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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
September 02 2009 15:54 GMT
#41
by the way i would love to do a special guest commentary
assuming i have free time that is
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8178 Posts
September 02 2009 15:55 GMT
#42
i still dont get it. so is this the same CSL but with new direction or is the other CSL still going on but now no one is doing it?
Free Palestine
CholeraSC
Profile Joined March 2008
United States114 Posts
September 02 2009 16:31 GMT
#43
On September 03 2009 00:52 Chill wrote:
I hate this thread. It screams "Cool we're going to do stuff stay tuned." Please stop making threads like this.

For future reference, follow along at home:

Good:
1. Do stuff
2. Post about it

Bad:
1. Post about stuff you're going to do

Edit: To be clear, if you need help that's fantastic. But you don't need to drop these drama hints and "stay tuned for content". It's bullshit!



*OMG CHILL GRUDGE MATCH TONIGHT!!!!*
I HAVE NEW ZVZ CHOLERA BUILD KEKEKE


Hehe, so yes, this thread doesn't have too much current content, but I think it's needed since the last one was even lamer. Hopefully this will eventually get some details out about new changes in the tournament that deal with stuff important to potential players at TL.

Also, my humble 2 cents from doing casting both for CSL season 1 and a few games with top foreign players online or at WCG Open: CSL and TSL or another traditional competitive SC leagues appeal to almost entirely different audiences and players.

Both are great for the foreign SC fanbase, just to different aspects of it. I don't post much on either TL or SC2GG any more because I'm trying to devote more time to growing an audience that's mostly not involved in the current SC community. Well mainly I don't post so much because of taking courses and playing FO3, but shh.

I'd say most of my viewers for my videos are very casual enthusiasts who don't play at all or only play with 'friends'; and who just want to watch some fun games without any involvement in the forums or community. I'd say a majority of the college players on the CSL teams, with some big exceptions, belong in this category too (which explains their - and my - rather bad play).

But, thousands of these folks like watching games with bad plays too :O Based on views, as many people watched my VODs of CSL playoffs/finals and the Cotter Cup, both of which had games that were on average on the level of D+ or C- players, as they did casts I've done of top foreign players from replays, or as most of the Korean games. Watching odd and imperfect play doesn't appeal to a lot of people who post here, but there's still a whole lot more who do like watching and laughing about them.


The TSL, WCG qualifiers, ESL, cups in Cali, etc. are absolutely great for the game, its long-lasting community, and all of us who do like watching solid play among non-Koreans (which includes me). But, the CSL is a completely different tournament where most of the players are from the "casual", previously uninvolved crowd of viewers I mentioned above - who definitely can reach the same level as the players with just some practice and do like the idea of watching amateurs who do make lots of mistakes but still can win (or at least compete in) a tournament.

Some of these viewers have told me they found a dusty copy of BW and started playing on Bnet or Iccup for the first time in 5+ years, or are much more excited about and will buy SC2 when it comes out. And that can only be good for the game.




*burrows again*
*selected with ol and stopped*
*waiting for zealots, HYUK STYLE*
http://www.youtube.com/user/CholeraSC
m3rciless
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1476 Posts
September 02 2009 16:42 GMT
#44
so if cholera and hazel are doing this CSL, what happened to the pay CSL?

does that exist anymore? If not, that could have been made clearer by just saying that this is CSL - costs.
White-Ra fighting!
JiYan
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3668 Posts
September 02 2009 16:48 GMT
#45
this is CSL - costs.
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
September 02 2009 17:17 GMT
#46
On September 03 2009 00:52 Chill wrote:
I hate this thread. It screams "Cool we're going to do stuff stay tuned." Please stop making threads like this.

For future reference, follow along at home:

Good:
1. Do stuff
2. Post about it

Bad:
1. Post about stuff you're going to do

Edit: To be clear, if you need help that's fantastic. But you don't need to drop these drama hints and "stay tuned for content". It's bullshit!


