• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 01:32
CET 06:32
KST 14:32
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting10[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced!3[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Holding On9
Community News
2025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales!9BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION1Crank Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams9Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest3Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou23
StarCraft 2
General
Could we add "Avoid Matchup" Feature for rankgame RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" The New Patch Killed Mech! Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou Weekly Cups (Oct 13-19): Clem Goes for Four
Tourneys
Crank Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams 2025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales! Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship $3,500 WardiTV Korean Royale S4
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace Mutation # 494 Unstable Environment
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions BSL Team A vs Koreans - Sat-Sun 16:00 CET [ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival BSL Season 21
Tourneys
[ASL20] Grand Finals The Casual Games of the Week Thread BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION ASL final tickets help
Strategy
How to stay on top of macro? PvZ map balance Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread The Chess Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
MLB/Baseball 2023 2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
LMAO (controversial!!)
Peanutsc
The Benefits Of Limited Comm…
TrAiDoS
Our Last Hope in th…
KrillinFromwales
Certified Crazy
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1268 users

Smurfs, go to hell. - Page 4

Forum Index > Closed
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 Next All
Catch]22
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden2683 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-11 22:01:09
December 11 2009 21:57 GMT
#61
On December 12 2009 06:21 Nytefish wrote:
Every single one of these threads has had the OP exaggerating and/or lying. Now until you prove otherwise with a match list people are going to assume you are the same.

Now you could easily shut everyone up by simply showing how you got bashed by much better players and some people might even give you some sympathy, but as it stands you're just another whiner.


Now the reason for all the hate gets pretty obvious.

Unfortunately, most of these "known smurfs" are from people who would log into a C+ or B- account later on, usually baited by some "yeah, no, you're not B" or w/e. So there's not really much hard evidence to provide.

I got better things to do than to troll about losing to someone my own level. But if thats what is the most common thing to occur, then yeah, I can see where alot of people are coming from in this thread.

Thanks Saturnize, at least someone knows what it's like to play these 850 rating 300 APMers, with micro way better than you have ever seen after hundreds of games in D+.
bEsT[Alive]
Profile Joined July 2009
606 Posts
December 11 2009 22:01 GMT
#62
The weekly smurf blog. Oh how exciting!
If you obey all the rules you miss all the fun - Katharine Hepburn
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5460 Posts
December 11 2009 22:01 GMT
#63
On December 12 2009 06:57 Catch]22 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2009 06:21 Nytefish wrote:
Every single one of these threads has had the OP exaggerating and/or lying. Now until you prove otherwise with a match list people are going to assume you are the same.

Now you could easily shut everyone up by simply showing how you got bashed by much better players and some people might even give you some sympathy, but as it stands you're just another whiner.


Now the reason for all the hate gets pretty obvious.

Unfortunately, most of these "known smurfs" are from people who would log into a C+ or B- account later on, usually baited by some "yeah, no, you're not B" or w/e. So there's not really much hard evidence to provide.
just show your match list retard. even if your opponents clear their stats we can see their match list. if all of your opponents are undefeated then we'll believe you. if not and you're losing to d- scrubs then you're a lying bastard begging for sympathy.
[formerly sponsored by the artist formerly known as Gene]
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
December 11 2009 22:01 GMT
#64
Only B- ?

You played Brat secret smurf for TSL practice
http://www.iccup.com/gamingprofile/barbyzerg.html

Still D but clear A potential.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
December 11 2009 22:03 GMT
#65
On December 12 2009 06:57 Catch]22 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2009 06:21 Nytefish wrote:
Every single one of these threads has had the OP exaggerating and/or lying. Now until you prove otherwise with a match list people are going to assume you are the same.

Now you could easily shut everyone up by simply showing how you got bashed by much better players and some people might even give you some sympathy, but as it stands you're just another whiner.


Now the reason for all the hate gets pretty obvious.

