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jhNz
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany2762 Posts
July 23 2009 07:43 GMT
#41
On July 23 2009 16:01 Itachii wrote:
Obvious choices in first 3, i just hope Zero won't fail and actually show some good ZvZ.


there was a time when he was considered as the next zvz jedi... but this time is over i guess. i still think he will take out kwanro though.
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MannerMan
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
371 Posts
July 23 2009 08:07 GMT
#42
(Z)Jaedong < > (T)Canata
(Z)EffOrt < > (Z)Calm
(P)Bisu < > (T)Iris
(Z)ZerO < > (Z)Kwanro

For game 1s at least!


Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-23 08:15:11
July 23 2009 08:14 GMT
#43
he still is the next zvz jedi, people just like to jump on bandwagons. Someone with a red or a blue name said zero's zvz was highly questionable, so everyone said "yes sah yes it is sah highly questionable sah", ignoring that Zero has always been streaky. That zero, after raping zvz in lost saga, proceeded to crash and burn. Then came back and raped again. Then he crashed again [hint were right here]. My point you ask? Well, that Zero is doing the same thing Zero has always been doing, beating whoever whenever he feels like, and losing to them as well. If Zero's zvz is highly questionable, it ALWAYS was, because its flaw is that of Zero himself, always. Inconsistency.

As I've said before, Zero will rape the shit out of Kwanro tonight or Kwanro will rape the shit out of Zero. It doesn't depends on the quality of Zero's zvz, but weather Zero wants to play like he did back in 2007, or like hes suppose to ever since his 08 break out.
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Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2140 Posts
July 23 2009 08:21 GMT
#44
On July 23 2009 14:16 Conquest101 wrote:
Iris can definitely showcase good TvZ games imo.


While that is true, there is already plenty of TvZ around:
Flash vs July
Iris vs Effort
Jaedong vs Canata
possibly Effort vs Flash
possibly Leta vs YarnC
Jaedong/Effort vs Fantasy/Canata

Keeping one Toss around surely wouldn't hurt viewer pleasure this season.
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
July 23 2009 08:27 GMT
#45
On July 23 2009 17:21 Simplistik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2009 14:16 Conquest101 wrote:
Iris can definitely showcase good TvZ games imo.


While that is true, there is already plenty of TvZ around:
Flash vs July
Iris vs Effort
Jaedong vs Canata
possibly Effort vs Flash
possibly Leta vs YarnC
Jaedong/Effort vs Fantasy/Canata

Keeping one Toss around surely wouldn't hurt viewer pleasure this season.


To be fair, though, TvZ is totally the best match up. :3

That is, non mech tvz.
Remember Violet.
miseiler
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States1389 Posts
July 23 2009 08:30 GMT
#46
On July 23 2009 13:51 bearbuddy wrote:
Hopefully the good Zero shows up.


You and me both.

I think he prepares well, and he's going to be facing zergs in both leagues, so there's hope.
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Conquest101
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1395 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-23 08:42:51
July 23 2009 08:42 GMT
#47
On July 23 2009 17:14 Dazed_Spy wrote:
he still is the next zvz jedi, people just like to jump on bandwagons. Someone with a red or a blue name said zero's zvz was highly questionable, so everyone said "yes sah yes it is sah highly questionable sah", ignoring that Zero has always been streaky. That zero, after raping zvz in lost saga, proceeded to crash and burn. Then came back and raped again. Then he crashed again [hint were right here]. My point you ask? Well, that Zero is doing the same thing Zero has always been doing, beating whoever whenever he feels like, and losing to them as well. If Zero's zvz is highly questionable, it ALWAYS was, because its flaw is that of Zero himself, always. Inconsistency.

As I've said before, Zero will rape the shit out of Kwanro tonight or Kwanro will rape the shit out of Zero. It doesn't depends on the quality of Zero's zvz, but weather Zero wants to play like he did back in 2007, or like hes suppose to ever since his 08 break out.


I'm not sure what point you're trying to make with this post. Isn't that inconsistency you're describing the basic meaning of "questionable"? I don't see any bandwagon, personally. Just because he plays well (not even that great IMO) in ZvZ sometimes doesn't make him the next ZvZ heir. In a BO5 vs Effort/Yarnc/Jaedong, I would expect Zero to lose pretty badly.

Honestly, I don't even understand how Zero's ZvZ got so hyped up in the first place. He beat Yarnc, which was good, but Yarnc wasn't playing the kind of ZvZ he is now. He beat Savior, which quite honestly was not an impressive feat. Savior has pretty much sucked balls at ZvZ forever now. Than he proceeded to lose to everyone for awhile before going on a "streak". Said streak mostly comprised of Modesty and Orion. And than continued to lose pretty much every ZvZ after that.

Can he beat Kwanro? Maybe, since Kwanro's ZvZ play isn't really stellar either.
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
July 23 2009 08:51 GMT
#48
On July 23 2009 17:42 Conquest101 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2009 17:14 Dazed_Spy wrote:
he still is the next zvz jedi, people just like to jump on bandwagons. Someone with a red or a blue name said zero's zvz was highly questionable, so everyone said "yes sah yes it is sah highly questionable sah", ignoring that Zero has always been streaky. That zero, after raping zvz in lost saga, proceeded to crash and burn. Then came back and raped again. Then he crashed again [hint were right here]. My point you ask? Well, that Zero is doing the same thing Zero has always been doing, beating whoever whenever he feels like, and losing to them as well. If Zero's zvz is highly questionable, it ALWAYS was, because its flaw is that of Zero himself, always. Inconsistency.

