many options, and this guy is taking advantage of that (sex isn't the only way this could happen, another guy might take advantage of them economically). Someone's really gotta step in here and try to protect these kids. I hope older players like Boxer and NaDa take some initiative in this. | ||
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bRuTaL!!
Finland588 Posts
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teacash
Canada494 Posts
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SoL[9]
Portugal1370 Posts
Disgusting... | ||
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shannn
Netherlands2891 Posts
I don't read Cella and Phoenix on that list but the clan will probably be disbanded very soon (I hope so). | ||
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Nillinch
Poland147 Posts
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Hazuc
Canada471 Posts
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Zakka
Netherlands762 Posts
terrible... | ||
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vyyye
Sweden3917 Posts
Goddamn, that's so fucked. | ||
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SoJu.WeRRa
Korea (South)820 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:03 mapthesoul wrote: List of players that have left: julgyochakkiwerra justfakewerra augustwerra protosswerra soundwerra rainwerra sopiawerra dongraeguwerra doswera suzywerra frozenwerra gracewerra ryungwerra I left too. I will join a new clan soon. | ||
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DreamOen
Spain1400 Posts
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TheDrill
Russian Federation145 Posts
Maybe this is somehow good publicity for sc2 because there is no such thing as bad publicity? | ||
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AskJoshy
United States1625 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:19 vyyye wrote: I guess Artosis wasn't off the makr when he said Werra only use 'gay strategies'. Uh, that's unsettling and even weirder considering Werra is the biggest (correct me if I'm wrong) progaming team in Korea at the moment. Goddamn, that's so fucked. I think ZeNex is the largest right now. Zenith and NEX merged just so they could boast that they have the most players in the GSL. =P | ||
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Roggay
Switzerland6320 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:19 SoJu.WeRRa wrote: I left too. I will join a new clan soon. Good idea, gotta change that TL name now. | ||
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Zeno
United States40 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:19 SoJu.WeRRa wrote: I left too. I will join a new clan soon. Do you know of anything else going on in this? Has Cella also left? | ||
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some_pro
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Alou
United States3748 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:19 SoJu.WeRRa wrote: I left too. I will join a new clan soon. Good. Hope everything works out for you. | ||
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SiegeFlank
United States410 Posts
Hopefully the free name change comes out soon so that they can all remove werra from their names. | ||
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MrSexington
United States1768 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:19 SoJu.WeRRa wrote: I left too. I will join a new clan soon. Please make sure to try and persuade everyone else to quit too. No one deserves to be in that situation. | ||
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HeIios
Sweden2523 Posts
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Poyo
Canada790 Posts
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Chaosvuistje
Netherlands2581 Posts
.Get your hamburgers and get out of there Cella! We need you to check another day! | ||
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wishbones
Canada2600 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:19 SoJu.WeRRa wrote: I left too. I will join a new clan soon. theres another werra post. | ||
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SoJu.WeRRa
Korea (South)820 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:16 sammler wrote: Think he's the guy in the middle. Yes this is the guy in the middle.. our ex coach. I'm on the left, and on the right this 생컨웨라. (SengCun WeRRa) I left WeRRa too. Join another clan soon. | ||
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Boundz(DarKo)
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QuXn
Germany71 Posts
srsly tho, tho soju.werra, GET CELLA OUT OF THERE!°! | ||
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Full.tilt
United Kingdom1709 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:18 MrKozi wrote: I hope no one gonna try to rape Jinro, TLO and rest TL guys. Watch your backs guys! Have you seen their pictures? | ||
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Qikz
United Kingdom12022 Posts
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OmniscientSC2
United States713 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:21 SoJu.WeRRa wrote: Yes this is the guy in the middle.. our ex coach. I'm on the left, and on the right this 생컨웨라. (SengCun WeRRa) I left WeRRa too. Join another clan soon. Good luck on finding a new clan. I'm sorry to hear about this | ||
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United States1401 Posts
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MLG_Wiggin
United States767 Posts
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MaDBread
Germany66 Posts
i feel really bad that i lol about this... and yeah thats just creepy | ||
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floor exercise
Canada5847 Posts
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emythrel
United Kingdom2599 Posts
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Devlin
Sweden91 Posts
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NuKedUFirst
Canada3139 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:18 MrKozi wrote: I hope no one gonna try to rape Jinro, TLO and rest TL guys. Watch your backs guys! .. I'm not sure if your post was serious or not but oGs is ran by Spunky who everyone seems to be friends with. It is kind of disgusting of you to say that on the Teamliquid forums. The odds of getting raped aren't very high anywhere. Shit does happen though. | ||
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:18 Hazu~ wrote: is that...the korean version pedobear XDDD sorry. what i mean is, there is no child protection law in SK? | ||
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HeIios
Sweden2523 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:21 SoJu.WeRRa wrote: Yes this is the guy in the middle.. our ex coach. I'm on the left, and on the right this 생컨웨라. (SengCun WeRRa) I left WeRRa too. Join another clan soon. Good luck, best wishes to all other people in the werra clan in their next venture. | ||
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Epoch
Canada257 Posts
Hide yo wife... And hide your werra clan members, cause hes rapin everybody out there. | ||
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SoJu.WeRRa
Korea (South)820 Posts
I really hope everybody will try to find good clan. I really hope TL community will keep supporting players you like etc... | ||
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Pibacc
Canada545 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:24 BurningSera wrote: is that...the korean version pedobear XDDD sorry. what i mean is, there is no child protection law in SK? That's the sexual harassment panda from a south park episode | ||
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jongim
Canada289 Posts
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United States213 Posts
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Full.tilt
United Kingdom1709 Posts
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vesicular
United States1310 Posts
Good on the Werra players quitting the clan. We all fully support you. I hope this douchebag coach gets what he deserves. | ||
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Slow Motion
United States6960 Posts
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Roggay
Switzerland6320 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:23 NuKedUFirst wrote: .. I'm not sure if your post was serious or not but oGs is ran by Spunky who everyone seems to be friends with. It is kind of disgusting of you to say that on the Teamliquid forums. The odds of getting raped aren't very high anywhere. Shit does happen though. Well they are not kids, they know how to defend themselves anyway. | ||
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some_pro
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Etra
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Genzo
Denmark207 Posts
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LittLeD
Sweden7973 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:19 SoJu.WeRRa wrote: I left too. I will join a new clan soon. Best of Luck SoJu. Hope this get resolved and some sort of justice is provided | ||
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XothermeK
United Arab Emirates245 Posts
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Garnet
Vietnam9021 Posts
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Quanticfograw
United States2053 Posts
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Antoine
United States7481 Posts
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MLG_Wiggin
United States767 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:24 SoJu.WeRRa wrote: Yeah... all WeRRa players and I are really sad about it. I really hope everybody will try to find good clan. I really hope TL community will keep supporting players you like etc... Some people are cracking jokes in the thread, but don't worry, everyone wants to see you guys succeed. | ||
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Ation
Finland102 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:23 emythrel wrote: i am utterly disgusted by those who have made jokes in this thread, even if these alligations turned out to be untrue..... its no laughing matter. Humor is the best medicine, sometimes  . | ||
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NuKedUFirst
Canada3139 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:26 some_pro wrote: He didn't try to rape him, he just did a move on him... Chill out Did you read the OP? He started unzipping his pants and had lub on the table and shit. Thats just a "move"? | ||
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Slow Motion
United States6960 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:26 some_pro wrote: He didn't try to rape him, he just did a move on him... Chill out Are you fucking serious? This was, from what I could tell, a young kid. The manager was someone in a position of power over him. The manager waited until this kid was asleep to try to unzip his pants. If this isn't classic sexual harassment I don't know what is. And who knows how for it would have gone if the kid didn't wake up in time? | ||
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Chaosvuistje
Netherlands2581 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:26 some_pro wrote: He didn't try to rape him, he just did a move on him... Chill out He tried to make a move on him, while UNZIPPING his pants. On top of that, the guy is an adult while the werra members are teenagers. It doesn't matter that he didn't rape him. Its still a sick situation to be in. | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:24 SoJu.WeRRa wrote: Yeah... all WeRRa players and I are really sad about it. I really hope everybody will try to find good clan. I really hope TL community will keep supporting players you like etc... im pretty sure tl loves the werra players except not your manager | ||