Unfortunately, most of these "known smurfs" are from people who would log into a C+ or B- account later on, usually baited by some "yeah, no, you're not B" or w/e. So there's not really much hard evidence to provide.

I got better things to do than to troll about losing to someone my own level. But if thats what is the most common thing to occur, then yeah, I can see where alot of people are coming from in this thread.

Thanks Saturnize, at least someone knows what it's like to play these 850 rating 300 APMers, with micro way better than you have ever seen after hundreds of games in D+.


a player who goes 50% to C would dazzle you with his micro
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
December 11 2009 22:04 GMT
#66
On December 12 2009 06:57 Catch]22 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2009 06:21 Nytefish wrote:
Every single one of these threads has had the OP exaggerating and/or lying. Now until you prove otherwise with a match list people are going to assume you are the same.

Now you could easily shut everyone up by simply showing how you got bashed by much better players and some people might even give you some sympathy, but as it stands you're just another whiner.


Now the reason for all the hate gets pretty obvious.

Unfortunately, most of these "known smurfs" are from people who would log into a C+ or B- account later on, usually baited by some "yeah, no, you're not B" or w/e. So there's not really much hard evidence to provide.

I got better things to do than to troll about losing to someone my own level. But if thats what is the most common thing to occur, then yeah, I can see where alot of people are coming from in this thread.

Thanks Saturnize, at least someone knows what it's like to play these 850 rating 300 APMers, with micro way better than you have ever seen after hundreds of games in D+.

Yea that reason is because you are just like every other person who whined about a few matches lost to better players, pretending like there is an epidemic of smurfs or some shit, then failing to produce any conclusive evidence. Keep mentioning 1 game that ticked you off, as if it is something that should motivate you to make a pathetic blog (even though many other people have gone through the same thing at least once, and have gotten over it or seen the benefit in it). Yea, that's the reason for all the hate. It's not about you losing to someone your own level, it's about you losing to a better person a few times and being a pussy about it.

Ohhh nooo, I played a guy who is better than me, can someone please relate?! Oh, Saturnize, you are the only one that doesn't think I'm a tool, let me latch onto you for moral support because it is so clearly unfair that I had to play against a guy with 300 apm, even though I lose to 6-8 D-level players anyway.
Peace~
Saturnize
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2473 Posts
December 11 2009 22:05 GMT
#67
I think its funny that people are complaining that "oh you are whining because you lost to a better player" but the smurf has to make a new account to play much much worse players
"Time to put the mustard on the hotdog. -_-"
Catch]22
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden2683 Posts
December 11 2009 22:06 GMT
#68
On December 12 2009 05:46 ghostWriter wrote:

"Actually, I always take full responsibility when I lose, I know that I can beat pretty much anyone, except for Flash (since i play T, lol). "

What is this LOL
You're probably really bad, please don't malign Flash's good name by associating it with yours. But, I'm glad you take responsibility for the important things in life.


You're just a cherry pie with extra sugar on it, aren't you.
Catch]22
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden2683 Posts
December 11 2009 22:08 GMT
#69
On December 12 2009 07:04 fanatacist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2009 06:57 Catch]22 wrote:
On December 12 2009 06:21 Nytefish wrote:
Every single one of these threads has had the OP exaggerating and/or lying. Now until you prove otherwise with a match list people are going to assume you are the same.

Now you could easily shut everyone up by simply showing how you got bashed by much better players and some people might even give you some sympathy, but as it stands you're just another whiner.


Now the reason for all the hate gets pretty obvious.

Unfortunately, most of these "known smurfs" are from people who would log into a C+ or B- account later on, usually baited by some "yeah, no, you're not B" or w/e. So there's not really much hard evidence to provide.

I got better things to do than to troll about losing to someone my own level. But if thats what is the most common thing to occur, then yeah, I can see where alot of people are coming from in this thread.