Does Teamliquid have a monopoly on hype? Lol.
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36402 Posts
September 02 2009 17:23 GMT
#47
i volunteer to do newsposts for CSL+

in exchange, i demand 40% of ownership of CSL+ forever
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
Deleted User 31060
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
3788 Posts
September 02 2009 17:23 GMT
#48
I'm still confused, but right now I think it stands like this:

There are two CSLs. One with a website, and nothing else. The other has everything else.
Peaked at C- on ICCUP and proud of it! @Sunyveil
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
September 02 2009 17:24 GMT
#49
On September 03 2009 02:23 Hot_Bid wrote:
i volunteer to do newsposts for CSL+

in exchange, i demand 40% of ownership of CSL+ forever


How many shares do you want? Let's cut a deal!
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36402 Posts
September 02 2009 17:35 GMT
#50
On September 03 2009 02:24 Xeris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2009 02:23 Hot_Bid wrote:
i volunteer to do newsposts for CSL+

in exchange, i demand 40% of ownership of CSL+ forever

How many shares do you want? Let's cut a deal!

You seem to be a very shrewd and agreeable business person. We should be partners. I will put a CSL banner on my website and you put a HotBid banner on yours. Everyone prospers.
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
m3rciless
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1476 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-02 17:39:43
September 02 2009 17:39 GMT
#51
On September 03 2009 02:17 Xeris wrote:
Does Teamliquid have a monopoly on hype? Lol.


lol. Chill, chill.

Edit: Shit, maybe its chill, Chill.
White-Ra fighting!
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
September 02 2009 17:41 GMT
#52
On September 03 2009 02:35 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2009 02:24 Xeris wrote:
On September 03 2009 02:23 Hot_Bid wrote:
i volunteer to do newsposts for CSL+

in exchange, i demand 40% of ownership of CSL+ forever

How many shares do you want? Let's cut a deal!

You seem to be a very shrewd and agreeable business person. We should be partners. I will put a CSL banner on my website and you put a HotBid banner on yours. Everyone prospers.


*thinks to himself*
YES!!!!!!!!! Leeching off TL traffic, now I'm gonna get so rich from ad revenue, fuck I'm such a good businessman whoaaaaaa
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary26003 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-02 17:52:02
September 02 2009 17:49 GMT
#53
On September 03 2009 02:17 Xeris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2009 00:52 Chill wrote:
I hate this thread. It screams "Cool we're going to do stuff stay tuned." Please stop making threads like this.

For future reference, follow along at home:

Good:
1. Do stuff
2. Post about it

Bad:
1. Post about stuff you're going to do

Edit: To be clear, if you need help that's fantastic. But you don't need to drop these drama hints and "stay tuned for content". It's bullshit!


Does Teamliquid have a monopoly on hype? Lol.

Xeris, this isn't hype. It's "We're doing stuff, of which we have said nothing. Stay tuned." You don't need to say that.

Also I will offer 30% of Vandelay Industries for your Light hat.
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thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-02 17:52:01
September 02 2009 17:50 GMT
#54
Wait, if there isn't a $5 entry fee I will not be participating.

EDIT: @ Chill: Isn't that precisely how TL does stage-1 hype?
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary26003 Posts
September 02 2009 17:51 GMT
#55
On September 03 2009 02:50 thopol wrote:
Wait, if there isn't a $5 entry fee I will not be participating.

I'm with you! Fuck free stuff!!!!!!!
Moderator
shaldengeki
Profile Joined May 2009
United States104 Posts
September 02 2009 17:54 GMT
#56
If there isn't an entry fee, how can I be sure that I'll be fighting quality teams? Without some sort of entry barrier, everybody and their dog could sign up and I'd waste precious SC time fighting non-A-rank players!
nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
September 02 2009 17:59 GMT
#57
Oh man i just read that closed thread... what a mess. I hope everything turns out fine.
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
September 02 2009 18:05 GMT
#58
ESPORTS!
PhotographerLiquipedia. Drop me a pm if you've got questions/need help.
DanceCommander
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1808 Posts
September 02 2009 18:06 GMT
#59
On September 03 2009 02:50 thopol wrote:
Wait, if there isn't a $5 entry fee I will not be participating.

EDIT: @ Chill: Isn't that precisely how TL does stage-1 hype?

lol this makes no sense, unless you know for sure you're going to win the prize pool.
Nightmarjoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3360 Posts
September 02 2009 18:08 GMT
#60
Since it's likely my school won't have enough players to compete this time, can I merc for some other school?
aka Lyra; My favourites: July, Stork, Draco, MistrZZZ, TheStc, LastShadow - www.broodwarmaps.net - for all your mapping needs; check my stream: high masters mech terran: twitch.tv/lyrathegreat
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