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Netherlands684 Posts
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United States549 Posts
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Etra
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The Stapler
United States326 Posts
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Full.tilt
United Kingdom1709 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:28 NuKedUFirst wrote: Did you read the OP? He started unzipping his pants and had lub on the table and shit. Thats just a "move"? Players need to rest their hands and wrists after long gaming sessions. | ||
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Grettin
42381 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:19 SoJu.WeRRa wrote: I left too. I will join a new clan soon. Dude, you must take Cella out of this shit too. Congrats for your new clan though. | ||
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cyprin
United States1105 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:29 Etra wrote: although this sounds bad, can you really know if this is 100% true? Seriously think about it, that kid could of made that accusation for some reason we might never know. and if he is gay, maybe he did try and make an attempt to recieve a response from him, but how do we know this guy didnt just sugar coat what really happened? maybe he does not like gay people so he said he unzipped shit and got oil... nice try, gundamwerra | ||
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kataa
United Kingdom384 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:26 Etra wrote: although this sounds bad, can you really know if this is 100% true? Seriously think about it, that kid could of made that accusation for some reason we might never know. and if he is gay, maybe he did try and make an attempt to recieve and response from him, but how do we know this guy didnt just sugar coat what really happened? maybe he does not like gay people so he asid he unzipped shit and got oil... Step #1 Quit school, practice hard at SC2 - join clan Step #2 Accuse coach of sexual harassment ???? Profit! Not likely, seriously, if you use that kind of logic you'd end up beliving Hitler is still living in Argentina, or 9/11 was a conspiracy. It's sadly, very common in competitive sports for coaches to try and use their position of authority to extort sexual favours from players in order to further there career. In happens in sports, acting, music, and appearently in esports too. | ||
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SuperGnu
Sweden240 Posts
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Hazuc
Canada471 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:30 SuperGnu wrote: Time for me to start a Pro female gaming house in korea! The possibilities are huge! I lol'd. | ||
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Woony
Germany6657 Posts
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Ygz
England370 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:26 some_pro wrote: He didn't try to rape him, he just did a move on him... Chill out Move? Wow. Imagine if that kid had woken up with his manager chomping on his cock, some move eh? Seriously though, FUCKED UP SHIT YO! Is this him, on the right? ![[image loading]](http://www.tatazu.com/n/attachments/2010/07/18680_201007202233292SZgg.jpg) | ||
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kasumimi
Greece460 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:28 RotterdaM wrote: hahahahaha , i found it funny, ofcourse the whole situation isnt funny but I laughed at the unzipping my pants, are u gay? no. hahahahha , anyway I hope everyone is oke ofcourse You should re-evaluate your perspective and sense of humor imo :< The only funny thing about this thread is "I bet his favorite map is Blistering Sands". | ||
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ronok
United Kingdom15 Posts
Good luck to all of you! Hwaiting! | ||
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some_pro
120 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:28 Chaosvuistje wrote: He tried to make a move on him, while UNZIPPING his pants. On top of that, the guy is an adult while the werra members are teenagers. It doesn't matter that he didn't rape him. Its still a sick situation to be in. It's kind of weird I'll admit, but the manager shouldn't have any legal problem because of it. | ||
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HuskyBear
United States44 Posts
We got your clan members quitting on you, you are so dumb, you are really dumb for real. | ||
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Holcan
Canada2593 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:32 kasumimi wrote: You should re-evaluate your perspective and sense of humor imo :< The only funny thing about this thread is "I bet his favorite map is Blistering Sands". lol, dont get to offended now. I'd totally let him suck me off for a sc2 contract. | ||
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risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
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wonkyu
Korea (South)6 Posts
sorry again and let me know if u have questions. I will reply after a ladder game | ||
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Slow Motion
United States6960 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:32 some_pro wrote: It's kind of weird I'll admit, but the manager shouldn't have any legal problem because of it. So you're fine with adults unzipping little kids while they're sleeping? Good to know. I certainly feel sorry for your nephews. | ||
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Cpadolf
Sweden1199 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:02 wonkyu wrote: Suddenly I awoke with a jolt. he was unziping my pants I was so surprised and asked him "are you gay?" and he said "no" and then, I tried to open the GOM TV movie program(GSL streamer) for watch GSL, I saw the open lists. there was so many gay porns and I demanded to him go out in here. As shocking and disturbing this is, there is just something inherently hilarious about the progression and wording here. Hope that everything will work out fine for all the players, and that this is the last story of this kind we will hear. Not exactly a smashing start for the SC2 pro scene. | ||
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Aegeis
United States1619 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:24 Epoch wrote: Hide yo kids... Hide yo wife... And hide your werra clan members, cause hes rapin everybody out there. I laughed soo hard Anyways wow this is bad, best of luck to the rest of the Ex-Werra crew | ||
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Node
United States2159 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:26 some_pro wrote: He didn't try to rape him, he just did a move on him... Chill out He's making constant sexual advances on people that clearly want no part of it. It's not rape, but it's a huge case of sexual harassment and abuse. That doesn't mean it isn't a horrible, horrible thing to hear of and have to deal with. I feel sorry for all the Werra folks. Living in a constant state of fear about what their coach, who's supposed to be there to support and assist and these kids, must be a terrible environment to live in. Seriously, I don't know if you guys realize just how huge these allegations are, but it's a big deal. Werra is as good as dead. | ||
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United States691 Posts
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Minx[Shield]
65 Posts
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MLG_Wiggin
United States767 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:33 wonkyu wrote: Too many members of TL confused by my post. because of my terrible English writting. sorry again and let me know if u have questions. I will reply after a ladder game Thank you for the post. I think everyone understands what happened, but some people have a different sense of humor and don't understand that jokes in the thread are probably somewhat inappropriate given that WeRRa members read the site. | ||
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Etra
81 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:30 kataa wrote: Step #1 Quit school, practice hard at SC2 - join clan Step #2 Accuse coach of sexual harassment ???? Profit! Not likely, seriously, if you use that kind of logic you'd end up beliving Hitler is still living in Argentina, or 9/11 was a conspiracy. It's sadly, very common in competitive sports for coaches to try and use their position of authority to extort sexual favours from players in order to further there career. In happens in sports, acting, music, and appearently in esports too. Whats sad is that you believe everything posted on the internet. Why did hitler kill people? because hes fucked up and stupid. humans are stupid, there's always people who do shit with no explanation. | ||
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SoJu.WeRRa
Korea (South)820 Posts
Right now everybody is talking on ZeroIRC (its like miRC but with Korean stuff etc). I know TL community loves korean players, especially Cella. So I will keep in touch with TL community and I will tell you guys who is going to join which clan etc... It will take time but I will let you know guys. Thanks for supporting us, we are in kinda hard time right now | ||
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Soap
Brazil1546 Posts
![[image loading]](http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3443/3195181441_24fa6712cd_o.jpg) Seriously though, best of wishes to the WeRRa guys and hope they go to worthy teams. | ||
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JoeCrow
United States167 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:29 bjwithbraces wrote: Werra all these ppl gonna go? lol. Strangest SC2 story of the year. | ||
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Deadlyfish
Denmark1980 Posts
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1Eris1
United States5797 Posts
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Pibacc
Canada545 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:36 SoJu.WeRRa wrote: We are really shocking. Right now everybody is talking on ZeroIRC (its like miRC but with Korean stuff etc). I know TL community loves korean players, especially Cella. So I will keep in touch with TL community and I will tell you guys who is going to join which clan etc... It will take time but I will let you know guys. Thanks for supporting us, we are in kinda hard time right now How's the guy that wrote the blog doing? hopefully this doesn't ruin him emotionally. | ||
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xBillehx
United States1289 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:36 SoJu.WeRRa wrote: We are really shocking. Right now everybody is talking on ZeroIRC (its like miRC but with Korean stuff etc). I know TL community loves korean players, especially Cella. So I will keep in touch with TL community and I will tell you guys who is going to join which clan etc... It will take time but I will let you know guys. Thanks for supporting us, we are in kinda hard time right now Thanks for the updates and I hope you guys get resolved in a nice clan/team. We'll still cheer you on just the same so dont worry we love you guys! | ||
