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3 Lions
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3705 Posts
July 27 2009 01:17 GMT
#2561
Team Jaedong vs Team Effort in the next round?

Too bad the rest of the CJ players are so much better than the rest of Oz.
Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
July 27 2009 03:01 GMT
#2562
Team? It's Jaedong vs. EffOrt and co.
dekuschrub
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2069 Posts
July 27 2009 03:13 GMT
#2563
yeah this is getting ridiculous

CJ effort vs lecaf jaedong = entire PL GF

i feel bad for khan.. they actually pulled it together to be beaten by a single player.

but thats the advantage of having an out of this world player on your team.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
July 27 2009 03:22 GMT
#2564
erm...no. The rest of CJ also pulled through like how the rest of OZ does. Seriously where the fuck do you idiots come from :/
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Musoeun
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States4324 Posts
July 27 2009 03:34 GMT
#2565
The thing that killed KHAN was the Outsider-Outsider ace matches imo.

Of course, if fbh hadn't royally screwed up, or if Juni were competent (and B-team Movie had shown up again) this wouldn't have been a problem, but when KHAN let it go to ace after a 3-1 lead...
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
July 27 2009 03:37 GMT
#2566
What's funny is that Khan had 4 chances to take the whole thing

And CJ had to win all 4 games

CJ still won
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alt.tday
Profile Joined April 2009
United States180 Posts
July 27 2009 04:05 GMT
#2567
i REALLY REALLY hope hwaseung oz takes the next round
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dekuschrub
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2069 Posts
July 27 2009 04:11 GMT
#2568
what are you talking about coming through

kwanro went 0-2 against miracle
iris went 1-1 losing the first time to ODIN
much went 0-2
movie went 1-1

even precious skyhigh (whom i really like actually) went 1-1

then you have effort who goes 4-0. HMMM youre right the rest of CJ really "came through." basically their team scraped together 2 wins without effort and effort did the rest.


fuck that. effort did literally everything
alt.tday
Profile Joined April 2009
United States180 Posts
July 27 2009 04:13 GMT
#2569
holy shit dude how'd effort getting so FREAKING GOOD?? whats his secret??
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dekuschrub
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2069 Posts
July 27 2009 04:17 GMT
#2570
yeah its pretty unreal how good hes gotten...
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
July 27 2009 04:29 GMT
#2571
On July 27 2009 13:13 alt.tday wrote:
holy shit dude how'd effort getting so FREAKING GOOD?? whats his secret??


savior mentor. It's weird how effort can take savior style and make it work so well in the present strategy pool.

I'd really like to see how he matches up with Bisu as the savior style is supposed to be countered by his play.
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21550 Posts
July 27 2009 04:38 GMT
#2572
On July 27 2009 13:13 alt.tday wrote:
holy shit dude how'd effort getting so FREAKING GOOD?? whats his secret??

Complete lack of fear.
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hacpee
Profile Joined November 2007
United States752 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-27 05:08:39
July 27 2009 05:04 GMT
#2573
On July 27 2009 06:30 luckybeni2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2009 02:27 tedster wrote:
On July 26 2009 23:31 AzureEye wrote:
Man...Stork had that game

2 reasons why he lost

1) At the near end, he shouldn't have wasted his army to try to go through those 7 sunkens. Its not worth it, he should have committed more to drops or maybe even recall

2) The map let you get 3/4 gas easily which means Z can just protect its nat (which Effort made 7 sunks) and get free gas. Free gas for Zerg = Ultralings and hive tech

I swear, Stork had this game..damn


While Stork was in a decent position for a while, point one really does not stand, unfortunately.

1) Drops or recall were not possible. By the time Stork had any sort of ground army strong enough to hold the middle, he no longer had a large fleet of Sairs and Effort was already patrolling the hell out of his side of the map with Muta and Scourge. A drop would have been far too risky with Effort's focus on air at the time and would also have delayed the Obs, which were needed by that point to survive the Lurker switch.

Recall would have been completely impossible for both the aforementioned air issue and because Stork was never ahead economically in a way that would have allowed him to throw time, resources, and Starport production into Arbiters. He could not have maintained a Sair force or kept his ground army at the same strength had he done this sort of a tech, and at the point of the game it might have been possible he would have been giving Effort time to tech into Ultra/Defiler anyway, so it would have had little effect and could have actually been quite detrimental.


