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MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
August 02 2009 19:03 GMT
#181
On August 03 2009 03:55 Dazed_Spy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2009 19:35 Mortality wrote:
Um, Calm is hot right now, but he isn't "better" than Effort. Effort didn't play smart against Calm. Calm is... calling him an Aggressive Zerg is wrong, IMO, since Calm takes u all the way back to the era of Poor Zerg players like JinName. Basically, I view Calm as a Poor Zerg with modern strategy and mechanics. The key difference is that an Aggressive Zerg still needs to beat a Terran or Protoss opponent in econ in order to win, but a Poor Zerg says "fuck econ" and will play with such a hyper aggressive style that they are often behind a Terran or Protoss opponent in econ (and yet still can win).
I agree. Calm is more akin to yellow than he is Julyzerg, for example. Hes really very aggressive but he does it in a strategical and intelligent manner.


July is terrible at zvz. I'm surprised that he won one game against the person who beat jaedong in a box.
Zerg can be so abusive sometimes | third member of the "loli is not a crime club" PM konadora to join!
SilverskY
Profile Joined September 2008
Korea (South)3086 Posts
August 02 2009 19:19 GMT
#182
A solid run by July, he gave a good performance.
Graphics
Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4839 Posts
August 02 2009 19:37 GMT
#183
On August 03 2009 04:03 MuffinDude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2009 03:55 Dazed_Spy wrote:
On August 02 2009 19:35 Mortality wrote:
Um, Calm is hot right now, but he isn't "better" than Effort. Effort didn't play smart against Calm. Calm is... calling him an Aggressive Zerg is wrong, IMO, since Calm takes u all the way back to the era of Poor Zerg players like JinName. Basically, I view Calm as a Poor Zerg with modern strategy and mechanics. The key difference is that an Aggressive Zerg still needs to beat a Terran or Protoss opponent in econ in order to win, but a Poor Zerg says "fuck econ" and will play with such a hyper aggressive style that they are often behind a Terran or Protoss opponent in econ (and yet still can win).
I agree. Calm is more akin to yellow than he is Julyzerg, for example. Hes really very aggressive but he does it in a strategical and intelligent manner.


July is terrible at zvz. I'm surprised that he won one game against the person who beat jaedong in a box.

Would you beat him in a box?
Would you beat him with a fox?
My strategy is to fork people.
dl2agon
Profile Joined June 2009
United States473 Posts
August 02 2009 20:02 GMT
#184
We talking about Calm? The same Calm that lost the ACE match vs Khan's Jangbi speedlot rush?

LOL
stafu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia1196 Posts
August 02 2009 20:17 GMT
#185
On August 03 2009 05:02 dl2agon wrote:
We talking about Calm? The same Calm that lost the ACE match vs Khan's Jangbi speedlot rush?

LOL

The same Calm who 3-0'd EffOrt, 'dl2agon'.

LOL
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-02 20:21:18
August 02 2009 20:19 GMT
#186
On August 03 2009 05:02 dl2agon wrote:
We talking about Calm? The same Calm that lost the ACE match vs Khan's Jangbi speedlot rush?

LOL
Were talking about the man who has had a 69.64% win rate since 2009...

LOL?
On August 03 2009 04:37 Severedevil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2009 04:03 MuffinDude wrote:
On August 03 2009 03:55 Dazed_Spy wrote:
On August 02 2009 19:35 Mortality wrote:
Um, Calm is hot right now, but he isn't "better" than Effort. Effort didn't play smart against Calm. Calm is... calling him an Aggressive Zerg is wrong, IMO, since Calm takes u all the way back to the era of Poor Zerg players like JinName. Basically, I view Calm as a Poor Zerg with modern strategy and mechanics. The key difference is that an Aggressive Zerg still needs to beat a Terran or Protoss opponent in econ in order to win, but a Poor Zerg says "fuck econ" and will play with such a hyper aggressive style that they are often behind a Terran or Protoss opponent in econ (and yet still can win).
I agree. Calm is more akin to yellow than he is Julyzerg, for example. Hes really very aggressive but he does it in a strategical and intelligent manner.


July is terrible at zvz. I'm surprised that he won one game against the person who beat jaedong in a box.