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Hazuc
Canada471 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:36 SoJu.WeRRa wrote: We are really shocking. Right now everybody is talking on ZeroIRC (its like miRC but with Korean stuff etc). I know TL community loves korean players, especially Cella. So I will keep in touch with TL community and I will tell you guys who is going to join which clan etc... It will take time but I will let you know guys. Thanks for supporting us, we are in kinda hard time right now Thank you so much Soju, we really appreciate it and good luck to you guys. : ) | ||
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Antoine
United States7481 Posts
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crms
United States11933 Posts
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Prixm
Sweden145 Posts
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Zealotdriver
United States1557 Posts
Best wishes to the Werra players. | ||
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JohnnyYen
United States313 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:36 SoJu.WeRRa wrote: + Show Spoiler + We are really shocking. Right now everybody is talking on ZeroIRC (its like miRC but with Korean stuff etc). I know TL community loves korean players, especially Cella. So I will keep in touch with TL community and I will tell you guys who is going to join which clan etc... It will take time but I will let you know guys. Thanks for supporting us, we are in kinda hard time right now GL to you all. Sorry for BM posts in this thread. | ||
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VampireLady
Netherlands283 Posts
 beaten.. | ||
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Frunkis
United States146 Posts
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Scruff
Singapore509 Posts
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FrostOtter
United States537 Posts
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Etra
81 Posts
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mikeymoo
Canada7170 Posts
Best wishes to all the Werra guys, extremely sad to hear this happen. | ||
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KinosJourney2
Sweden1811 Posts
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VampireLady
Netherlands283 Posts
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VampireLady
Netherlands283 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:47 Etra wrote: I doubt this is 100% true, sugar coated to make this "gay" guy seem like a creep. Looks like someone does not like gay guys. Before allof you make accusations, think that you might be runing someones life here. U doubt its true? his pic says it all.. ;d i mean those glassES? that pose.. definitely gay. | ||
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DeltaforceX
Belgium15 Posts
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SuperGnu
Sweden240 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:36 SoJu.WeRRa wrote: We are really shocking. Right now everybody is talking on ZeroIRC (its like miRC but with Korean stuff etc). I know TL community loves korean players, especially Cella. So I will keep in touch with TL community and I will tell you guys who is going to join which clan etc... It will take time but I will let you know guys. Thanks for supporting us, we are in kinda hard time right now I hope you can get a new team asap and that you(not you personaly but everyone that was abused by this guy) press charges against the guy. | ||
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bokchoi
Korea (South)9498 Posts
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
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Skullflower
United States3779 Posts
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teamsolid
Canada3668 Posts
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Etra
81 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:49 MisS_Suna wrote: U doubt its true? his pic says it all.. ;d i mean those glassES? that pose.. definitely gay. I am not doubting he is gay, learn to read first. and from your post I can definetly tell you do not like gay people. hum......maybe the guy who made the accusation does not either? | ||
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vesicular
United States1310 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:47 Etra wrote: I doubt this is 100% true, sugar coated to make this "gay" guy seem like a creep. Looks like someone does not like gay guys. Before allof you make accusations, think that you might be runing someones life here. He is in a position of power and tried to sexually assault someone while they were sleeping. Whether he was gay or not doesn't matter, the guy is a douchebag and gets what he deserves. | ||
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dacthehork
United States2000 Posts
So just take that in mind when making jokes etc. This is just the person who came forward, there are probably some who didn't and had it worse. | ||
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MLG_Wiggin
United States767 Posts
I really don't understand the sentiment that this was somehow an 'anti-gay' story. Regardless of the genders this would be inappropriate. | ||
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FrostOtter
United States537 Posts
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dacthehork
United States2000 Posts
and someone testify that Gundam raped me "I was so scared to report him because of disadvantage" guys again keep in mind it wasn't just an attempt, he has been around a while and probably abused multiple people over that time | ||
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GagnarTheUnruly
United States655 Posts
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VampireLady
Netherlands283 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:51 Etra wrote: I am not doubting he is gay, learn to read first. and from your post I can definetly tell you do not like gay people. hum......maybe the guy who made the accusation does not either? No smoke without fire.. + he is most likely gay makes the possibly of this being true very likely.. also i dont think its case where u can actually " press charges" for the fact he made a move.. As for not liking gays.. my best friend is gay and i love him dearly so pls?.. ;d also i love Will & Grace <3 | ||
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_Darwin_
United States2374 Posts
i dont think its case where u can actually " press charges" for the fact he made a move.. Yes, it's called sexual assault. | ||
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Slow Motion
United States6960 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:54 _Darwin_ wrote: I didn't know Gundam was Catholic. HAHAHAHAHHA. | ||
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Etra
81 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:51 vesicular wrote: He is in a position of power and tried to sexually assault someone while they were sleeping. Whether he was gay or not doesn't matter, the guy is a douchebag and gets what he deserves. You obviously do not understand my point of view. How many cases have there been of a girl "apparently" being raped by a guy. just because a girl screams rape does not mean its true. | ||
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HeIios
Sweden2523 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:55 Etra wrote: You obviously do not understand my point of view. How many cases have there been of a girl "apparently" being raped by a guy. just because a girl screams rape does not mean its true. [edit] retarded trolls dont deserve fuel to fire their trolling | ||
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VampireLady
Netherlands283 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:54 _Darwin_ wrote: I didn't know Gundam was Catholic. Yes, it's called sexual assault. LOLLLLLZ <3 | ||
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FrostOtter
United States537 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:54 _Darwin_ wrote: I didn't know Gundam was Catholic. I am. What about it? | ||
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some_pro
120 Posts
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Etra
81 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:56 HeIios wrote: [edit] retarded trolls dont deserve fuel to fire their trolling Now I think you are even more retarded? have you been to school or watched the news in North America? | ||
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DeltaforceX
Belgium15 Posts
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teamsolid
Canada3668 Posts
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VampireLady
Netherlands283 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:54 _Darwin_ wrote: I didn't know Gundam was Catholic. Yes, it's called sexual assault. I know but still if women pressed charges at anyone who tried to make a move .. There would donal trumps everywhere~ | ||
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NuKedUFirst
Canada3139 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:59 teamsolid wrote: Is this the same Gundam that made the Gundam rush in BW? Nope. Different guy I believe. Alot of the WeRRa players came from WCIII. | ||
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_vladimir_
Serbia530 Posts
I'm really sad to hear that, Werra is one of biggest if not biggest SC 2 clan, and even tho they maybe didn't put results in GSL as some others did, they have alot of potential, and i really hope they will manage to find some solution how to move on from this awfull situation... | ||
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Slow Motion
United States6960 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:59 teamsolid wrote: Is this the same Gundam that made the Gundam rush in BW? Nope. Also fuck this manager guy for tainting the Gundam name. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/V-Gundam | ||
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shieldbreak
United States406 Posts
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Titusmaster6
United States5937 Posts
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vesicular
United States1310 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:55 Etra wrote: You obviously do not understand my point of view. How many cases have there been of a girl "apparently" being raped by a guy. just because a girl screams rape does not mean its true. Most of the time however it is. And most of the time rape victims never come forward because they are scared of retaliation, the same as was said in the OP here. If you want to keep going on about "well technically it might not be true" fine, but I'm willing to believe that people like Soju, Jinro and the rest of the players disbanding from the clan are much more informed about this than some random forum poster. | ||
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_Darwin_
United States2374 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:59 MisS_Suna wrote: I know but still if women pressed charges at anyone who tried to make a move .. There would donal trumps everywhere~ Did you read the story? He made an advance which was rejected, then the manager tried to rape him after he baited him into sleeping. It wasn't like a wink or "youre cute" or something. | ||
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Etra
81 Posts