He could've just camped outside Efforts base and teched to storms and reavers. That game was over and Stork deserved to win that one because he played much better. Effort had nowhere to expand and was getting behind in bases and his army was much smaller. On open ground he would never been ableto defeat Storks army.


Actually, effort was quite ahead. Even if stork didn't suicide his army, all effort had to do was do a 3 pronged defiler/ling drop on stork and stork would have died. Drop on the main, drop on the expo, and drop on the nat. Stork's biggest mistake imo was expanding on the wrong side of the mineral line. If he had that 3rd gas, he could have spent it on sairs AND templar instead of just sairs.
hacpee
Profile Joined November 2007
United States752 Posts
July 27 2009 05:06 GMT
#2574
On July 27 2009 13:13 alt.tday wrote:
holy shit dude how'd effort getting so FREAKING GOOD?? whats his secret??


His "secret" is that he's playing Khan. Great isn't a ZvZer, stork's PvZ, in terms of S-classness is horrible, and Jangbi is is just a few notches above stork. FBH was the only one who was good vs zerg and he is in a huge slump right now.
dekuschrub
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2069 Posts
July 27 2009 05:11 GMT
#2575
great isnt a ZvZer??

ummm hes pretty good.

effort is JD level now though so he embarrasses people at that shit
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
July 27 2009 05:12 GMT
#2576
On July 27 2009 13:11 dekuschrub wrote:
what are you talking about coming through

kwanro went 0-2 against miracle
iris went 1-1 losing the first time to ODIN
much went 0-2
movie went 1-1

even precious skyhigh (whom i really like actually) went 1-1

then you have effort who goes 4-0. HMMM youre right the rest of CJ really "came through." basically their team scraped together 2 wins without effort and effort did the rest.


fuck that. effort did literally everything


and how did effort get to go 4-0? Remember he played 2 Ace matches so he went 2-0. Iris and Movie both won clutch games and Iris's lost to Odin was very close. Come on get the fuck out with that bullshit. Lemme guess Effort single-handedly won last week too right? thought so.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-27 05:15:47
July 27 2009 05:12 GMT
#2577
Wait ignore.
On July 27 2009 14:11 dekuschrub wrote:
great isnt a ZvZer??

ummm hes pretty good.

effort is JD level now though so he embarrasses people at that shit

He's pretty good, but he's not good enough to beat Effort, which is both a credit to Effort and a blow to Great. It's pretty obvious why that's a credit to Effort, but it's also a blow against Great because 6 zerglings vs 9 drones without the aid of stacking should be autowin. Even with Effort level micro, and great blew it. After that, Effort played a tight game in both their matches and won pretty handily.
Jaedong
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
July 27 2009 05:14 GMT
#2578
Effort was 2-0. Without the other wins there is no Ace match. Where were you last week? This Effort - JD bandwagon needs to stop. You guys are so dumb :/
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
dekuschrub
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2069 Posts
July 27 2009 05:25 GMT
#2579
hahaha ace is completely missing the point

the only "clutch" non effort CJ wins were iris>fbh and movie>Juni. The other wins that CJ had that contributed to them advancing over khan were entirely win by effort, which he had 3 of. How can you argue that he didnt carry the team?
dekuschrub
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2069 Posts
July 27 2009 05:28 GMT
#2580
On July 27 2009 14:12 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Wait ignore.
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2009 14:11 dekuschrub wrote:
great isnt a ZvZer??

ummm hes pretty good.

effort is JD level now though so he embarrasses people at that shit

He's pretty good, but he's not good enough to beat Effort, which is both a credit to Effort and a blow to Great. It's pretty obvious why that's a credit to Effort, but it's also a blow against Great because 6 zerglings vs 9 drones without the aid of stacking should be autowin. Even with Effort level micro, and great blew it. After that, Effort played a tight game in both their matches and won pretty handily.



umm yeah i agree thats kinda what I was saying. Great totally blew it when he had that BO win on heartbreak. Great still has pretty good ZvZ, but Effort is pretty much untouchable outside of JD in the matchup
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