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Sirakor
Profile Joined April 2003
Great Britain455 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-07 03:45:34
May 07 2010 03:40 GMT
#41
I'm pretty skeptical about this, but since coming up with a plausible theory was asked for, here goes ... Firstly, I guess through training, mediation, genetic predisposition, whatever, a body can adapt to all sorts of things - within limits. So whilst it might be recommended that you drink 3L of water per day, and less than 1L might not be healthy, I guess you could adapt to live of a lot less. The same is probably also true for nutrition. I'm not saying you can adapt to living without water and nutrient uptake, this I'd say is impossible. All I'm saying is you can probably reduce your needs significantly.

Ok, since you're still going to need some nutrients, the question is where they come from. I don't think a mutation is a plausible explanation, because you'd need a very large number of mutations, or basically the introduction of new genes which is just too unlikely to have spontaneously occurred. At least into his genome, which is what the explanation could be: he is a symbiotic organism.

Now before you laugh, there are all sorts of amazing bacteria and fungi on this planet that can do all sorts of funky things. Some of these buggers are able to metabolize compounds that would spell instantaneous death to any other living being. And some of these creatures don't live by themselves, but actually regularly undergo symbiosis with other beings. You might now about trees and fungi, but there are other more applicable examples.

For example nitrogen fixing bacteria in root nodules. In addition to carbon, most creatures need a nitrogen source (which is why you fertilize plants, to add nitrogen; carbon is available in the air). These bacteria can infect plant roots and adopt a symbiotic lifestyle to fix nitrogen in exchange for nutrients. Fixing nitrogen basically means to extract gaseous nitrogen from the air and provide it to the plant in a way it can metabolize, a function that the plant alone does not posses (normally it extracts different nitrogen compounds from the soil).

Another example a marsupials (a kangaroo is a good example). You might know that these animals give birth extremely early on, and then carry their joeys around in a pouch. Ever wondered how the joey can breathe inside the pouch? They suck on a teat that provides milk, but the mother has no way to supply oxygen. The answer are bacteria inhabiting the pouch that can release oxygen as a byproduct of their metabolism.

Last but not least, we humans can only live and digest our food thanks to the huge numbers of bacteria inhabiting our intestines - e.g. the famous e. coli.

So ... if the guy in question has been infected with the right kind of bacteria, lets say a nitrogen fixing strain, and a carbon fixing strain, then these buggers would be able to extract nutrients from the air, possibly also water, which would make it appear as though he lives off breathing only. Couple that with a reduced need for nutrients etc through adaptation, and it might just work. Not that I think it'd be likely, but maybe that's what's happening?
zizou21
Profile Joined September 2006
United States3683 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-07 03:40:45
May 07 2010 03:40 GMT
#42
On May 07 2010 10:59 Assault_1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
"Heavier-than-air flying machines are impossible" -- Lord Kelvin, 1892


guess he hasn't seen birds before


ahah i dont know y but i lost it here
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GiantEnemyCrab
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada503 Posts
May 07 2010 03:43 GMT
#43
hes been mediating his whole life so hes body is use to it
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deth
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia1757 Posts
May 07 2010 03:54 GMT
#44
fucking meditation, how does it work?

On a serious note, I'm really skeptical but I'm willing to humor the possibility of truth.
Wings
Profile Joined January 2010
United States999 Posts
May 07 2010 04:02 GMT
#45
question. why was this test so short? it doesn't seem very long in comparison to, uh, 70 years lol...
The probability of Kim Carrier getting all those predictions wrong is similar to the probability Flash loses a TvT. Kim Carrier MUST BE a genius. His only big mistake... STORK.
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-07 04:06:15
May 07 2010 04:04 GMT
#46
question why are they testing him at all?


how can they even begin to entertain the notion that this is possible.
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
May 07 2010 04:04 GMT
#47
On May 07 2010 13:04 Coagulation wrote:
question why are they testing him at all?


To see if the limits of human endurance? D:
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
Wings
Profile Joined January 2010
United States999 Posts
May 07 2010 04:06 GMT
#48
On May 07 2010 13:04 Coagulation wrote:
question why are they testing him at all?

lol i wondered that too, but assuming he can survive a relatively long amount of time without water, it might be worth studying why and how that might help science.
The probability of Kim Carrier getting all those predictions wrong is similar to the probability Flash loses a TvT. Kim Carrier MUST BE a genius. His only big mistake... STORK.
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
May 07 2010 04:08 GMT
#49
On May 07 2010 12:40 Sirakor wrote:
Another example a marsupials (a kangaroo is a good example). You might know that these animals give birth extremely early on, and then carry their joeys around in a pouch. Ever wondered how the joey can breathe inside the pouch? They suck on a teat that provides milk, but the mother has no way to supply oxygen. The answer are bacteria inhabiting the pouch that can release oxygen as a byproduct of their metabolism.