Thanks Saturnize, at least someone knows what it's like to play these 850 rating 300 APMers, with micro way better than you have ever seen after hundreds of games in D+.

Yea that reason is because you are just like every other person who whined about a few matches lost to better players, pretending like there is an epidemic of smurfs or some shit, then failing to produce any conclusive evidence. Keep mentioning 1 game that ticked you off, as if it is something that should motivate you to make a pathetic blog (even though many other people have gone through the same thing at least once, and have gotten over it or seen the benefit in it). Yea, that's the reason for all the hate. It's not about you losing to someone your own level, it's about you losing to a better person a few times and being a pussy about it.

Ohhh nooo, I played a guy who is better than me, can someone please relate?! Oh, Saturnize, you are the only one that doesn't think I'm a tool, let me latch onto you for moral support because it is so clearly unfair that I had to play against a guy with 300 apm, even though I lose to 6-8 D-level players anyway.


Yeah, I lose to D players, Its called being D level.

intrudor
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada446 Posts
December 11 2009 22:11 GMT
#70
Catch]22 you are a legit low-end D+ player. therefore its unlikely that your grasp on the game is deep enough to distinguish between the higher levels of starcrafting i.e. C- or above. Smurfs, as you like to label them, are perhaps only inoffensive legit C- users and not out of reach smurfing B players. Those aforementioned C- players that you find on your path are simply there to make sure that you get bumped back to D+ instead of crossing the C- frontier, therefore their presence in your starcraft world should be seen as a blessing because it ensures that you remain in your skill range (winning or losing vs D+'s and losing vs C-'s) without risking to play C users while you're standing at C-
USER MIGHT BE WARNED FOR THIS COMMENT
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
December 11 2009 22:14 GMT
#71
On December 12 2009 07:11 intrudor wrote:
Catch]22 you are a legit low-end D+ player. therefore its unlikely that your grasp on the game is deep enough to distinguish between the higher levels of starcrafting i.e. C- or above. Smurfs, as you like to label them, are perhaps only inoffensive legit C- users and not out of reach smurfing B players. Those aforementioned C- players that you find on your path are simply there to make sure that you get bumped back to D+ instead of crossing the C- frontier, therefore their presence in your starcraft world should be seen as a blessing because it ensures that you remain in your skill range (winning or losing vs D+'s and losing vs C-'s) without risking to play C users while you're standing at C-

GG
Peace~
d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
December 11 2009 22:19 GMT
#72
This blog makes me laugh.
On December 12 2009 05:28 Catch]22 wrote:

No, seriously, when I say confirmed smufs, I really mean confirmed smurfs, like checking previous season stats etc.


Oh really?
Hi.
Catch]22
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden2683 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-11 22:28:45
December 11 2009 22:26 GMT
#73
On December 12 2009 06:07 fanatacist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2009 05:57 Catch]22 wrote:
On December 12 2009 05:55 FyRe_DragOn wrote:
if you dont like starting at the bottom of a ladder, dont play on a ladder system. simple as that, dont bitch about it. also i agree that people who dont leave after they obviously cant come back are annoying to play against. and, what the fuck is the difference between "SMURFS" and regular players who are at a higher level than you? None to you i should expect, except that you dont know ahead of time their skill level, which shouldnt matter at all unless u decide to go easy against them, which is a bad idea because the only players you as a d+ player should be going easy on are d- players - and good players dont get d-


*wooosh*

Did you even read about the tankers? Do you even know what a smurf is? A smurf isn't just someone who is a better player than you, its someone who is pretending to be a new player/worse than he really is, in order to get to stomp people.


But yeah, you guys are right, I should be able to view it as a learning oppourtunity, since they make fewer mistakes, I hadn't thought of it that way.

And no, I dont play on the account Catch]22 at the moment.

At the moment. So you did, earlier this season. So within the past few months. And you are 57-113. So hypothetically speaking there should be MORE higher ranked players playing you because it is from earlier in the season. Why would you object to it? Oh right, because it becomes painfully obvious that you are a 33% winrate D+ player who wouldn't be able to tell C from A level play.