On October 24 2010 03:00 _vladimir_ wrote: For people who still wonder is that true or not, please read all pages instead of randomly answering, even Jinpro who we sure can trust, said that members of oGs, told him about that. So, this was quite know, even outside Werra Clan. I'm really sad to hear that, Werra is one of biggest if not biggest SC 2 clan, and even tho they maybe didn't put results in GSL as some others did, they have alot of potential, and i really hope they will manage to find some solution how to move on from this awfull situation... Dominio effect. Guy screams sexual assualt, eventually spreads to everyone. How can you tell if he is telling the truth. | ||
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:59 teamsolid wrote: Is this the same Gundam that made the Gundam rush in BW? Different guy, although this one could very well become famous for his "Gundam Rush" as well... | ||
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Grettin
42381 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:57 some_pro wrote: I would have left the team too, but the manager didn't break the law or anything. Except, it's sexual harassment? | ||
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pikaaarrr :3
United States593 Posts
WE NEED DETECTIVE CELLA TO HELP US~ meowww | ||
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DragoonPK
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dacthehork
United States2000 Posts
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MLG_Wiggin
United States767 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:58 Etra wrote: You obviously do not understand my point of view. How many cases have there been of a girl "apparently" being raped by a guy. just because a girl screams rape does not mean its true. Well, if you want to draw the conclusion that all those WeRRa members are lying for some reason, you're welcome to. If you want to somehow spin that into there being some kind of anti-gay bias, you're welcome to. But if you want to look at this objectively, I think you might find it somewhat ironic that you called someone else 'retarded'. Why would WeRRa members make this up? It potentially ruins their chances at progamming in SC2, because they will be clanless (albiet not likely for long). Sure, sometimes people 'cry wolf'. But how often do they cry wolf, all their teammates cry wolf as well, and people come to you who are involved and talk about how upset they are (SoJu.WeRRa)? | ||
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_Darwin_
United States2374 Posts
On October 24 2010 03:03 dacthehork wrote: Cella could have been raped TT Why do u think he's been drinking so much? It drowns the pain. | ||
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csfield
United States206 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:09 koOma wrote: lmao User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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thehitman
1105 Posts
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VampireLady
Netherlands283 Posts
On October 24 2010 03:01 _Darwin_ wrote: Did you read the story? He made an advance which was rejected, then the manager tried to rape him after he baited him into sleeping. It wasn't like a wink or "youre cute" or something. Poor guy.. mebbe he didnt get any in a long time ;/ i m sure alot of u can relate to that XD | ||
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CurLy[]
United States759 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:57 some_pro wrote: I would have left the team too, but the manager didn't break the law or anything. Uhh.. I'm pretty sure thats sexual harassment at a minimum. also random associated google http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/special/2010/08/242_72022.html dunno about the source but interesting.. Glad the whole team quit. What a scumbag... hope that kid gets to join another team, or go back to school :| what a shame | ||
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Kyhol
Canada2574 Posts
Hopefully he didn't get traumatized by these events, take it easily and you won't be affected. | ||
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Dromar
United States2145 Posts
On a lighter note, this is going to make for some awkward introduction moments when Tasteless introduces a werra member in GSL. "Werra, a, ... uh, good clan." Well, OBVIOUSLY, there's a RAPIST in WeRRa clan, so hide your Zergs, hide your Terrans, and hide your Protoss too cuz dey rapin errbody out here. But seriously, disturbing, and puts all of these clans forming in a bad light. edit: as for the legal stuff, we should keep in mind that the laws in Korea may be completely different to those in the US and other parts of the world (similar to the differences with IP rights). Not saying he's innocent by a long shot, but just don't assume things will happen the same there as they would here. | ||
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dopplex
United States36 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:34 Node wrote: He's making constant sexual advances on people that clearly want no part of it. It's not rape, but it's a huge case of sexual harassment and abuse. That doesn't mean it isn't a horrible, horrible thing to hear of and have to deal with. I feel sorry for all the Werra folks. Living in a constant state of fear about what their coach, who's supposed to be there to support and assist and these kids, must be a terrible environment to live in. Seriously, I don't know if you guys realize just how huge these allegations are, but it's a big deal. Werra is as good as dead. Another point is that I think something can be read into how swiftly things are deteriorating - I don't think they would be shedding members this quickly after a single allegation if there wasn't more than just this one incident. | ||
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hypercube
Hungary2735 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:32 some_pro wrote: It's kind of weird I'll admit, but the manager shouldn't have any legal problem because of it. It's a form of sexual assult. The fact that his victim was a minor and he was in a position of power are aggravating circumstances. If this went to court he could go to prison for a long time. | ||
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Zlasher
United States9129 Posts
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Zeno
United States40 Posts
On October 24 2010 03:04 _Darwin_ wrote: Why do u think he's been drinking so much? It drowns the pain. I think thats a stretch. I think it's highly unlikely that anyone who was already a veteran/ had their place set in the clan to have suffered the same fate. It seems like it would only happen for members trying to break into the professional scene. I don't think the drinking had anything to do with that, he just did it one day and it shot his viewers up to over 1.2k. | ||
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_Darwin_
United States2374 Posts
On October 24 2010 03:09 Zeno wrote: I think thats a stretch. I think it's highly unlikely that anyone who was already a veteran/ had their place set in the clan to have suffered the same fate. It seems like it would only happen for members trying to break into the professional scene. I don't think the drinking had anything to do with that, he just did it one day and it shot his viewers up to over 1.2k. (I was joking) | ||
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VampireLady
Netherlands283 Posts
On October 24 2010 03:09 ZlaSHeR wrote: Wonder what happens to cella and phoenix. *happened~ ; | ||
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Arnstein
Norway3381 Posts
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arnold(soTa)
Sweden352 Posts
terrible that this has happend tho gl werra guys. | ||
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Pudge_172
United States1378 Posts
On October 24 2010 03:05 Khol wrote: May as well let him suck you off. It's not gay if you aren't the one doing it. Hopefully he didn't get traumatized by these events, take it easily and you won't be affected. You keep telling yourself that when you're getting sucked by a guy....... | ||
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Zeno
United States40 Posts
Hahaha OOPS! Oh well. | ||
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Notorious-B.I.G
77 Posts
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_Darwin_
United States2374 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:12 travis wrote: i bet his favorite map is blistering sands This is in terrible taste, one of the Werra members was seriousl... oh... backdoor LOL | ||
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Speight
Australia152 Posts
To all WeRRa members: I am very sorry to hear this news. I sincerely hope you all are personally OK. I also hope that you find a clan to support you. Nobody should have their career destroyed because of something like this. The community is here to support you, cheer for you and see your goals become a reality. Best of luck in the future. | ||
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VampireLady
Netherlands283 Posts
On October 24 2010 03:11 Notorious-B.I.G wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYBIt3uyntM people in werra need to watch this HAHAHHAHAHAH omg XD ur so epic User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Lennon
United Kingdom2275 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:33 Holcan wrote: lol, dont get to offended now. I'd totally let him suck me off for a sc2 contract. Self-respect is a funny thing. | ||
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ClanOverdosed
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Etra
81 Posts
On October 24 2010 03:03 w_Ender_w wrote: Well, if you want to draw the conclusion that all those WeRRa members are lying for some reason, you're welcome to. If you want to somehow spin that into there being some kind of anti-gay bias, you're welcome to. But if you want to look at this objectively, I think you might find it somewhat ironic that you called someone else 'retarded'. Why would WeRRa members make this up? It potentially ruins their chances at progamming in SC2, because they will be clanless (albiet not likely for long). Sure, sometimes people 'cry wolf'. But how often do they cry wolf, all their teammates cry wolf as well, and people come to you who are involved and talk about how upset they are (SoJu.WeRRa)? Why would they make it up? Some kind of inner clan dispute. Maybe they do not like him? Who knows? Also these players dedicate their lives to SC2, they will find a clan fast and I'm sure they do not need a clan to play SC2. If they want to be successful, they will find a way to play. Again, the point I am trying to make is so many people are jumping to the conclusion that this guy is bad and evil. Just imagine Gundam right now, he could be crying his ass of or he might even commit suicide. I would hate to have everyone hate me because some guy made up some fucked up story about me. This guys life is at stake. | ||
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SOCOMICEPICK
87 Posts
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Notorious-B.I.G
77 Posts
LOl ty ty ^^ | ||
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Borked
221 Posts
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Holcan
Canada2593 Posts
Oh hogwash, this happens every single minute of every single day, someone flirts for position, maybe this guy has the mannerisms of a pedophile, but hey at least he is to the point. | ||
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Stationary
