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On August 16 2010 07:35 Alou wrote:All these hundred post users coming in are hilarious. Not even seeing the event and then saying they're right because they aren't a one post user. Hahaha. Basing anything off of post count is ridiculous guys. I'm not a fan of BigT, but I'm also not a fan of hating on the low post counts. 
In the interest of fairness I will quote all of the people that have commented on the single post users, some of which now have 2 or 3 posts.
+ Show Spoiler +On August 16 2010 07:21 ghermination wrote: The number of random 1 posters coming into this thread to defend BigT is really suspicious. I agree with the title wholeheartedly, BigT really is a douche and doesn't deserve a slice of the sc2 caster pie he's so greedily trying to take. On August 16 2010 07:25 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: The amount of single digit post count users is amusing.
User was warned for this post On August 16 2010 07:25 Zidane wrote: lol @ the six or so 1 post count users in this thread, all of which are defending said guy. On August 16 2010 07:29 SanguineToss wrote: Ahahaha those 1 post people coming in and defending BigT is hilarious bahahah.
All those 1 posters say the same thing about drama i wouldnt be surprised if they came from just one nerd.
ive watched BigT stream and honestly you can tell this guys terrible, not saying i have great streaming experience or am a great caster myself but for fucks sake we need a better guy than this powerhungry douche with little or no gameplay knowledge to be telling me whats happening in the game. On August 16 2010 07:30 Dgtl wrote: Wow, 6+ 1-3 post users all posting in a thread defending the guy the thread is bashing? I call shenanigans. This one is not as clear an instance of your example, but it is commenting incredulously about a single post user defending BigT quite enthusiastically. + Show Spoiler +On August 16 2010 06:59 prototype. wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2010 06:50 dilatedmind wrote: Hey BigT is not a douche, I think he's just kind of misunderstood.
I've been watching his stream on and off the past couple weeks and he has moved from casting his own games to helping to cover the weekly tournaments. He has been doing a good job and working long hours (sometimes more then 10 hours in a row) to bring coverage throughout an entire event.
I remember the first time the issue of kicking casters came up... during one of the tournaments about 10 spectators were in a game, causing the players to lag. They requested that only one or two casters remain. I have no doubt that after going through the process of being polite and trying to sort things out game after game, bigT might have gotten a little rude, but really he just has the experience of doing this many times and probably just wants to get the game started as soon as possible. How much did bigt pay you to sign up on teamliquid to say that?
And of course myself. Of these, I am the only one that likely qualifies for you criteria of "hundred post users." This is somewhat questionable, but your use of the phrase "all these hundred post users" is somewhat ambiguous; I suppose it is reasonable that we have different standards of when that phrasing is appropriate. If I have missed one, I apologize, but I believe that the preponderance of posters that do not qualify for "hundred post users" makes it unlikely that I have missed enough users to make these "hundred post users" a majority, which at least is closer to a commonly accepted definition of "all these hundred post users."
Personally, I think judging on post count is a completely ludicrous practice. If a person with low postcount posts an idea for a build, or a comment in a balance thread, I think it makes sense to judge that post by its content and not by the user.
However, I also think that it is reasonable to find something odd about a situation where 5 or 6 people who have never posted on this forum before and have never found a good enough reason to post (instead of simply lurk), believe that this BigT is such a good caster or is so unfairly mistreated by part of the community that they simply must stand up for him. Again though, I do not know anything about BigT and can pass no judgment on him personally, though this hopefully coincidental congregation of new posters amuses me regardless of the situation. It is either a rare coincidence or a entertaining example of (self) advertisement.
EDIT: Another "hundred post user" has popped up while I was writing this post. + Show Spoiler +On August 16 2010 08:01 ecdN wrote: His self promotion is pretty hilarious as well. While his postcount is not actually in the hundreds, I think his post falls under your classification. Of course, this still is not a sufficient number of "hundred post users" to constitute a majority of the posters commenting on the number of single post users.
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he is a bad caster. But well, when there is no other option... (as the gosugamer cup).
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On August 16 2010 08:10 Prixm wrote: Haters gonna hate. There will always be haters. But he is the best caster out there, he brings it all to the table, he does share it all with everyone. He has the most views and he streams endless hours almoste every every day.
He has the right to be there to stream. The players want him to stream for him. They like him, why would the one with most viewers and the most liked caster just let 3k people down?
You guys are fucking idiots. You can tell BigT fanboys by their catch phrases. ie. "Haters gonna hate." What are you 12?
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On August 16 2010 07:16 Wendizzle22 wrote: BigT is just selfish and a terrible caster.
Last week, this is a summary of how the game chat went when BigT lagged, I don't know the exact game and thus cannot find the replay.
HuK: BigT out BigT: It's ok, it'll pass HuK: BigT out BigT: It's fine, just play
(This was a lengthy time of lagging as well)
Also, on this same weekend, I believe he was telling HuK what his opponent did the last game to beat him, in the middle of a series. I'm not sure on the official code of conduct, but I do believe you definately should not be doing that. I know people can watch replays, but I have never seen it in the middle of a series.
He needs to learn his place. This is only one example of his selfishness shown in his terrible casting.
Lets see it. You are clearly lying here.
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On August 16 2010 07:16 binary25 wrote: Man some of you are drama queens, EXAGGERATING so much what happened. Acting like divas and blowing this up. I was watching entire time. Right when game started Huk paused and told someone to drop because of lag. A guy named Enron told BigT to drop first because he is a GosuGamers streamer. BigT was confused because he didn' t recognize Enron and stated that he never heard of him.
