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blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4449 Posts
August 02 2009 10:11 GMT
#161
the top 3 of GOM aren't the ONLY Koreans that will go, right? There will still be invites, I think
blabberrrrr
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3019 Posts
August 02 2009 10:11 GMT
#162
On August 02 2009 19:11 blabber wrote:
the top 3 of GOM aren't the ONLY Koreans that will go, right? There will still be invites, I think


Invites are going to last year's top 2, Savior and Nada.
Tadzio
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
3340 Posts
August 02 2009 10:12 GMT
#163
Congrats EffOrt! July gave a good performance.
sashkata
Profile Joined September 2008
Bulgaria3241 Posts
August 02 2009 10:12 GMT
#164
sad
Kage
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
India788 Posts
August 02 2009 10:13 GMT
#165
I have to say Effort played so well in this, why the fuck couldn't he do this against Calm?
johanes
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Czech Republic2246 Posts
August 02 2009 10:14 GMT
#166
On August 02 2009 19:13 Kage wrote:
I have to say Effort played so well in this, why the fuck couldn't he do this against Calm?

because Calm is better?
poilord
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Germany3252 Posts
August 02 2009 10:14 GMT
#167
On August 02 2009 19:13 Kage wrote:
I have to say Effort played so well in this, why the fuck couldn't he do this against Calm?


because he really likes to 12 hatch ~~
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-02 10:23:36
August 02 2009 10:19 GMT
#168
On August 02 2009 19:14 johanes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2009 19:13 Kage wrote:
I have to say Effort played so well in this, why the fuck couldn't he do this against Calm?

because Calm is better?

Statements like this make my blood boil.

I won't make any statements about their relative skill levels (just that they're both playing well), but I'll just say I'll be an EffOrt fanboy and a Calm hater till I die.
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Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
August 02 2009 10:32 GMT
#169
yep
effort just pwned
[~~The Impossible Leads To Invention~~] CJ Entusman #52 The problem with internet quotations is that they are hard to verify -Abraham Lincoln c.1863
Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
August 02 2009 10:35 GMT
#170
Um, Calm is hot right now, but he isn't "better" than Effort. Effort didn't play smart against Calm. Calm is... calling him an Aggressive Zerg is wrong, IMO, since Calm takes u all the way back to the era of Poor Zerg players like JinName. Basically, I view Calm as a Poor Zerg with modern strategy and mechanics. The key difference is that an Aggressive Zerg still needs to beat a Terran or Protoss opponent in econ in order to win, but a Poor Zerg says "fuck econ" and will play with such a hyper aggressive style that they are often behind a Terran or Protoss opponent in econ (and yet still can win).

Effort should have realized that Calm would use 9 pool builds. Because 9 pool is a staple of Poor Zerg players.

But that's also why JD is going to obliterate Calm; JD almost never loses to 9 pool. I don't mean "almost never" as in "JD almost never loses to Zerg," but as in "JD is exceptionally good at countering 9 pool Zerg even compared to other ZvZ builds." I simply cannot forsee any result other than a 3:0 victory for JD.
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
vx70GTOJudgexv
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3161 Posts
August 02 2009 11:20 GMT
#171
On August 02 2009 19:35 Mortality wrote:
I simply cannot forsee any result other than a 3:0 victory for JD.


3:1, it's the Jaedong way.

GJ EffOrt, although I wasn't really shocked. His play has been top class right now. Sure, he's falling off of his "nobody beats him" edge, but he's still destroying 90% of the field. Calm exploited a BO flaw in EffOrt's plan (12 hatch is EffOrt's hubris) - props to him, but it's not anything that anyone couldn't really do. Iris, as much as he is my favorite player, really lucked on two factors: 1) He plays exceptionally versus his teammates in individual leagues and 2) EffOrt had so much on his plate at that point in time.
(-_-) BW for ever. #1 Iris fan.
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
August 02 2009 12:20 GMT
#172
lol, not so much interest in this match.
Brood War loyalist
geod
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Vietnam450 Posts
August 02 2009 12:32 GMT
#173
Effort is just a new A zerg. He can win or lose to any other A zerg (aka Calm). July is not A zerg anymore and ZvsZ is his weak match up. End of dicussion.
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
August 02 2009 16:58 GMT
#174
On August 02 2009 19:14 johanes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2009 19:13 Kage wrote:
I have to say Effort played so well in this, why the fuck couldn't he do this against Calm?

because Calm is better?


...What? You can't be serious.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
mrgerry
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1508 Posts
August 02 2009 17:02 GMT
#175
Beautiful troll johanes, 5/5, very well executed.
skronch
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2717 Posts
August 02 2009 17:37 GMT
#176
offensive sunken and hidden hatch...even though he didn't win at least july brought some interesting things to a ZvZ
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
August 02 2009 17:47 GMT
#177
On August 02 2009 21:32 geod wrote:
Effort is just a new A zerg. He can win or lose to any other A zerg (aka Calm). July is not A zerg anymore and ZvsZ is his weak match up. End of dicussion.


A guy loses against pretty hard opponents and all of a sudden he's not S-Class anymore.

EVERYONE has a week where they just lose for the love of god.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4839 Posts
August 02 2009 18:19 GMT
#178
Calm is better than JulyZerg, so Effort losing to Calm but beating JulyZerg is not a bizarre outcome.

The only players I would say with complete confidence are S-Class these days, would be Bisu and Jaedong. Maybe Fantasy as well, to round out the races.

Calm/Effort/Flash are obvious candidates for S-Class (Flash certainly used to be), but not fully convincing at present.
My strategy is to fork people.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
August 02 2009 18:49 GMT
#179
Lo, I read that post as Calm is better than Julyzerg. Actually, that is what the post gramatically says. But looks no one else did.
Jaedong
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
August 02 2009 18:55 GMT
#180
On August 02 2009 19:35 Mortality wrote:
Um, Calm is hot right now, but he isn't "better" than Effort. Effort didn't play smart against Calm. Calm is... calling him an Aggressive Zerg is wrong, IMO, since Calm takes u all the way back to the era of Poor Zerg players like JinName. Basically, I view Calm as a Poor Zerg with modern strategy and mechanics. The key difference is that an Aggressive Zerg still needs to beat a Terran or Protoss opponent in econ in order to win, but a Poor Zerg says "fuck econ" and will play with such a hyper aggressive style that they are often behind a Terran or Protoss opponent in econ (and yet still can win).
I agree. Calm is more akin to yellow than he is Julyzerg, for example. Hes really very aggressive but he does it in a strategical and intelligent manner.
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