Sweden22 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:26 some_pro wrote: He didn't try to rape him, he just did a move on him... Chill out That's bullshit, unzipping someones pants when theyre sleeping? That's fucking attempted rape. Would you say it was just "making a move" if it was a guy on girl as well? | ||
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LOLPEDOBEAR
Andorra1 Post
![[image loading]](http://oi55.tinypic.com/2saf3fb.jpg) Picture describes it all User was banned for this post. | ||
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Sadistic
United States6 Posts
Is it the same as the united states, where this guy would probably rot in prison for 5-10 years? (which isn't nearly enough time imo) Edit: I mean, what are likely consequences for this manager if someone seeks legal actions. | ||
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FoxSpirit
Austria160 Posts
On October 24 2010 03:02 Etra wrote: Dominio effect. Guy screams sexual assualt, eventually spreads to everyone. How can you tell if he is telling the truth. First thing, give me a motive for the crime of false accusation. Start your way from there. "I dislike gays so I accuse one and in return have to risk my whole gaming life for which I gave up school". I'm always suspicious first but in the given case and the given evidence, I am not. Good luck to you Werra guys, I hope all of you soon find a clan which will pick you up :-\ | ||
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RainWhisper
United Arab Emirates333 Posts
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Whiplash
United States2928 Posts
On October 24 2010 03:13 Beloth(OD) wrote: Its a shame that everyone left the clan because of his sexual preference. It is so hard for gay people to live in this world with all the discrimination... This has nothing to do with his sexual preference, it was the fact that he tricked this kid AND tried to have sex with him in a dishonest way, if the clan leader was in a normal sexual relationship and it happened to be with another man and the team knew about it, it wouldn't be an issue. | ||
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Killerbot
United States106 Posts
On October 24 2010 03:13 Beloth(OD) wrote: Its a shame that everyone left the clan because of his sexual preference. It is so hard for gay people to live in this world with all the discrimination... Seriously? No, really, seriously? This isn't discrimination, this is sexual assault, it doesn't matter if he's gay. If I walk into a girl's room and start unzipping her pants, guess what? I'm arrested. This has nothing to do with him being gay per say, it's his actions that are disgusting, revolting, and exploitative. | ||
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Yaotzin
South Africa4280 Posts
On October 24 2010 03:13 Beloth(OD) wrote: Its a shame that everyone left the clan because of his sexual preference. It is so hard for gay people to live in this world with all the discrimination... It has nothing to do with the guy being gay/bi. How bizarre and disturbing this is. Poor Werra folks | ||
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hypercube
Hungary2735 Posts
On October 24 2010 03:13 Etra wrote: Why would they make it up? Some kind of inner clan dispute. Maybe they do not like him? Who knows? Also these players dedicate their lives to SC2, they will find a clan fast and I'm sure they do not need a clan to play SC2. If they want to be successful, they will find a way to play. Again, the point I am trying to make is so many people are jumping to the conclusion that this guy is bad and evil. Just imagine Gundam right now, he could be crying his ass of or he might even commit suicide. I would hate to have everyone hate me because some guy made up some fucked up story about me. This guys life is at stake. Yes, he may have made it up. Unfortunately it's unlikely and the story is probably true. It's not jumping to conclusions, it's just the balance of evidence. | ||
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
We got you buddy. | ||
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Antoine
United States7481 Posts
On October 24 2010 03:13 Beloth(OD) wrote: Its a shame that everyone left the clan because of his sexual preference. It is so hard for gay people to live in this world with all the discrimination... really? so you think an adult male unzipping a teenaged girl's pants while she's sleeping is ok? get real, it was nothing about his being gay or not, it was the fact that he sexually assaulted one of the people he was responsible for taking care of and was an authority figure over. | ||
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some_amateur
3 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:20 some_pro wrote: lmao User was temp banned for this post. You have been temp banned for 1 week by Aesop. Reason: You don't post "lmao" in a thread like this. Do not attempt to circumvent this ban by making a new account, or your ban duration will be increased. lmao User was banned for this post. | ||
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kataa
United Kingdom384 Posts
On October 24 2010 03:13 Etra wrote: This guys life is at stake. I love how extrapolate a claim of sexual harassment, turn it around into a plot to kill someone, with absolutely no evidence. Seriously, the rest of us are basing our opinions on this off actual reports, from Werra players. You're making conspiracy theories, and suicides that haven't happened, and we have no evidence will happen. Sure it probably sucks to be him right now, but the odds are he deserves it. | ||
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Etra
81 Posts
On October 24 2010 03:15 FoxSpirit wrote: First thing, give me a motive for the crime of false accusation. Start your way from there. "I dislike gays so I accuse one and in return have to risk my whole gaming life for which I gave up school". I'm always suspicious first but in the given case and the given evidence, I am not. Good luck to you Werra guys, I hope all of you soon find a clan which will pick you up :-\ How is he risking his whole gaming life. If he wants to be pro, he practices, you do not need a team to sign up for GSL. | ||
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Fa1nT
United States3423 Posts
On October 24 2010 03:13 Beloth(OD) wrote: Its a shame that everyone left the clan because of his sexual preference. It is so hard for gay people to live in this world with all the discrimination... So are you saying attempted rape is ok as long as it's heterosexual or something? =/ | ||
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Bubu
Germany29 Posts
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Antiochus
Canada548 Posts
On October 24 2010 03:13 Beloth(OD) wrote: Its a shame that everyone left the clan because of his sexual preference. It is so hard for gay people to live in this world with all the discrimination... Ummmmm I read this more as their leaving because the manager was trying to force a member to have sex with him dont know what article you're reading. | ||
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Zeno
United States40 Posts
On October 24 2010 03:13 Etra wrote: Why would they make it up? Some kind of inner clan dispute. Maybe they do not like him? Who knows? Also these players dedicate their lives to SC2, they will find a clan fast and I'm sure they do not need a clan to play SC2. If they want to be successful, they will find a way to play. Again, the point I am trying to make is so many people are jumping to the conclusion that this guy is bad and evil. Just imagine Gundam right now, he could be crying his ass of or he might even commit suicide. I would hate to have everyone hate me because some guy made up some fucked up story about me. This guys life is at stake. I don't think that really makes sense. First off, if the guy knows he's innocent, he will be able to clear his name after an investigation is concluded. Your point is well taken that it's not good to spread rumors about this story before an investigation is concluded, but having sympathy for someone who (most likely) committed a sexual assault in this circumstance is inappropriate. Once the truth comes out the roles may be reversed and the accuser may be the one who is shamed, but for now, the sympathy should definitely go towards the victim and the team, not the accused. If Gundam turns out to be innocent, everything will turn out well for him in the end. | ||
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VampireLady
Netherlands283 Posts
On October 24 2010 03:15 Sadistic wrote: Does anyone know what the korean laws are for actions like this? Is it the same as the united states, where this guy would probably rot in prison for 5-10 years? (which isn't nearly enough time imo) Edit: I mean, what are likely consequences for this manager if someone seeks legal actions. Arent u exaggurating it a bit too much? the guy didnt rape.. okay? pls.. everyone makes mistakes how disgusting they may be.. I dont think you should be this harsh to others.. i Know its revolting and not mannered at the very least but still.. people tend to follow a flock of haters and drive others to go commit suicide.. Just be sensible and dont overreact. | ||
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Lennon
United Kingdom2275 Posts
On October 24 2010 03:18 Fa1nT wrote: So are you saying attempted rape is ok as long as it's heterosexual or something? =/ No, he was being sarcastic. | ||
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ZomgTossRush
United States1041 Posts
This doesn't look look for the progression of sc2 as a serious esport. | ||
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Kaptein[konijn]
Netherlands110 Posts
By the way, is the THE Gundam?? The one who always went 2 fact tank+mine push in bw? | ||
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vesicular
United States1310 Posts
On October 24 2010 03:13 Beloth(OD) wrote: Its a shame that everyone left the clan because of his sexual preference. It is so hard for gay people to live in this world with all the discrimination... While I agree that there is a lot of discrimination of gays (even on TL), this is not one of those times. The fact that he's gay has nothing to do with this story. | ||
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retro-noob
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csfield
United States206 Posts
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Nouar
France3270 Posts
On October 24 2010 03:13 Beloth(OD) wrote: Its a shame that everyone left the clan because of his sexual preference. It is so hard for gay people to live in this world with all the discrimination... You sir, are completely fucking BLIND. This is sexual assault, not being gay and making out with another guy. It might not be the first one, some others might have had problems but shut up (often happens, he's the coach, this is their job they sacrificed a lot), one of them had the guts to talk about it, some others might have been forced or assaulted, or maybe not, but nobody can tell yet but them. It's not being gay the problem here, it's having lube on the table and taking advantage of someone sleeping to undress him. What the fuck do you think would have happened if he didn't wake up at once ? Is charging someone who assaulted you when you're asleep fucking discrimination ? ....... Seriously.... | ||
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Fa1nT
United States3423 Posts
On October 24 2010 03:20 zomgtossrush wrote: This seems to be getting as big of a scandel as the sc1 players betting scandel. This doesn't look look for the progression of sc2 as a serious esport. having a sex scandal makes it MORE of a sport if you look at some of the coaches over the last few decades.. | ||
