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Bibdy
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3481 Posts
June 26 2010 16:14 GMT
#161
Almost every patch to SC2 has been on a Thursday or Friday, so its not that bizarre.
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
June 26 2010 16:26 GMT
#162
On June 27 2010 01:14 Bibdy wrote:
Almost every patch to SC2 has been on a Thursday or Friday, so its not that bizarre.


Patches are different than the entire server coming up for what is, in part, a stress test. It'd be stupid to do that on a Thursday.

And no, not almost every patch has been on a Thursday or Friday. They've been on random days throughout the week.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
jamesr12
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1549 Posts
June 26 2010 16:27 GMT
#163
On June 27 2010 01:13 ondik wrote:
so SC2B should be available in PC Bangs in just few hours, right?


don't think so. I'm pretty sure its 27th french time so 28th korean time. So another day or so
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=306479
Bibdy
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3481 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-26 16:49:43
June 26 2010 16:45 GMT
#164
On June 27 2010 01:26 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2010 01:14 Bibdy wrote:
Almost every patch to SC2 has been on a Thursday or Friday, so its not that bizarre.


Patches are different than the entire server coming up for what is, in part, a stress test. It'd be stupid to do that on a Thursday.

And no, not almost every patch has been on a Thursday or Friday. They've been on random days throughout the week.


Isn't patch day an equally big stress test? Server down. Server up. BOOM, everyone logs on.

Patch 1 - 02/25 = Thursday
Patch 2 - 02/26 = Friday
Patch 3 - 03/04 = Thursday
Patch 4 - 03/05 = Friday
Patch 5 - 03/12 = Friday
Patch 6 - 03/25 = Thursday
Patch 7 - 03/30 = Tuesday
Patch 8 - 04/07 = Wednesday
Patch 9 - 04/22 = Thursday
Patch 10 - 04/26 = Monday
Patch 11 - 05/06 = Thursday
Patch 12 - 05/13 = Thursday
Patch 12.1 - 05/17 = Monday
Patch 13 - 05/20 = Thursday
Patch 14 - 06/01 = Tuesday
Patch 15 - 06/03 = Thursday

So, 10 out of 15 were on a Thursday or Friday. They're not adverse to doing upgrades later in the week.

Besides, its Beta, why WOULDN'T they allow the system to get stress tested?
jamesr12
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1549 Posts
June 26 2010 16:57 GMT
#165
everyone saying OMG blizz only patches on monday or tuesday just got owned
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=306479
Jenslyn87
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark527 Posts
June 26 2010 17:12 GMT
#166
Damn, sounds like it's plausible. Please please please :-)
Hmmm, I wonder what terran is doiAAAAARGH BANSHEEEEES
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
June 26 2010 17:19 GMT
#167
On June 26 2010 20:09 Beyonder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2010 19:52 danl9rm wrote:
On June 26 2010 19:33 Beyonder wrote:
I'm really happy with this. Just after my bachelor thesis too! Thanks :D


you have to do a bachelor thesis?!

what field?

Psychology It's not that big of a deal. Some people hold an experiment, others just cover literature.


Ohhhhh, now that you mention it, I remember a dorm-mate of mine having to do some kind of experiment or something at the end of his. I guess he was the only psych major I knew.

I had just never heard of a bachelor thesis before. Writing papers is the worst!
"Science has so well established that the preborn baby in the womb is a living human being that most pro-choice activists have conceded the point. ..since the abortion proponents have lost the science argument, they are now advocating an existential one."
mikado
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia407 Posts
June 26 2010 17:21 GMT
#168
On June 27 2010 01:26 Stratos_speAr wrote:
It'd be stupid to do that on a Thursday.



Why?
perditissimus
SichuanPanda
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1542 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-26 17:39:45
June 26 2010 17:37 GMT
#169
Hopefully this isn't a rumor. From a development point of view July 1st makes a lot of sense for Blizzard, they can run it for roughly 20 days, and then have a week after that before launch.

Edit: They do it on Thursday/Friday because they know a lot of players don't play during the week, to get as accurate a stress test as possible it makes sense to do it on these days as for many people this is the end of their work week (some people work weekends and take Friday off). So having tests of this nature on such days usually means more players will be playing.
i-bonjwa
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
June 26 2010 17:40 GMT
#170
On June 27 2010 02:37 SichuanPanda wrote:
Hopefully this isn't a rumor. From a development point of view July 1st makes a lot of sense for Blizzard, they can run it for roughly 20 days, and then have a week after that before launch.

Edit: They do it on Thursday/Friday because they know a lot of players don't play during the week, to get as accurate a stress test as possible it makes sense to do it on these days as for many people this is the end of their work week (some people work weekends and take Friday off). So having tests of this nature on such days usually means more players will be playing.


Or do it the 28th and have more time to test and more room to fix major problems the first week.

I still think that'd be the more logical choice.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
Jenslyn87
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark527 Posts
June 26 2010 17:42 GMT
#171
Do you guys know if the beta will run up until right before the game is released, or if there will be, say, a week without any possibility for gaming?
Hmmm, I wonder what terran is doiAAAAARGH BANSHEEEEES
Zhek
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada342 Posts
June 26 2010 17:44 GMT
#172
On June 27 2010 02:42 Jenslyn87 wrote:
Do you guys know if the beta will run up until right before the game is released, or if there will be, say, a week without any possibility for gaming?