Would you beat him in a box?
Would you beat him with a fox?
No, but since the 2008 ever osl, 79% of pro zergs would... [his win rate is 21% in case your wondering...]
Never say Die! ||| Fight you? No, I want to kill you.
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8182 Posts
August 03 2009 00:04 GMT
#187
noooooo

I really wanted Tushin to go to Blizzcon
Free Palestine
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8182 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-03 00:11:18
August 03 2009 00:10 GMT
#188
On August 02 2009 19:11 darktreb wrote:
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On August 02 2009 19:11 blabber wrote:
the top 3 of GOM aren't the ONLY Koreans that will go, right? There will still be invites, I think


Invites are going to last year's top 2, Savior and Nada.


goddamnit this blizzcon tourney is going to be not nearly as good as previous ones


No protoss at all?

at least flash vs effort might be good.
Free Palestine
saikeraku
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada2933 Posts
August 03 2009 01:35 GMT
#189
Aw... so wanted July to take it =(
geod
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Vietnam450 Posts
August 03 2009 01:57 GMT
#190
On August 03 2009 02:47 Jayme wrote:
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On August 02 2009 21:32 geod wrote:
Effort is just a new A zerg. He can win or lose to any other A zerg (aka Calm). July is not A zerg anymore and ZvsZ is his weak match up. End of dicussion.


A guy loses against pretty hard opponents and all of a sudden he's not S-Class anymore.

EVERYONE has a week where they just lose for the love of god.


Effort wasn't and is not a S class zerg yet. He nevert enters the semi final of any star league.
Having a hot streak means shit in this case.
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-03 02:13:42
August 03 2009 02:08 GMT
#191
On August 03 2009 10:57 geod wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2009 02:47 Jayme wrote:
On August 02 2009 21:32 geod wrote:
Effort is just a new A zerg. He can win or lose to any other A zerg (aka Calm). July is not A zerg anymore and ZvsZ is his weak match up. End of dicussion.


A guy loses against pretty hard opponents and all of a sudden he's not S-Class anymore.

EVERYONE has a week where they just lose for the love of god.


Effort wasn't and is not a S class zerg yet. He nevert enters the semi final of any star league.
Having a hot streak means shit in this case.


So type-b is an S-Class zerg, and (Z)EffOrt isn't? I mean, it's not like EffOrt just beat one of the best Protoss of all time in a crucial ace-match. Or beat Flash and Jaedong in proleague action. And the streak? Only 27-3, the second best 30 game set of all time. Yeah, EffOrt's a chump.

Clearly.

On August 03 2009 04:37 Severedevil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2009 04:03 MuffinDude wrote:
On August 03 2009 03:55 Dazed_Spy wrote:
On August 02 2009 19:35 Mortality wrote:
Um, Calm is hot right now, but he isn't "better" than Effort. Effort didn't play smart against Calm. Calm is... calling him an Aggressive Zerg is wrong, IMO, since Calm takes u all the way back to the era of Poor Zerg players like JinName. Basically, I view Calm as a Poor Zerg with modern strategy and mechanics. The key difference is that an Aggressive Zerg still needs to beat a Terran or Protoss opponent in econ in order to win, but a Poor Zerg says "fuck econ" and will play with such a hyper aggressive style that they are often behind a Terran or Protoss opponent in econ (and yet still can win).
I agree. Calm is more akin to yellow than he is Julyzerg, for example. Hes really very aggressive but he does it in a strategical and intelligent manner.


July is terrible at zvz. I'm surprised that he won one game against the person who beat jaedong in a box.

Would you beat him in a box?
Would you beat him with a fox?


I always love Kim Jung Woo
I love his metagame, yes I do!
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StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13922 Posts
August 03 2009 04:10 GMT
#192
fuck no july TT
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
ImNotBisu
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada142 Posts
August 04 2009 04:48 GMT
#193
dammit fatzerg, not even a 3rd place medal.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21248 Posts
August 04 2009 04:55 GMT
#194
FFFFFFFFFU =(
TranslatorBaa!
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
August 04 2009 05:26 GMT
#195
Nothing surprising here. It would be a huge upset if July had won this one.

Now I am waiting for epic final; Please Flash, don't disappoint me.
Mortician
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Bulgaria2332 Posts
August 04 2009 06:15 GMT
#196
Iris > Flash 3:1, heard it here first
"If anything, the skill cap in sc2 is higher [than sc1] because there are a lot more things you can do at one given time. " darmousseh
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
August 04 2009 06:46 GMT
#197
On August 04 2009 15:15 Mortician wrote:
Iris > Flash 3:1, heard it here first
The above prediction is wrong, heard it here first.
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