As I've said before, Zero will rape the shit out of Kwanro tonight or Kwanro will rape the shit out of Zero. It doesn't depends on the quality of Zero's zvz, but weather Zero wants to play like he did back in 2007, or like hes suppose to ever since his 08 break out.


I'm not sure what point you're trying to make with this post. Isn't that inconsistency you're describing the basic meaning of "questionable"? I don't see any bandwagon, personally. Just because he plays well (not even that great IMO) in ZvZ sometimes doesn't make him the next ZvZ heir. In a BO5 vs Effort/Yarnc/Jaedong, I would expect Zero to lose pretty badly.

Honestly, I don't even understand how Zero's ZvZ got so hyped up in the first place. He beat Yarnc, which was good, but Yarnc wasn't playing the kind of ZvZ he is now. He beat Savior, which quite honestly was not an impressive feat. Savior has pretty much sucked balls at ZvZ forever now. Than he proceeded to lose to everyone for awhile before going on a "streak". Said streak mostly comprised of Modesty and Orion. And than continued to lose pretty much every ZvZ after that.

Can he beat Kwanro? Maybe, since Kwanro's ZvZ play isn't really stellar either.


You people should watch the games. The reason Zero's ZvZ is hyped up is because his muta micro is completely out of this world, his mutas are crisp, smooth and elegant and barely take any hits at all and lag like many other progamers, his muta micro is out of this world in all 3 mus, if you want a clear showcase of this muta micro watch his game vs Kwanro in Medusa on GOM. Its sick sick stuff, he is getting pwned by lings and his zvz sense is not as good as many others, but only Jaedong matches his mutas in ZvZ (Fakeyellow does in ZvT, but thats another story). Im expecting Zero to take this with ease if it ends up with Muta vs Muta battles, but ZvZ is quite random in non JD level so we wil lsee.
"And then Earthlings discovered tools. Suddenly agreeing with friends could be a form of suicide or worse. But agreements went on, not for the sake of common sense, or decency, or self preservation, but for friendliness."
BisuBoi
Profile Joined February 2009
United States350 Posts
July 23 2009 09:14 GMT
#49
I want to see JD utterly destroy this Canatamatoes.

And Zero should rape Chipmunkzerg quite handily, unless he goes some kind of mass ling cheese.
Dice
Profile Joined April 2009
Korea (South)926 Posts
July 23 2009 09:26 GMT
#50
On July 23 2009 18:14 BisuBoi wrote:
I want to see JD utterly destroy this Canatamatoes.

And Zero should rape Chipmunkzerg quite handily, unless he goes some kind of mass ling cheese.

L O fucking L
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
July 23 2009 09:27 GMT
#51
This is gonna be tough for JD, Canata with the FBI behind him surely has sg for this map
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jhNz
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany2762 Posts
July 23 2009 09:30 GMT
#52
canata played really well in the last couple of weeks, no doubt about that. but somehow i don't see him winning vs jaedong. to be honest, not even close.

but i'm definitly rooting for him, seems like a really cool guy. he's been around for so long, he deserves to kick some major ass now!
http://twitter.com/jhNz
radadaundandan
Profile Joined May 2007
Bulgaria3148 Posts
July 23 2009 09:32 GMT
#53
Lets see if canata's mech play is enough to stomp JD... Go go Lee Jae Dong!
Flash returns...
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
July 23 2009 09:35 GMT
#54
JD no killer face . Oh well, if he loses tonight, he enters pissed off mode which is much worse than killer face for sure, its lose-lose situation for canata.
"And then Earthlings discovered tools. Suddenly agreeing with friends could be a form of suicide or worse. But agreements went on, not for the sake of common sense, or decency, or self preservation, but for friendliness."
GinNtoniC
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Sweden2945 Posts
July 23 2009 09:35 GMT
#55
Should I LR? The stream's good quality and I don't mind.
Huge fan of JulyZerg, HonestTea and that guy Kim Taek Yong.
Inzek
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Chile802 Posts
July 23 2009 09:36 GMT
#56
i jus wake up 530a... f this is not bo5 i'll kill myself
Stork FAN!!!
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
July 23 2009 09:36 GMT
#57
ready for this, microwave almost exploded T_T
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Deleted User 37864
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
780 Posts
July 23 2009 09:36 GMT
#58
(Z)(Z)Jaedong < > (T)Canata
(Z)EffOrt < > (Z)(Z)Calm
(P)Bisu < > (T)(T)Iris
(Z)(Z)ZerO < > (Z)(Z)Kwanro
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29904 Posts
July 23 2009 09:37 GMT
#59
Are the games splitted?
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Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
July 23 2009 09:37 GMT
#60
Everyone is welcome to LR.

Jaedong suddenly has not red hair. Black hair Jaedong looks rather different :O
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