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_Darwin_
United States2374 Posts
On October 24 2010 03:21 Nouar wrote: You sir, are completely fucking BLIND. This is sexual assault, not being gay and making out with another guy. It might not be the first one, some others might have had problems but shut up (often happens, he's the coach, this is their job they sacrificed a lot), one of them had the guts to talk about it, some others might have been forced or assaulted, or maybe not, but nobody can tell yet but them. It's not being gay the problem here, it's having lube on the table and taking advantage of someone sleeping to undress him. What the fuck do you think would have happened if he didn't wake up at once ? Is charging someone who assaulted you when you're asleep fucking discrimination ? ....... Seriously.... Leave Gundam alone! But seriously Beloth was trolling. People need to stop responding. | ||
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some_amateur
3 Posts
On October 24 2010 03:15 Sadistic wrote: Does anyone know what the korean laws are for actions like this? Is it the same as the united states, where this guy would probably rot in prison for 5-10 years? (which isn't nearly enough time imo) Edit: I mean, what are likely consequences for this manager if someone seeks legal actions. Lol he just did a move on him, wtf is wrong with you... | ||
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Etra
81 Posts
On October 24 2010 03:19 Zeno wrote: I don't think that really makes sense. First off, if the guy knows he's innocent, he will be able to clear his name after an investigation is concluded. Your point is well taken that it's not good to spread rumors about this story before an investigation is concluded, but having sympathy for someone who (most likely) committed a sexual assault in this circumstance is inappropriate. Once the truth comes out the roles may be reversed and the accuser may be the one who is shamed, but for now, the sympathy should definitely go towards the victim and the team, not the accused. If Gundam turns out to be innocent, everything will turn out well for him in the end. Very good point, but honestly it could already be too late. This guy could be in his room getting ready to tie a rope because he knows everyone as left his clan which he has dedicated his life too. | ||
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FoxSpirit
Austria160 Posts
On October 24 2010 03:13 Etra wrote: Why would they make it up? Some kind of inner clan dispute. Maybe they do not like him? Who knows? Also these players dedicate their lives to SC2, they will find a clan fast and I'm sure they do not need a clan to play SC2. If they want to be successful, they will find a way to play. No clan, no sponsorship, no food on the table. And you didn't finish school. I have, in my whole life, not heard of a single instance where a whole sportsteam disbanded because of dislike for the manager. Even when the quarrels were earthquakes. Use your brain for a chance. This aint no little girl accusing Mr. Roberts because she thinks he's a loathsome teacher, this is someone for whom his whole financial future is at stake. You can ingore that but in return, your opinion carries no weight if you don't weight in the arguments. | ||
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Sadistic
United States6 Posts
On October 24 2010 03:19 MisS_Suna wrote: Arent u exaggurating it a bit too much? the guy didnt rape.. okay? pls.. everyone makes mistakes how disgusting they may be.. I dont think you should be this harsh to others.. i Know its revolting and not mannered at the very least but still.. people tend to follow a flock of haters and drive others to go commit suicide.. Just be sensible and dont overreact. Fair enough. What punishment would you feel is fair, if any at all? | ||
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Licmyobelisk
Philippines3682 Posts
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vesicular
United States1310 Posts
On October 24 2010 03:20 Kaptein[konijn] wrote: Am I the only one who thinks Wonkyu should perhaps have left after the dude was hitting on him? I mean there's no way I'd stay in a guy's house after that happened, let alone sleep in it. He said he was scared to say anything because of how it would hurt his chances at pro gaming. Leaving out of the blue with out explanation doesn't help that either. This is why this story is doubly bad. It's not like it was another player doing this to him, it was his coach, someone with authority over him. | ||
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_Darwin_
United States2374 Posts
On October 24 2010 03:23 Sadistic wrote: Fair enough. What punishment would you feel is fair, if any at all? Being locked in a room with idrA and Artosis as they watch PvZ replays involving cannon contains. | ||
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drooL
United Kingdom2108 Posts
gl to all the ex-werras and GTFoutta there cella! | ||
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MK4512
Canada938 Posts
oGs.Cella? | ||
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Piski
Finland3461 Posts
On October 24 2010 03:22 some_amateur wrote: Lol he just did a move on him, wtf is wrong with you... Did you read the op. Since when unzipping someone pants while they sleep is "making a move". Go try to unzip some girls pants while she sleep and try to convince her you were just making a move :f It's a sexual harrassment and you can/should take legal actions against that. | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
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thehitman
1105 Posts
On October 24 2010 03:13 Beloth(OD) wrote: Its a shame that everyone left the clan because of his sexual preference. It is so hard for gay people to live in this world with all the discrimination... LOL. Maybe the gay men should have told his sexual preferences before tricking young and often under aged boys to his clan and then abusing them. They have their gay bars and meeting places so they should take their gay stuff there and don't bother normal people. | ||
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zoLo
United States5896 Posts
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VampireLady
Netherlands283 Posts
On October 24 2010 03:23 Sadistic wrote: Fair enough. What punishment would you feel is fair, if any at all? I dont think any.. THIS whole sherade put up in forums media is a very big punishment by itself.. the guy probably wont get a job and be scarred for life.. what more do u want? linch the guy? People have no idea what kind of impact this has on the guy self.. Im just glad nothing happened to that Werra member | ||
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Etra
81 Posts
On October 24 2010 03:21 Nouar wrote: You sir, are completely fucking BLIND. This is sexual assault, not being gay and making out with another guy. It might not be the first one, some others might have had problems but shut up (often happens, he's the coach, this is their job they sacrificed a lot), one of them had the guts to talk about it, some others might have been forced or assaulted, or maybe not, but nobody can tell yet but them. It's not being gay the problem here, it's having lube on the table and taking advantage of someone sleeping to undress him. What the fuck do you think would have happened if he didn't wake up at once ? Is charging someone who assaulted you when you're asleep fucking discrimination ? ....... Seriously.... "Sexual assault is an assault of a sexual nature on another person." Where is the assault in his post. Retard? | ||
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DeckOneBell
United States526 Posts
Sorry to hear about it, I love Werra, especially Cella, of course! Hope you guys find new teams that work out, or maybe just make your own new team. | ||
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styl3s
United States36 Posts
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FarbrorAbavna
Sweden4856 Posts
On October 24 2010 03:26 thehitman wrote: LOL. Maybe the gay men should have told his sexual preferences before tricking young and often under aged boys to his clan and then abusing them. They have their gay bars and meeting places so they should take their gay stuff there and don't bother normal people. Normal people? lmao | ||
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HwangjaeTerran
Finland5967 Posts
" Are you gay?" Is exactly what I would say if I woke up to someone unzipping my pants. Seriously this is some bad shit though. | ||
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EffectS
Belgium795 Posts
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csfield
United States206 Posts
you believe some nutty bullshit | ||
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FrostOtter
United States537 Posts
On October 24 2010 03:27 Etra wrote: "Sexual assault is an assault of a sexual nature on another person." Where is the assault in his post. Retard? Legally, assault is just being touched in a way that the person you are touching does not want. Simple assault would be threatening to touch someone in a way in which they would not want to be touched. So yeah, this would be sexual assault. EDIT: That is, in the US. I don't know the laws in Korea. | ||
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Apex
United States7227 Posts
But really, that just sucks. Potential molestation/sexual harassment is never a good thing. | ||
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Grummler
Germany743 Posts
B: No, dont worry. A: Seriously? Because.. B: Absolutly not... A: Ok, sorry then! B: ..i am BISEXUAL! | ||
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some_amateur
3 Posts
On October 24 2010 03:26 thehitman wrote: LOL. Maybe the gay men should have told his sexual preferences before tricking young and often under aged boys to his clan and then abusing them. They have their gay bars and meeting places so they should take their gay stuff there and don't bother normal people. "normal people" ? you are so fucking stupid : / ps: yea I know, "user was banned" etc | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
On October 24 2010 03:27 MisS_Suna wrote: I dont think any.. THIS whole sherade put up in forums media is a very big punishment by itself.. the guy probably wont get a job and be scarred for life.. what more do u want? linch the guy? People have no idea what kind of impact this has on the guy self.. Im just glad nothing happened to that Werra member ? Nothing happened to him? What, you can do anything with a person as long as you don't put ____ all the way in ____ or do you have to put ____ in there to? | ||
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Thenas
Sweden107 Posts
I have no clue how old the werra members are but if there are some that are underage and he's done this towards them. | ||
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Zlasher
United States9129 Posts
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Taosu
Ukraine1074 Posts
Gundam was lucky it wasn't Russia or Ukraine. Here such problems are solved in somewhat other way. | ||
dinki0825
United States238 Posts
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SichuanPanda
Canada1542 Posts
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Natt
France253 Posts
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teamsolid
Canada3668 Posts
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_Darwin_
United States2374 Posts
