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zoltanqc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada171 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-19 02:18:24
July 19 2010 02:13 GMT
#761
Yeah, I want 120hz for more smoothness when playing FPS (mostly quake). I think some monitors have true 120hz + Show Spoiler +
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009222&cm_re=120hz-_-24-009-222-_-Product


I never played on a 2ms 60hz monitor before so I dont know how it compares to a 120hz.

My main concern is about being sure that the the VGA to DVI adapter can output 120hz.
AND THEN, THE INTERNETS EXPLODED.
R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
July 19 2010 02:36 GMT
#762
I don't see what's wrong with a 60hz monitor. People have played with them before I think.
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Lanyth
Profile Joined July 2008
Canada62 Posts
July 19 2010 02:43 GMT
#763
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This is what I'm currently thinking of ordering. My budget is currently $900~ and this currently ends up being $919.39 after taxes and shipping cost. I was thinking if anyone had any second opinions on this.
Gokey
Profile Joined November 2006
United States2722 Posts
July 19 2010 02:51 GMT
#764
Was just thinking...

1. Phenom II X2 555 or Athlon II 635? Both are around $100 right now... What is the difference?

2. Is the DR3 1600 RAM worth getting over 1333 at all? The price difference is a just a few dollars it seems...
R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
July 19 2010 02:56 GMT
#765
Phenom has 6mb L3 Cache, 2 cores, and unlocked multiplier. You have a chance at unlocking cores that have been turned off, up to four.

Athlon has no L3 cache, 4 cores.

Those are the details, I don't know how those stats are put together for a better gaming performance.

If it's around $5 for a change of 1333 to 1600, get it. But does your mobo support that speed?
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Gokey
Profile Joined November 2006
United States2722 Posts
July 19 2010 03:00 GMT
#766
The mobo supports 1600 as OC... Not sure if it's worth it if it's like that...

Also, the mobo has "Core Unlocking", whatever that means... (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130275)... Is this usually a difficult/risky process?
R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
July 19 2010 03:14 GMT
#767
Unlocking is easy. You just select enable Core Unlocking and then your computer restarts. If it unlocked you're good to go. Even if they do unlock they might be unstable though. So trial and error is the way to go.

Get the 1600 if you want to future-proof.
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R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
July 19 2010 03:18 GMT
#768
On July 19 2010 11:43 Lanyth wrote:
[image loading]
This is what I'm currently thinking of ordering. My budget is currently $900~ and this currently ends up being $919.39 after taxes and shipping cost. I was thinking if anyone had any second opinions on this.



You can cut costs by selecting a cheaper model of RAM.
Also you can pair up the Spinpoint F3 with a 550w Fatal1ty PSU and save some more.

What did you pair your 955 with? Did you try this?
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nineninja9
Profile Joined March 2010
United States194 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-19 03:22:04
July 19 2010 03:21 GMT
#769
Lanyth:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Same stuff, a bit cheaper overall. If you're really set on the cm692 you can get it.


Gokey:
L3 cache makes the phenom series a bit speedier overall. Basically the way a processor works is if it doesn't have access to required data in registers, it goes to cache, then memory (RAM), then to the hard disk. Since cache is faster than getting data from memory, a third level of cache means your system wastes less time reading from RAM. I'd explain it more in depth but I'm a bit lazy to.
Gokey
Profile Joined November 2006
United States2722 Posts
July 19 2010 03:22 GMT
#770
Tom's Hardware doesn't have the Phenom II 555 or the Athlon II 635... But comparing the Phenom 550 and the Athlon 630 (which should be similar?), the Athlon 630 destroys the Phenom 550 in almost every benchmark... Hmm
R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
July 19 2010 03:26 GMT
#771
Gokey try this

http://www.anandtech.com/show/2923/6
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nineninja9
Profile Joined March 2010
United States194 Posts
July 19 2010 03:28 GMT
#772
Many benchmarks are highly multithreaded, which means the quadcore athlon will beat a dual core phenom. Games generally don't use more than 2 cores, and in those situations I'm fairly certain a dual core phenom will perform better.
Lanyth
Profile Joined July 2008
Canada62 Posts
July 19 2010 03:31 GMT
#773
I don't have access to the same the combos because I'm Canadian. So I can't really do that.

Also, yes I did use this combo http://www.newegg.ca/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.436883

I switched my RAM with this instead to lower my cost. Is this okay? http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231190
Gokey
Profile Joined November 2006
United States2722 Posts
July 19 2010 03:34 GMT
#774
What's the % chance of unlocking cores on the Phenom 555 BE? And are there any ways to maximze the chance, or is it entirely on how it was manufactured?
R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-19 03:37:13
July 19 2010 03:34 GMT
#775
D: Why is there so much shipping. =/

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231253
Although it doesn't have heatspreaders, RAM shouldn't get very hot unless you overclock them.

Gokey: It's entirely how they're manufactured. The 555 BEs originally started as 955s, but if the 955s had faulty cores they would be turned into 555s to make up the loss. If that was the only way 555s were manufactured there obviously wouldn't be enough 555s in the market. There are also some 955s that are perfectly fine but are turned into 555s.

AMD doesn't manufacture the 555 chip because that would require a completely different assembly line, so they just disable cores on the 955.
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nineninja9
Profile Joined March 2010
United States194 Posts
July 19 2010 03:42 GMT
#776
Can't believe I missed that, my mistake Lanyth.

Maybe try and work this combo RAM+Mobo into your build? It's the same one as we get in the states, and I still think it's a very good deal. It's a shame you guys get so few cpu/gpu combos, but I think the $39 savings on this combo is still the better choice overall.
Lanyth
Profile Joined July 2008
Canada62 Posts
July 19 2010 04:43 GMT
#777
On July 19 2010 12:42 nineninja9 wrote:
Can't believe I missed that, my mistake Lanyth.

Maybe try and work this combo RAM+Mobo into your build? It's the same one as we get in the states, and I still think it's a very good deal. It's a shame you guys get so few cpu/gpu combos, but I think the $39 savings on this combo is still the better choice overall.

Yeah, I think I'll go with that the RAM isn't much different and I can save more money than the CPU + Mobo combo before. Thanks.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-19 04:56:02
July 19 2010 04:53 GMT
#778
On July 19 2010 09:48 FragKrag wrote:
heatspreaders really aren't all that useful if you don't plan on pushing the ram.

in general for ddr3 they aren't that useful most of the times the micro layer used to thinly cover them works just fine., but it's an ascetic choice for alot of ram makers.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11554 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-19 04:56:56
July 19 2010 04:56 GMT
#779
yeah, it works to some degree too. I wouldn't have any trouble putting down an extra $40 for some Corsair Dominator heatsinks (though the ICs in the Dominators are probably superior as well) because they are pretty fucking sexy.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
SONE
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada839 Posts
July 19 2010 04:58 GMT
#780
Just my personal opinion for Canadian consumers, even since newegg now has a Canadian site, www.ncix.com has always been better whenever I needed computer parts and such.
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