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Sauron
Profile Joined November 2008
Romania169 Posts
December 11 2009 22:35 GMT
#81
Wow, 22 minutes againts Jaedong! Congrats!
Soothsayer
Catch]22
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden2683 Posts
December 11 2009 22:36 GMT
#82
On December 12 2009 07:34 redtooth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2009 05:28 Catch]22 wrote:
No, seriously, when I say confirmed smufs, I really mean confirmed smurfs, like checking previous season stats etc.

Show nested quote +
On December 12 2009 06:57 Catch]22 wrote:
Unfortunately, most of these "known smurfs" are from people who would log into a C+ or B- account later on, usually baited by some "yeah, no, you're not B" or w/e. So there's not really much hard evidence to provide.


Percieving a trend doesnt mean I know exactly which games it was, or on which account.
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5461 Posts
December 11 2009 22:37 GMT
#83
On December 12 2009 07:35 Sauron wrote:
Wow, 22 minutes againts Jaedong! Congrats!
jaedong was just stalling:
On December 12 2009 05:05 Catch]22 wrote: They are worse than the stallers, who after doing some form of successfull harass to bring you down to just one base or something still has to macro up to 200/200 3/3 and take every expand on the map before you finish the game.
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Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-11 22:38:23
December 11 2009 22:37 GMT
#84
On December 12 2009 07:36 Catch]22 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2009 07:34 redtooth wrote:
On December 12 2009 05:28 Catch]22 wrote:
No, seriously, when I say confirmed smufs, I really mean confirmed smurfs, like checking previous season stats etc.

On December 12 2009 06:57 Catch]22 wrote:
Unfortunately, most of these "known smurfs" are from people who would log into a C+ or B- account later on, usually baited by some "yeah, no, you're not B" or w/e. So there's not really much hard evidence to provide.


Percieving a trend doesnt mean I know exactly which games it was, or on which account.


Your perception is even worse than your skill so.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5461 Posts
December 11 2009 22:43 GMT
#85
On December 12 2009 07:36 Catch]22 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2009 07:34 redtooth wrote:
On December 12 2009 05:28 Catch]22 wrote:
No, seriously, when I say confirmed smufs, I really mean confirmed smurfs, like checking previous season stats etc.

On December 12 2009 06:57 Catch]22 wrote:
Unfortunately, most of these "known smurfs" are from people who would log into a C+ or B- account later on, usually baited by some "yeah, no, you're not B" or w/e. So there's not really much hard evidence to provide.


Percieving a trend doesnt mean I know exactly which games it was, or on which account.
dude just give it up already and admit that you were wrong and are a whiny scrub. you come in here basing your claim off of crappy anecdotal evidence (YOUR anecdotal evidence...) and expect us to provide you with sympathy. when the first person calls bullshit on your story, you get all defensive but refuse to admit that you were wrong. when someone asked you to provide concrete evidence you start contradicting yourself and make bullshit statements like that one in order to cover your tracks. what do you hope to gain by arguing on?
[formerly sponsored by the artist formerly known as Gene]
NevilleS
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada266 Posts
December 11 2009 22:46 GMT
#86
On December 12 2009 07:36 Catch]22 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2009 07:34 redtooth wrote:
On December 12 2009 05:28 Catch]22 wrote:
No, seriously, when I say confirmed smufs, I really mean confirmed smurfs, like checking previous season stats etc.

On December 12 2009 06:57 Catch]22 wrote:
Unfortunately, most of these "known smurfs" are from people who would log into a C+ or B- account later on, usually baited by some "yeah, no, you're not B" or w/e. So there's not really much hard evidence to provide.


Percieving a trend doesnt mean I know exactly which games it was, or on which account.


So you have multiple accounts? Isn't that the very nature of smurfing? What, do you play on your D- account sometimes instead of at D+?
asl-ninja
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
78 Posts
December 11 2009 22:48 GMT
#87
u should stop being such a retard ;o
Entusman #41 asl-ninja!
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
December 11 2009 22:49 GMT
#88
On December 12 2009 07:48 asl-ninja wrote:
u should stop being such a retard ;o

You're not one to talk. You BM'd the shit out of me for beating you while I was laddering when I am just a struggling C- player LOL.
Peace~
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5461 Posts
December 11 2009 22:51 GMT
#89
On December 12 2009 07:49 fanatacist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2009 07:48 asl-ninja wrote:
u should stop being such a retard ;o

You're not one to talk. You BM'd the shit out of me for beating you while I was laddering when I am just a struggling C- player LOL.
and he's a struggling D+ player:
http://www.iccup.com/gamingprofile/asl-ninja.html
[formerly sponsored by the artist formerly known as Gene]
avilo
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States4100 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-11 22:55:45
December 11 2009 22:54 GMT
#90
On December 12 2009 05:42 Catch]22 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2009 05:39 fanatacist wrote:
On December 12 2009 05:36 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
On December 12 2009 05:05 Catch]22 wrote: They are worse than the stallers, who after doing some form of successfull harass to bring you down to just one base or something still has to macro up to 200/200 3/3 and take every expand on the map before you finish the game.