Wow, I didn't know this at all, reaally cool stuff :D
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illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
May 07 2010 04:08 GMT
#50
On come on. We all know it's physically impossible to perform body functions without energy.
:]
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
May 07 2010 04:09 GMT
#51
let me quote an earlier post i made:
to all people who say this could be an abnormality or some amazing developed technique: HE SURVIVED 70 (SEVENTY) YEARS WITHOUT FOOD OR WATER. if you even remotely believe it (all you people who say "i have an open mind" or "there is a small chance") need to fucking open your eyes and realize that ITS NOT POSSIBLE.

this isn't a guy claiming he did it for a month by slowing his metabolism. its a guy saying that he hadn't had food or water since he was 13 years old. its a guy saying that he didn't take a shit, didn't spit out any water.

oh i just thought of the perfect counter-argument while writing this. THIS GUY GREW WITHOUT EATING FOOD OR WATER. he went through puberty, he grew a fucking beard, he probably grew fingernails and shit too. unless he just inflated since he was 13 or looked like that for 70 years, ITS NOT POSSIBLE, GET OVER IT.


if you believe this is remotely possible you are unbelievably thick.
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tinman
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States287 Posts
May 07 2010 04:15 GMT
#52
it is funny how many people start their posts with a disclaimer like

"i don't think it's really possible BUT..."

guess what. homeboy did not live for 70 years without food or water. he may have survived for 15 days in a controlled environment with only gargling, but who really gives a damn about that? so he may be a couple standard deviations above the mean on how long he can go without a drink.

big flipping deal.

here's the thing. you either "humor the possibility" because you honestly think it might be true, in which case you need to read a book. or you humor the possibility because you secretly, desperately want it to be true, in which case you probably need to examine the roots of your own deep dissatisfaction with the facts of the universe. hell it'll be good for you to do that anyway. knock yourself out.
"Politics is an extravagance, an extravagance about grievances. And poetry is an extravagance about grief. And grievances are something that can be remedied, and griefs are irremediable."
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-07 04:27:46
May 07 2010 04:24 GMT
#53
This will get NOWHERE 99% of post's Call bullshit
1% know its not true but cant resist trolling



maybe make a new thread about "The survivability and endurance of humans" where people can actually have a constructive exchange of thoughts on the matter.

Oh and this is hardly "More news" on the subject. the last post was closed for a reason. This turn of events hardly warrants an update.

Update us in 50 years and i might entertain the idea that somethings up.
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
May 07 2010 04:26 GMT
#54
Guys, I can go twelve hours without breathing. I can put a youtube up of me not breathing for a minute, they will prove I can go twelve hours!
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
May 07 2010 04:29 GMT
#55
On May 07 2010 13:26 randombum wrote:
Guys, I can go twelve hours without breathing. I can put a youtube up of me not breathing for a minute, they will prove I can go twelve hours!

And during that minute, you'll be allowed to open your mouth and let some air in, right? Not to breathe into your lungs of course, just to air out your mouth a bit.
Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4839 Posts
May 07 2010 04:29 GMT
#56
On May 07 2010 13:26 randombum wrote:
Guys, I can go twelve hours without breathing. I can put a youtube up of me not breathing for a minute, they will prove I can go twelve hours!

Obviously if you can not breathe for a minute, you can do it 720 more times. Inform the army so they can start breeding super-soldiers.

On May 07 2010 13:08 illu wrote:
On come on. We all know it's physically impossible to perform body functions without energy.

This.
My strategy is to fork people.
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
May 07 2010 04:32 GMT
#57
On May 07 2010 13:29 Slow Motion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2010 13:26 randombum wrote:
Guys, I can go twelve hours without breathing. I can put a youtube up of me not breathing for a minute, they will prove I can go twelve hours!

And during that minute, you'll be allowed to open your mouth and let some air in, right? Not to breathe into your lungs of course, just to air out your mouth a bit.


hahahah air your mouth out a bit
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Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
May 07 2010 04:33 GMT
#58
you know what pisses me off most about this .. its pushing down other actually informative and insightful threads like the "have you ever been caught jacking off?" topic
Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4839 Posts
May 07 2010 04:53 GMT
#59
On May 07 2010 13:33 Coagulation wrote:
you know what pisses me off most about this .. its pushing down other actually informative and insightful threads like the "have you ever been caught jacking off?" topic

Merge the threads IMO.
My strategy is to fork people.
tinman
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States287 Posts
May 07 2010 04:58 GMT
#60
On May 07 2010 13:29 Slow Motion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2010 13:26 randombum wrote:
Guys, I can go twelve hours without breathing. I can put a youtube up of me not breathing for a minute, they will prove I can go twelve hours!

And during that minute, you'll be allowed to open your mouth and let some air in, right? Not to breathe into your lungs of course, just to air out your mouth a bit.


On May 07 2010 13:53 Severedevil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2010 13:33 Coagulation wrote:
you know what pisses me off most about this .. its pushing down other actually informative and insightful threads like the "have you ever been caught jacking off?" topic

Merge the threads IMO.


i ROLFd on both posts. i'll admit it.
"Politics is an extravagance, an extravagance about grievances. And poetry is an extravagance about grief. And grievances are something that can be remedied, and griefs are irremediable."
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