Yes, I am D+, people staying at D+ have ~that winrate, otherwise you would go up to C.

Look, something else than me is obviously bothering you, maybe you need to handle that directly instead of taking it out on me. Either that, or you dont realize that I havnt been playign for too long, or I dont have the talent of Koll.
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
December 11 2009 22:28 GMT
#74
On December 12 2009 05:50 Catch]22 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2009 05:46 NEwAcC) wrote:
lol, your concept of "stallers" is backwards I think

if your opponent gains an edge, starts taking the map + getting 200/200 and you're the one who stays in the game (by turtling up off 2 base) you're the staller


Now you're just arguing semantics.

No, he is right. You are the asshole for not leaving.
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-11 22:29:20
December 11 2009 22:28 GMT
#75
You have 0 B+/B/B- players in your match list.

Stop to whine.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5460 Posts
December 11 2009 22:32 GMT
#76
[image loading]

fucking smurfs...
[formerly sponsored by the artist formerly known as Gene]
Catch]22
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden2683 Posts
December 11 2009 22:33 GMT
#77
Damn Idra, looks like he 5raxed me
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-11 22:34:16
December 11 2009 22:33 GMT
#78
On December 12 2009 07:32 redtooth wrote:
[image loading]

fucking smurfs...

Morrow is such an abuser :/

Playing D+ for points ....
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-11 22:34:10
December 11 2009 22:33 GMT
#79
On December 12 2009 07:32 redtooth wrote:
[image loading]

fucking smurfs...


Idra is so goddamn cheesy lol
https://steamcommunity.com/id/*tlusernamehere*/
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5460 Posts
December 11 2009 22:34 GMT
#80
On December 12 2009 05:28 Catch]22 wrote:
No, seriously, when I say confirmed smufs, I really mean confirmed smurfs, like checking previous season stats etc.

On December 12 2009 06:57 Catch]22 wrote:
Unfortunately, most of these "known smurfs" are from people who would log into a C+ or B- account later on, usually baited by some "yeah, no, you're not B" or w/e. So there's not really much hard evidence to provide.
[formerly sponsored by the artist formerly known as Gene]
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
BSL 21
01:00
Open Quali #2
ZZZero.O178
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 125
SortOf 118
StarCraft: Brood War
PianO 697
ZZZero.O 178
Movie 60
Icarus 8
Dota 2
XaKoH 667
LuMiX1
League of Legends
JimRising 892
Reynor24
Counter-Strike
m0e_tv395
PGG 123
Super Smash Bros
C9.Mang0618
hungrybox422
Other Games
summit1g13966
WinterStarcraft394
Tasteless97
NeuroSwarm54
Models1
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick849
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH185
• practicex 29
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Diggity8
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo1000
• Stunt410
• HappyZerGling96
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
4h 29m
BASILISK vs Shopify Rebellion
Team Liquid vs Team Falcon
OSC
6h 29m
CrankTV Team League
7h 29m
Shopify Rebellion vs Team Liquid
BASILISK vs Team Falcon
Replay Cast
17h 29m
The PondCast
1d 3h
CrankTV Team League
1d 7h
Replay Cast
2 days
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
MaNa vs Gerald
Rogue vs GuMiho
ByuN vs Spirit
herO vs Solar
CrankTV Team League
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
[ Show More ]
BSL Team A[vengers]
3 days
Dewalt vs Shine
UltrA vs ZeLoT
BSL 21
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
BSL Team A[vengers]
4 days
Cross vs Motive
Sziky vs HiyA
BSL 21
4 days
Wardi Open
5 days
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
WardiTV TLMC #15
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

BSL 21 Points
BSL 21 Team A
C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
CranK Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025

Upcoming

SC4ALL: Brood War
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
META Madness #9
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.