On October 24 2010 03:31 Taosu wrote: That's just sad. I would have understood if Gundam was physically stronger, tied his victims and then did terrible things to them. But quitting the clan after having one's pants unzipped... Gundam was lucky it wasn't Russia or Ukraine. Here such problems are solved in somewhat other way. So if your manager willfully touched you and lured you into his bedroom to sleep and then unzipped your pants.. you'd be like "dats aight normal day good times"? Please explain how it would be handled in Ukraine. | ||
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ghermination
United States2851 Posts
I mean what the fuck he wasn't even reported before? Surely this has to be illegal... If someone tried that on me you can guarantee i wouldn't just "leave their house" | ||
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Congism
Scotland123 Posts
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Pibacc
Canada545 Posts
On October 24 2010 03:26 thehitman wrote: LOL. Maybe the gay men should have told his sexual preferences before tricking young and often under aged boys to his clan and then abusing them. They have their gay bars and meeting places so they should take their gay stuff there and don't bother normal people. I hope you're trolling because if you're not you sir, are disgusting. The problem isn't with his sexuality, it's with the fact he sexually harassed someone, who looks to be under age.. | ||
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nalho
United States351 Posts
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nonparfumee
Canada21 Posts
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pmLai
Norway38 Posts
But fuuuuuck.... how could this happen? | ||
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Alexhandr
United States218 Posts
I have three little nephews and a niece. Things like this are serious freaking issues with me. | ||
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emythrel
United Kingdom2599 Posts
To all of you i say this... If you had a 15 year old daughter and a 18+ guy tried to touch her, she said no, then the guy unzipped her trousers while she slept, would you just tell her to shut up and get over it? Or would you fucking kill the guy? Even without proof, if either of my sons told me a story like this i would beat the guy to a pulp. | ||
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MangoTango
United States3670 Posts
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frequency
Australia1901 Posts
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kataa
United Kingdom384 Posts
On October 24 2010 03:31 SichuanPanda wrote: All I'm wondering is one thing. Gundam has been involved in clan WeRRa since WC3, and this is the first time we're hearing about him being bi-sexual/gay ? Very strange. I'm not saying it isn't true, but I'd hazard a guess to say there is a little more going on behind the scenes of WeRRa than just this post. You'd be surprised. He might just really enjoy making passes at the younger, insecure members of the clan. It can take years and years for things like this to come out. Look how many decades the Catholic Churches sex scandal continued before anyone reported anything. People don't really like talking about being sexually harassed over the internet to the general public, especially if it's more graphic than what happened in this incident. | ||
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FliedLice
Germany7494 Posts
On October 24 2010 03:31 SichuanPanda wrote: All I'm wondering is one thing. Gundam has been involved in clan WeRRa since WC3, and this is the first time we're hearing about him being bi-sexual/gay ? Very strange. I'm not saying it isn't true, but I'd hazard a guess to say there is a little more going on behind the scenes of WeRRa than just this post. people on this thread seem to go totally bonkers about that story... just wait and see what comes out of this. | ||
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SichuanPanda
Canada1542 Posts
On October 24 2010 03:33 _Darwin_ wrote: So if your manager willfully touched you and lured you into his bedroom to sleep and then unzipped your pants.. you'd be like "dats aight normal day good times"? Please explain how it would be handled in Ukraine. Unless he was physically more powerful than I was and capable of forcing me to do what he wanted I would not be 'lured' into someones bedroom (unless its a hot female). The second I got the gay vibe, I would have left his house as mannered as possible and be done with it. I understand oftentimes when sexual harassment occurs its someone in a senior position to the victim who is doing the harassment, but just because someone is boss, or team coach doesn't mean you have to go through with them with their perverse sexual fantasies. | ||
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Congism
Scotland123 Posts
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imperator-xy
Germany1366 Posts
i am catholic as well and i dont go to church or believe in god | ||
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Shurimpu
United States50 Posts
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Grummler
Germany743 Posts
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VampireLady
Netherlands283 Posts
On October 24 2010 03:30 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: ? Nothing happened to him? What, you can do anything with a person as long as you don't put ____ all the way in ____ or do you have to put ____ in there to? there was an attempt .. there wasnt an actual physical act.. and for that im glad.. Also.. if you have a name like Gundam.werra does and something of this magnitude comes out..t he outcome is just devastating the media circus around it .. being linched out in the media circus is just horrendous as well.. im not trying to defend but i want u the consider his side.. he probably will get to hear this for decades to come and be judged accordingly. | ||
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Lennon
United Kingdom2275 Posts
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Sein
United States1811 Posts
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
On October 24 2010 03:36 SichuanPanda wrote: Unless he was physically more powerful than I was and capable of forcing me to do what he wanted I would not be 'lured' into someones bedroom (unless its a hot female). The second I got the gay vibe, I would have left his house as mannered as possible and be done with it. I understand oftentimes when sexual harassment occurs its someone in a senior position to the victim who is doing the harassment, but just because someone is boss, or team coach doesn't mean you have to go through with them with their perverse sexual fantasies. and then u lose favor with ur manager and face negative consequences | ||
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teamsolid
Canada3668 Posts
On October 24 2010 03:36 SichuanPanda wrote: Unless he was physically more powerful than I was and capable of forcing me to do what he wanted I would not be 'lured' into someones bedroom (unless its a hot female). The second I got the gay vibe, I would have left his house as mannered as possible and be done with it. I understand oftentimes when sexual harassment occurs its someone in a senior position to the victim who is doing the harassment, but just because someone is boss, or team coach doesn't mean you have to go through with them with their perverse sexual fantasies. He could pull a knife or gun on you. You never know. | ||
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FrostOtter
United States537 Posts
On October 24 2010 03:34 frequency wrote: WeRRa, the Catholic Church of Starcraft II. You do know that that Catholic Church has one of the lowest instances of abuse in the world, right? Any institution of over a billion members is going to have some percentage that act poorly, but for some reason the media loves the Catholic Church even though its instances of abuse are less than those in the public school system and in other denominations of Christianity. Oh, and there just might be Catholics that play SC2, genius, so maybe we should be more respectful of peoples' religions. | ||
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_Darwin_
United States2374 Posts
On October 24 2010 03:37 travis wrote: and then u lose favor with ur manager and face negative consequences ^This It's not the kid's problem. It's the manager who molested him. doesn't mean you have to go through with them with their perverse sexual fantasies lol he didn't "go through with them." He fell asleep after laddering and then awoke to rape. | ||
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wonkyu
Korea (South)6 Posts
On October 24 2010 03:23 Sadistic wrote: Fair enough. What punishment would you feel is fair, if any at all? it isnt exaggated. he tried to sexuall harass in this case, and the other one testified at www.playxp.com and the victim said that I had anal sex with him by force so it was clearly rape. different case | ||
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Contagious
United States1319 Posts
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alffla
Hong Kong20321 Posts
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Yaotzin
South Africa4280 Posts
On October 24 2010 03:37 Sein wrote: Not looking good at all for Werra. They were already hated by many Koreans after MioWerra got caught cheating on TV, and despite GundamWerra's "sincere" apology that included not recruiting any member for a while, they recruited a player during GSL2 qualifying rounds. Details on this? | ||
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thesighter
United States347 Posts
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Slow Motion
United States6960 Posts
On October 24 2010 03:40 wonkyu wrote: it isnt exaggated. he tried to sexuall harass in this case, and the other one testified at www.playxp.com and the victim said that I had anal sex with him by force so it was clearly rape. different case woah that's pretty fucked up. got any translations? | ||
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MuteZephyr
Lithuania448 Posts
o_0 This is so disturbing. Agreed, I hope Cella and Phoenix aren't getting this too. I'm at a loss for words. | ||
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gundream
United States229 Posts
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Taosu
Ukraine1074 Posts
On October 24 2010 03:33 _Darwin_ wrote: So if your manager willfully touched you and lured you into his bedroom to sleep and then unzipped your pants.. you'd be like "dats aight normal day good times"? Please explain how it would be handled in Ukraine. Well, if I were there I would have left his home right after that: On October 24 2010 02:02 wonkyu wrote: He laid his head on my lap and put arms around my shoulders I was gross, and suspicious I can't understand why did he stay. Here it's usually solved by punching molester's face and alarming other people that he's gay (in most cases this causes irreparable damage to reputation). Well, cultural differences... | ||
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Etra
81 Posts
On October 24 2010 03:30 FrostOtter wrote: Legally, assault is just being touched in a way that the person you are touching does not want. Simple assault would be threatening to touch someone in a way in which they would not want to be touched. So yeah, this would be sexual assault. EDIT: That is, in the US. I don't know the laws in Korea. Did you get this out of a children's dictionary? So if I stroked your cheek and you did not like it, I would be assaulting you? | ||
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Falling
Canada11350 Posts