Huk and Morrow decided to remake game and chose only BigT to cast. BigT didn't "bully" other casters and tried to get them kicked. I don't ever remember BigT bragging about his viewer count, or acting all haughty for casting Morrow vs Huk. It was a simple misunderstanding, it's not an effin big deal, and you guys need to stop exaggerating and posting quotes out of context to push your own agendas against BigT.
This ^
BigT hasn't been lagging anything nor has his stream been lagging. It's either live stream or the piece of sh*t computer that you're sitting on.
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HuK said the game was lagging(because the game skipped for a moment). He told all casters besides BigT to leave. Since they didn't, HuK told MorroW to rehost and invite only BigT. So he did. No-one knew who those other spectators were. HuK was still lagging because he lives in Canada and MorroW lives in Sweden. Obviously there is going to be response-lag there, but that wasn't the lag that HuK was complaining of originally.
When BigT said: "its my tournament//lol" he was kidding, as you should know from the use of "lol". Yes, you do need to be taught in Internet slang, because you clearly don't understand it. BigT didn't know who those guys were, so when they said that it was their tournament, he thought they were just trolling him.
Yes he's got a big ego, but why do you care? If you had players like HuK and MorroW frequenting your stream, you'd probably have a pretty big ego yourself. BigT even admits he has a giant ass ego when he says "I'm not letting any of you viewers go because I'm a view-whore blah blah blah"(not exactly what he says, but that's close to it).
BigT is just having fun. He actually has some good COLORFUL commentary unlike most of the GosuGamers casters, so I certainly don't mind.
Back on topic though, clearly those admins didn't care and they understood because they didn't press the issue(as far as I know). Just because BigT isn't your cup of tea, doesn't mean you get to call him a douche for something he isn't responsible for. You can tell he's doing his best to be professional, so this is pretty uncalled for.
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The problem with the hordes of BigT fans coming out and defending their hero is that they are probably new to SC in general, meaning they probably haven't ever heard...well, a good caster.
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omg i never even knew tl had these many 0 posters.
lol
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People are just mad that their commentators weren't picked by Huk to stream the match. Huk likes BigT and knows he doesn't lag so he lets him stream his matches almost flawlessly.
As for the 100 posts makes you cool thing, sure if by cool you mean retarded troll.
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On August 16 2010 08:16 SanguineToss wrote: omg i never even knew tl had these many 0 posters.
lol I wonder how many of them are BigT.
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I like how this thread has ~100 replies... ~50 of which are against BigT, YET there are currently 2600 people watching his stream that like it. If you don't like him, don't watch him. Simple as that. There are other streams you can watch. Grow up, and have a nice day.
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Poor TL.net, now I understand what they meant by "lots of newcomers".
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he's a bad caster and a douche. you can afford to be one or the other, not both
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On August 16 2010 08:18 BigMoe wrote: I like how this thread has ~100 replies... ~50 of which are against BigT, YET there are currently 2600 people watching his stream that like it. If you don't like him, don't watch him. Simple as that. There are other streams you can watch. Grow up, and have a nice day.
Did you read the OP? We wouldn't watch him if he wasn't asking the other casters to leave the games he's in.
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On August 16 2010 08:15 Elegy wrote: The problem with the hordes of BigT fans coming out and defending their hero is that they are probably new to SC in general, meaning they probably haven't ever heard...well, a good caster.
Well how about recommending a good SC2 caster for these noobs. If being a diamond league player doesn't qualify you to be a caster then I am surely missing something?
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On August 16 2010 08:12 ecdN wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2010 08:10 Prixm wrote: Haters gonna hate. There will always be haters. But he is the best caster out there, he brings it all to the table, he does share it all with everyone. He has the most views and he streams endless hours almoste every every day.
He has the right to be there to stream. The players want him to stream for him. They like him, why would the one with most viewers and the most liked caster just let 3k people down?
You guys are fucking idiots. You can tell BigT fanboys by their catch phrases. ie. "Haters gonna hate." What are you 12?
Your Funny.
I heard they are giving out free donuts and cheeseburgers to fat dudes with small dicks. So why are you still here?
Seriously, judging BigT for something this ridiculous. Fucking drama queens all of you. Just having to troll and making fun of someone that does a great job just to feel good about your small cock and that you'll probably die a virgin.
User was temp banned for this post.
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I don't really care, just wanna clarify that some people are bs'ing: <[M]HuK> yo <[M]HuK> can we have <[M]HuK> 1 <[M]HuK> streamer <[M]HuK> in game only <[M]HuK> idk why we need 5 different streamers <[M]HuK> in every single game <[M]HuK> when there is lag and delay <[M]HuK> admin? <@GG-erZ> hmm
That was huk on irc.
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lol what a douche this kid. I'll learn to watch out for him
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I've watched plenty of streams. The players and casters ALL ask obs to leave. If they state they are a caster, they are allowed to stay until they cause lag. I have personally only ever seen him mention the OBS leaving. Not the casters.
OR.. If this is the case.. Watch another stream, and get a replay if you want to see a certain game. Simple as that, and a LOT more effective that whining on the internet.
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On August 16 2010 08:19 yejin wrote: Poor TL.net, now I understand what they meant by "lots of newcomers".
TL.net doesn't need the pity. You and the other veterans do, however. Its going to get rough for you close-minded vets over the next few weeks that you are visiting this site. You are going to be overrun and you'll be completely unprepared with dealing with the influx of new members. Employing the hate strategy will force you veterans out easily. Its the zerg, not a small influx of members.
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