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On August 03 2009 03:55 Dazed_Spy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2009 19:35 Mortality wrote: Um, Calm is hot right now, but he isn't "better" than Effort. Effort didn't play smart against Calm. Calm is... calling him an Aggressive Zerg is wrong, IMO, since Calm takes u all the way back to the era of Poor Zerg players like JinName. Basically, I view Calm as a Poor Zerg with modern strategy and mechanics. The key difference is that an Aggressive Zerg still needs to beat a Terran or Protoss opponent in econ in order to win, but a Poor Zerg says "fuck econ" and will play with such a hyper aggressive style that they are often behind a Terran or Protoss opponent in econ (and yet still can win).
I agree. Calm is more akin to yellow than he is Julyzerg, for example. Hes really very aggressive but he does it in a strategical and intelligent manner.
July is terrible at zvz. I'm surprised that he won one game against the person who beat jaedong in a box.
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Korea (South)3086 Posts
A solid run by July, he gave a good performance.
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On August 03 2009 04:03 MuffinDude wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2009 03:55 Dazed_Spy wrote:On August 02 2009 19:35 Mortality wrote: Um, Calm is hot right now, but he isn't "better" than Effort. Effort didn't play smart against Calm. Calm is... calling him an Aggressive Zerg is wrong, IMO, since Calm takes u all the way back to the era of Poor Zerg players like JinName. Basically, I view Calm as a Poor Zerg with modern strategy and mechanics. The key difference is that an Aggressive Zerg still needs to beat a Terran or Protoss opponent in econ in order to win, but a Poor Zerg says "fuck econ" and will play with such a hyper aggressive style that they are often behind a Terran or Protoss opponent in econ (and yet still can win).
I agree. Calm is more akin to yellow than he is Julyzerg, for example. Hes really very aggressive but he does it in a strategical and intelligent manner. July is terrible at zvz. I'm surprised that he won one game against the person who beat jaedong in a box. Would you beat him in a box? Would you beat him with a fox?
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dl2agon
United States473 Posts
We talking about Calm? The same Calm that lost the ACE match vs Khan's Jangbi speedlot rush?
LOL
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On August 03 2009 05:02 dl2agon wrote: We talking about Calm? The same Calm that lost the ACE match vs Khan's Jangbi speedlot rush?
LOL The same Calm who 3-0'd EffOrt, 'dl2agon'.
LOL
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On August 03 2009 05:02 dl2agon wrote: We talking about Calm? The same Calm that lost the ACE match vs Khan's Jangbi speedlot rush?
LOL Were talking about the man who has had a 69.64% win rate since 2009...
LOL?On August 03 2009 04:37 Severedevil wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2009 04:03 MuffinDude wrote:On August 03 2009 03:55 Dazed_Spy wrote:On August 02 2009 19:35 Mortality wrote: Um, Calm is hot right now, but he isn't "better" than Effort. Effort didn't play smart against Calm. Calm is... calling him an Aggressive Zerg is wrong, IMO, since Calm takes u all the way back to the era of Poor Zerg players like JinName. Basically, I view Calm as a Poor Zerg with modern strategy and mechanics. The key difference is that an Aggressive Zerg still needs to beat a Terran or Protoss opponent in econ in order to win, but a Poor Zerg says "fuck econ" and will play with such a hyper aggressive style that they are often behind a Terran or Protoss opponent in econ (and yet still can win).
I agree. Calm is more akin to yellow than he is Julyzerg, for example. Hes really very aggressive but he does it in a strategical and intelligent manner. July is terrible at zvz. I'm surprised that he won one game against the person who beat jaedong in a box. Would you beat him in a box? Would you beat him with a fox? No, but since the 2008 ever osl, 79% of pro zergs would... [his win rate is 21% in case your wondering...]
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noooooo 
I really wanted Tushin to go to Blizzcon
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On August 02 2009 19:11 darktreb wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2009 19:11 blabber wrote: the top 3 of GOM aren't the ONLY Koreans that will go, right? There will still be invites, I think Invites are going to last year's top 2, Savior and Nada.
goddamnit this blizzcon tourney is going to be not nearly as good as previous ones 
No protoss at all? 
at least flash vs effort might be good.
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Aw... so wanted July to take it =(
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On August 03 2009 02:47 Jayme wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2009 21:32 geod wrote: Effort is just a new A zerg. He can win or lose to any other A zerg (aka Calm). July is not A zerg anymore and ZvsZ is his weak match up. End of dicussion. A guy loses against pretty hard opponents and all of a sudden he's not S-Class anymore. EVERYONE has a week where they just lose for the love of god.
Effort wasn't and is not a S class zerg yet. He nevert enters the semi final of any star league. Having a hot streak means shit in this case.
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Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
On August 03 2009 10:57 geod wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2009 02:47 Jayme wrote:On August 02 2009 21:32 geod wrote: Effort is just a new A zerg. He can win or lose to any other A zerg (aka Calm). July is not A zerg anymore and ZvsZ is his weak match up. End of dicussion. A guy loses against pretty hard opponents and all of a sudden he's not S-Class anymore. EVERYONE has a week where they just lose for the love of god. Effort wasn't and is not a S class zerg yet. He nevert enters the semi final of any star league. Having a hot streak means shit in this case.
So type-b is an S-Class zerg, and EffOrt isn't? I mean, it's not like EffOrt just beat one of the best Protoss of all time in a crucial ace-match. Or beat Flash and Jaedong in proleague action. And the streak? Only 27-3, the second best 30 game set of all time. Yeah, EffOrt's a chump.
Clearly.
On August 03 2009 04:37 Severedevil wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2009 04:03 MuffinDude wrote:On August 03 2009 03:55 Dazed_Spy wrote:On August 02 2009 19:35 Mortality wrote: Um, Calm is hot right now, but he isn't "better" than Effort. Effort didn't play smart against Calm. Calm is... calling him an Aggressive Zerg is wrong, IMO, since Calm takes u all the way back to the era of Poor Zerg players like JinName. Basically, I view Calm as a Poor Zerg with modern strategy and mechanics. The key difference is that an Aggressive Zerg still needs to beat a Terran or Protoss opponent in econ in order to win, but a Poor Zerg says "fuck econ" and will play with such a hyper aggressive style that they are often behind a Terran or Protoss opponent in econ (and yet still can win).
I agree. Calm is more akin to yellow than he is Julyzerg, for example. Hes really very aggressive but he does it in a strategical and intelligent manner. July is terrible at zvz. I'm surprised that he won one game against the person who beat jaedong in a box. Would you beat him in a box? Would you beat him with a fox?
I always love Kim Jung Woo I love his metagame, yes I do!
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dammit fatzerg, not even a 3rd place medal.
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Baa?21242 Posts
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Nothing surprising here. It would be a huge upset if July had won this one.
Now I am waiting for epic final; Please Flash, don't disappoint me.
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Iris > Flash 3:1, heard it here first
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On August 04 2009 15:15 Mortician wrote: Iris > Flash 3:1, heard it here first The above prediction is wrong, heard it here first.
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