This I dont understand, I have 6 expansions and my opponent has 1 expansion max. Still not leaving game. I personally leave games if I am behind right away not stall.

Playing against really bad odds improves your gameplay because you are still microing and macroing (sometimes, I guess), trying to think of ways to slow you down and hold your superior numbers off. I think that improves overall play in itself, so sometimes it is worth doing, especially at lower levels. If you have 6 bases and he has 1, you should be able to end the game in one wave of units. Just do it.

I think it's different if you are facing say Terran and they have you completely contained and you can't do ANYTHING (no harass no hidden expo no anything), then it's time to go. Those people ARE assholes some of the time, but often they are just people who want to be extra safe and don't mind spending more time to practice their timings or their mass base control.


If what they want to do is just practice macroing from a few/bazillion hatcheries, while not doing ANYTHING ELSE, they might aswell do it in single player instead of wasting my time.


Did you ever consider you are wasting THEIR time by staying in the game when you know you lost? Seems like you are not as good as you think you are.

Man, I really hate those noobies, that, when I have beaten them, they stay in the game, stalling the game, so I decide to max out to 200/200 3-3 to practice my macro.
Sup
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-11 22:57:13
December 11 2009 22:54 GMT
#91
the op, along with everyone else who makes these kinds of blogs, need a nice cup of stfu.
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
December 11 2009 22:58 GMT
#92
On December 12 2009 07:51 redtooth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2009 07:49 fanatacist wrote:
On December 12 2009 07:48 asl-ninja wrote:
u should stop being such a retard ;o

You're not one to talk. You BM'd the shit out of me for beating you while I was laddering when I am just a struggling C- player LOL.
and he's a struggling D+ player:
http://www.iccup.com/gamingprofile/asl-ninja.html

So that makes it okay for him to BM me as if I'm some sort of asshole smurf when I'm just starting a new season? Please, that kind of mentality aligns you with catch]22.
Peace~
Catch]22
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden2683 Posts
December 11 2009 22:59 GMT
#93
On December 12 2009 07:43 redtooth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2009 07:36 Catch]22 wrote:
On December 12 2009 07:34 redtooth wrote:
On December 12 2009 05:28 Catch]22 wrote:
No, seriously, when I say confirmed smufs, I really mean confirmed smurfs, like checking previous season stats etc.

On December 12 2009 06:57 Catch]22 wrote:
Unfortunately, most of these "known smurfs" are from people who would log into a C+ or B- account later on, usually baited by some "yeah, no, you're not B" or w/e. So there's not really much hard evidence to provide.


Percieving a trend doesnt mean I know exactly which games it was, or on which account.
dude just give it up already and admit that you were wrong and are a whiny scrub. you come in here basing your claim off of crappy anecdotal evidence (YOUR anecdotal evidence...) and expect us to provide you with sympathy. when the first person calls bullshit on your story, you get all defensive but refuse to admit that you were wrong. when someone asked you to provide concrete evidence you start contradicting yourself and make bullshit statements like that one in order to cover your tracks. what do you hope to gain by arguing on?


Obviously, since people in this thread seem to think anyone who is relatively new to the game total shit and beyond hope, there isn't much to gain.

Admitting that I'm wrong? Well, I already said that you made a good point about not being scared of playing against better players (which got me flamed, because I said that I knew I couldnt beat flash, seriously?)

But no, I know the difference between losing to another D+ player, even when I screw up completely and get totaled. I'hve had a sudden surge of smurfers, and it has been really frustrating.

fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
December 11 2009 23:01 GMT
#94
On December 12 2009 07:59 Catch]22 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2009 07:43 redtooth wrote:
On December 12 2009 07:36 Catch]22 wrote:
On December 12 2009 07:34 redtooth wrote:
On December 12 2009 05:28 Catch]22 wrote:
No, seriously, when I say confirmed smufs, I really mean confirmed smurfs, like checking previous season stats etc.

On December 12 2009 06:57 Catch]22 wrote:
Unfortunately, most of these "known smurfs" are from people who would log into a C+ or B- account later on, usually baited by some "yeah, no, you're not B" or w/e. So there's not really much hard evidence to provide.


Percieving a trend doesnt mean I know exactly which games it was, or on which account.
dude just give it up already and admit that you were wrong and are a whiny scrub. you come in here basing your claim off of crappy anecdotal evidence (YOUR anecdotal evidence...) and expect us to provide you with sympathy. when the first person calls bullshit on your story, you get all defensive but refuse to admit that you were wrong. when someone asked you to provide concrete evidence you start contradicting yourself and make bullshit statements like that one in order to cover your tracks. what do you hope to gain by arguing on?


Obviously, since people in this thread seem to think anyone who is relatively new to the game total shit and beyond hope, there isn't much to gain.

Admitting that I'm wrong? Well, I already said that you made a good point about not being scared of playing against better players (which got me flamed, because I said that I knew I couldnt beat flash, seriously?)