The beta will stop 2 weeks before release. Or something like that.
jamesr12
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1549 Posts
June 26 2010 17:44 GMT
#173
they said two weeks so if it comes out on the first that be 12 days of no sc2
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=306479
Jenslyn87
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark527 Posts
June 26 2010 17:49 GMT
#174
Zhek: I've never seen them say that... are you sure it will go down two weeks before release?
Hmmm, I wonder what terran is doiAAAAARGH BANSHEEEEES
mnck
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark1518 Posts
June 26 2010 17:57 GMT
#175
I must say that I don't think it's as much about when is the most optimal time to start the 2nd phase of the beta. But it's more an issue of when have they fixed their new hardware they're going to add to meet the demands of release.

I'm sure they're eager to start the second phase as soon as they can, once the technical difficulties have been sorted out. I don't think there are any reasons to delay anything, the more beta time they get, the better, I'm sure they feel like that.
@Munck
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
June 26 2010 18:02 GMT
#176
On June 27 2010 02:40 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2010 02:37 SichuanPanda wrote:
Hopefully this isn't a rumor. From a development point of view July 1st makes a lot of sense for Blizzard, they can run it for roughly 20 days, and then have a week after that before launch.

Edit: They do it on Thursday/Friday because they know a lot of players don't play during the week, to get as accurate a stress test as possible it makes sense to do it on these days as for many people this is the end of their work week (some people work weekends and take Friday off). So having tests of this nature on such days usually means more players will be playing.


Or do it the 28th and have more time to test and more room to fix major problems the first week.

I still think that'd be the more logical choice.


No because they're not going to get a release stress test on a Monday like they would on a Thursday.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
June 26 2010 18:11 GMT
#177
On June 27 2010 03:02 Amber[LighT] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2010 02:40 Stratos_speAr wrote:
On June 27 2010 02:37 SichuanPanda wrote:
Hopefully this isn't a rumor. From a development point of view July 1st makes a lot of sense for Blizzard, they can run it for roughly 20 days, and then have a week after that before launch.

Edit: They do it on Thursday/Friday because they know a lot of players don't play during the week, to get as accurate a stress test as possible it makes sense to do it on these days as for many people this is the end of their work week (some people work weekends and take Friday off). So having tests of this nature on such days usually means more players will be playing.


Or do it the 28th and have more time to test and more room to fix major problems the first week.

I still think that'd be the more logical choice.


No because they're not going to get a release stress test on a Monday like they would on a Thursday.


Thursday isn't a Friday - it's still a really busy day.

Not only that, they aren't testing for one day of stress, they're testing for a release-like situation.

It makes the most sense so we can avoid something like what happened with patch 13 (I think that was the patch number). For all intents and purposes, that patch was a complete disaster, being released late in the week (a Thurday/Friday) and people couldn't play at all (getting random DC's/lockups consantly) for the better part of 4 days. They would be much more capable of fixing something like this during the week than over a weekend.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
Ighox
Profile Joined July 2009
Norway580 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-26 18:17:48
June 26 2010 18:12 GMT
#178
On June 27 2010 02:49 Jenslyn87 wrote:
Zhek: I've never seen them say that... are you sure it will go down two weeks before release?

They have never said that, they have just said that phase2 would run for around 2 weeks.

Also, a lot of you guys in this thread are taking the numbers too seriously, they NEVER stated that it will run for exactly xx days or anything like that, they've just given out some rough estimates.


For all intents and purposes, that patch was a complete disaster, being released late in the week (a Thurday/Friday) and people couldn't play at all (getting random DC's/lockups consantly) for the better part of 4 days. They would be much more capable of fixing something like this during the week than over a weekend.

I hate to say it because this term gets thrown around too much, but it's beta.
If anything they should open it up on a really busy day, on a time where people are most likely to break b.net completely, just so they get some more valuable data before the official launch.
ckw
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1018 Posts
June 26 2010 18:17 GMT
#179
On June 27 2010 03:12 Ighox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2010 02:49 Jenslyn87 wrote:
Zhek: I've never seen them say that... are you sure it will go down two weeks before release?

They have never said that, they have just said that phase2 would run for around 2 weeks.

Also, a lot of you guys in this thread are taking the numbers too seriously, they NEVER stated that it will run for exactly xx days or anything like that, they've just given out some rough estimates.


Exactly, it's a BETA test so you can't really put an exact timeline on it. If things go fine, sure but if otherwise they will have to keep it live longer in order to fix certain issues that may arise.
Being weak is a choice.
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
June 26 2010 18:20 GMT
#180
I hate to say it because this term gets thrown around too much, but it's beta.
If anything they should open it up on a really busy day, on a time where people are most likely to break b.net completely, just so they get some more valuable data before the official launch.


Except you don't want that problem to linger - that just eats up valuable test time and turns days that people could have spent playing into wasted time. Sure, you want to see these problems, but you want to do it at a time when people will actually be there to fix these problems.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
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