On October 24 2010 03:43 Etra wrote: Did you get this out of a children's dictionary? So if I stroked your cheek and you did not like it, I would be assaulting you? Yeah, probably. Dunno how it is elsewhere, but I'm a month and a half away from becoming a teacher in Canada and you have to be very careful on what you do. Particularly if you're a male teacher in elementary. (Although there's been some crazy cougars that have been caught recently at the high school level.) Above reproach is key because if it's your word against theirs, you will lose. Maybe people are hypersensitive, but abuse have occurred and if you are in a position of authority over vulnerable persons, the standards are much higher. Tough on people in authority, but better than if things were too lenient. | ||
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FrostOtter
United States537 Posts
On October 24 2010 03:43 Etra wrote: Did you get this out of a children's dictionary? So if I stroked your cheek and you did not like it, I would be assaulting you? If you consider minoring in political science for my undergraduate degree a "children's dictionary," then yes. Yes, if you stroked my cheek and I didn't like it, and I made it clear to you, or it was already reasonably clear to you, that I wouldn't like it, that would be assault. The chances of me prosecuting you might be low, but people break the law all the time without ever going to court. It depends on how much the person cares. | ||
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biomech
Germany380 Posts
On October 24 2010 03:40 wonkyu wrote: it isnt exaggated. he tried to sexuall harass in this case, and the other one testified at www.playxp.com and the victim said that I had anal sex with him by force so it was clearly rape. different case beforehand, translation shall please not mislead us here... so what actually happened, attempt to sexual harrassement OR in fact 'rape' being forced to have anal intercourse? (or both on different victims? oO) | ||
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csfield
United States206 Posts
On October 24 2010 03:37 imperator-xy wrote: i am catholic as well and i dont go to church or believe in god you're not catholic then | ||
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_Darwin_
United States2374 Posts
On October 24 2010 03:43 Taosu wrote: Well, if I were there I would have left his home right after that: I can't understand why did he stay. Here it's usually solved by punching molester's face and alarming other people that he's gay (in most cases this causes irreparable damage to reputation). Well, cultural differences... But as people have said- he was 16 and had dropped out of school to join the team. He obviously wouldn't want to piss off the manager. This isn't just "cultural" differences. It's someone in a position of power exploiting the vulnerable. It happens globally bro. | ||
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hhrn
157 Posts
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FoxSpirit
Austria160 Posts
On October 24 2010 03:43 Etra wrote: Did you get this out of a children's dictionary? So if I stroked your cheek and you did not like it, I would be assaulting you? If I said 'please don't' or shied away, yes. And I just recently had a weird experience with grownups forcing themselves on children and thinking it a-ok. If the kid doesn't want to kiss aunt Emma, it doesn't. Done. | ||
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GoodRamen
United States713 Posts
On October 24 2010 03:43 Etra wrote: Did you get this out of a children's dictionary? So if I stroked your cheek and you did not like it, I would be assaulting you? please dont flame me but its different in this situation, you are not unzipping his pants when he is sleeping right? | ||
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FrostOtter
United States537 Posts
On October 24 2010 03:46 csfield wrote: you're not catholic then Generally referred to as a "lapsed" Catholic. As far as the "nutty" stuff, we are as entitled to our beliefs as anyone else in the world. I'm not trashing you, am I? | ||
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Licmyobelisk
Philippines3682 Posts
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desRow
Canada2654 Posts
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eyeEX
United States64 Posts
On October 24 2010 03:37 Congism wrote: I can just see State of the Game now... It's gonna be a good one. | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
On October 24 2010 03:42 Slow Motion wrote: woah that's pretty fucked up. got any translations? ah i hope that didn't happen | ||
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Taosu
Ukraine1074 Posts
On October 24 2010 03:46 _Darwin_ wrote: But as people have said- he was 16 and had dropped out of school to join the team. He obviously wouldn't want to piss off the manager. This isn't just "cultural" differences. It's someone in a position of power exploiting the vulnerable. It happens globally bro. Yeah, he sure had power to convince. If victims just remained silent that could stretch for a long time. But in any case, I think having such people in charge is intolerable. I hope Werra will solve this problem soon and Gundam will get punished for what he did. | ||
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leviathan20
United Kingdom193 Posts
TLAF-Liquid'Cella ?? Yeah that's right. | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
On October 24 2010 03:37 MisS_Suna wrote: there was an attempt .. there wasnt an actual physical act.. and for that im glad.. Also.. if you have a name like Gundam.werra does and something of this magnitude comes out..t he outcome is just devastating the media circus around it .. being linched out in the media circus is just horrendous as well.. im not trying to defend but i want u the consider his side.. he probably will get to hear this for decades to come and be judged accordingly. I don't think that bad publicity is sufficient to protect people because there will be plenty of people that don't hear about this. Someone who attempts murder and someone who succeeds at it are just as likely mentally to try to murder, same with rape. | ||
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bLuR
Canada625 Posts
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
On October 24 2010 03:40 wonkyu wrote: it isnt exaggated. he tried to sexuall harass in this case, and the other one testified at www.playxp.com and the victim said that I had anal sex with him by force so it was clearly rape. different case Wonkyu when you say "I had..." it makes it sound like you are Gundam.werra so be careful with your writing :/. | ||
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thesideshow
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TheRPGAddict
United States1403 Posts
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
On October 24 2010 03:26 Pandain wrote: how old was the person assaulted | ||
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Elbee
United States224 Posts
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ForSC2
United States580 Posts
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Ichabod
United States1659 Posts
Terrible situation though | ||
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FrostOtter
United States537 Posts
I think people said 16 | ||
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az2
United States62 Posts
On October 24 2010 03:18 some_amateur wrote: lmao User was banned for this post. LMFAO User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Herculix
United States946 Posts
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KrissirK
United States63 Posts
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kidgonesmall
United States309 Posts
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On October 24 2010 03:43 Taosu wrote: Well, if I were there I would have left his home right after that: I can't understand why did he stay. Here it's usually solved by punching molester's face and alarming other people that he's gay (in most cases this causes irreparable damage to reputation). Well, cultural differences... 16 year old kid vs grown man. Yeah, hm, in some rare cases that might work... most 16 year olds? Not really :s | ||
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0mgVitaminE
United States1278 Posts
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thehitman
1105 Posts
On October 24 2010 03:27 Etra wrote: "Sexual assault is an assault of a sexual nature on another person." Where is the assault in his post. Retard? You are right, officially its not a sexual assault, its sexual harass, which is wrong anyways and forbidden by law. | ||
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delloR
United States57 Posts
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Sein
United States1811 Posts
Well, here's basically all I know from browsing some Korean websites, mostly playxp: MioWerra was "Earhacking" by watching his live games on stream (I believe it was gisadoTV). TheSTC suspected this and made a rage post on playxp, and later it was confirmed that MioWerra was indeed cheating, and also that 서연지 (claimed to be MioWerra's friend) who was also featured in gisado was actually MioWerra himself. Gundam later made a huge apology post on playxp, saying sorry that he let it happen, and that Werra members will not participate in any AfreecaTV events or tournaments (including gisado) for a month and also not recruit/accept any more member while they're reflecting. Werra recruited someone right after he qualified for GSL2, and there were a lot of angry people over this. | ||
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bendez
Canada283 Posts
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DraPa
Canada10 Posts
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_Darwin_
United States2374 Posts
On October 24 2010 04:07 bendez wrote: Post his pic, humiliate him publicly. Gay motherfucker. He thinks he can get away with this? Ruin this fuckers life. ?? I don't think it's because he's gay... it's because he molested a 16 year old who clearly didn't want contact. (and he is bi) | ||
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Taosu
Ukraine1074 Posts
On October 24 2010 03:59 Liquid`Jinro wrote: 16 year old kid vs grown man. Yeah, hm, in some rare cases that might work... most 16 year olds? Not really :s I still see no problem to just leave. Gundam didn't hit him or threat him with a gun or knife whatever right? That would be totally off limits. I hope in Korean prisons such people are treated with same "respect" as everywhere in the world. | ||
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Philip2110
Scotland798 Posts
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
On October 24 2010 04:04 thehitman wrote: You are right, officially its not a sexual assault, its sexual harass, which is wrong anyways and forbidden by law. I dunno how Korean law works but by US law unzipping someone's zipper goes past harassment and into assault. Also, in US law there is overlap between the two (sexual harassment can include sexual assault) so... | ||
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bendez
Canada283 Posts
On October 24 2010 04:10 _Darwin_ wrote: ?? I don't think it's because he's gay... it's because he molested a 16 year old who clearly didn't want contact. (and he is bi) Which was my whole fucking point. Publicly humiliate him for trying to rape a 16yr old kid who quit school to follow his dreams. | ||
Heyoka
Katowice25012 Posts
If anything more official pops up on playxp feel free to translate. | ||
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