But no, I know the difference between losing to another D+ player, even when I screw up completely and get totaled. I'hve had a sudden surge of smurfers, and it has been really frustrating.


So why can't you post your matchlist so we can know who these miscreants are? Oh right.
Peace~
Catch]22
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden2683 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-11 23:05:11
December 11 2009 23:04 GMT
#95
On December 12 2009 08:01 fanatacist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2009 07:59 Catch]22 wrote:
On December 12 2009 07:43 redtooth wrote:
On December 12 2009 07:36 Catch]22 wrote:
On December 12 2009 07:34 redtooth wrote:
On December 12 2009 05:28 Catch]22 wrote:
No, seriously, when I say confirmed smufs, I really mean confirmed smurfs, like checking previous season stats etc.

On December 12 2009 06:57 Catch]22 wrote:
Unfortunately, most of these "known smurfs" are from people who would log into a C+ or B- account later on, usually baited by some "yeah, no, you're not B" or w/e. So there's not really much hard evidence to provide.


Percieving a trend doesnt mean I know exactly which games it was, or on which account.
dude just give it up already and admit that you were wrong and are a whiny scrub. you come in here basing your claim off of crappy anecdotal evidence (YOUR anecdotal evidence...) and expect us to provide you with sympathy. when the first person calls bullshit on your story, you get all defensive but refuse to admit that you were wrong. when someone asked you to provide concrete evidence you start contradicting yourself and make bullshit statements like that one in order to cover your tracks. what do you hope to gain by arguing on?


Obviously, since people in this thread seem to think anyone who is relatively new to the game total shit and beyond hope, there isn't much to gain.

Admitting that I'm wrong? Well, I already said that you made a good point about not being scared of playing against better players (which got me flamed, because I said that I knew I couldnt beat flash, seriously?)

But no, I know the difference between losing to another D+ player, even when I screw up completely and get totaled. I'hve had a sudden surge of smurfers, and it has been really frustrating.


So why can't you post your matchlist so we can know who these miscreants are? Oh right.


Please, if that isnt obvious, I dont know what is.

People often think others reason the same way they do, so by that line of logic, you rage on players of equal skill, regardless of their actual ability.

I wouldnt start the blog if I didnt think there was something to be angry about.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
December 11 2009 23:12 GMT
#96
why cant you link your matchlist
s_86
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States191 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-11 23:21:24
December 11 2009 23:17 GMT
#97
Different people have different views on what they like and what they don't like. Why is there so much hate in this thread.
Yes some people love getting stomped by people who are 3 ranks above them, but there are some people who don't like getting stomped by people who are 3 ranks above them. Blaming 'smurfs' can be used as a scapegoat, but smurfing is definitely something that occurs on iccup a lot. Also, not everyone is on iccup to learn by being stomped on, some people are there hoping for a equally skilled opponent with antihack and lan latency.
Spread the love guys.

Edit: Personally, when I play tennis, I prefer matches where the ball goes back and forth many times before a point is scored, compared to a match against some opponent who just Ace's me everytime with some crazy serve. I enjoy tennis most, when my opponent is about equally skilled as I am, StarCraft is the same for me.
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5461 Posts
December 11 2009 23:18 GMT
#98
On December 12 2009 07:58 fanatacist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2009 07:51 redtooth wrote:
On December 12 2009 07:49 fanatacist wrote:
On December 12 2009 07:48 asl-ninja wrote:
u should stop being such a retard ;o

You're not one to talk. You BM'd the shit out of me for beating you while I was laddering when I am just a struggling C- player LOL.
and he's a struggling D+ player:
http://www.iccup.com/gamingprofile/asl-ninja.html

So that makes it okay for him to BM me as if I'm some sort of asshole smurf when I'm just starting a new season? Please, that kind of mentality aligns you with catch]22.
eh i actually misread your post and thought he beat you and was BMing you for it and your excuse was that you were a struggling C- player.
[formerly sponsored by the artist formerly known as Gene]
Catch]22
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden2683 Posts
December 11 2009 23:23 GMT
#99
On December 12 2009 08:17 s_86 wrote:
Different people have different views on what they like and what they don't like. Why is there so much hate in this thread.
Yes some people love getting stomped by people who are 3 ranks above them, but there are some people who don't like getting stomped by people who are 3 ranks above them. Blaming 'smurfs' can be used as a scapegoat, but smurfing is definitely something that occurs on iccup a lot. Also, not everyone is on iccup to learn by being stomped on, some people are there hoping for a equally skilled opponent with antihack and lan latency.
Spread the love guys.


Yes, games between equally skilled opponents are the most fun and rewarding.

Also, about matchlists, my older matchlist got me flamed simply for being a D+ player. This thread is rampant with people in a bad mood, and there would be bloody murder if they saw my offrace account, which ihve been playing on for the past week or two.
littlechava
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States7221 Posts
December 11 2009 23:25 GMT
#100
you're a whiny bitch
Entusman #12
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