EPT[MSL] Avalon MSL Quarter-Finals Day 1 - Page 24
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Dazed.
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jaedong is lucky that its split days! | ||
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deathgod6
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MountainDewJunkie
United States10344 Posts
On July 23 2009 19:07 Black Gun wrote: i find it really funny that when boxer bunker rushes yellow 3 times in a row ppl are excited and call him the one of the greatest, most skilled and most entertaining players of all times. if some1 else uses anything resembling any kind of rush or cheese he is called a gay skillless noob that was afraid to play a straight up game and robbed them off a potentially entertaining game.  its fucking part of the game, so stop bitching about it. Damn, I was going to bring up that example, but was just too slow  You are correct sir.Why are Boxer's bunker rushes "brilliant", while Canata's are "noobcheesesauce"? One word: Faaaanbooooyyyyismmm... Whenever the popular players lose, idiots go around blaming the map, the opposing build, and Jesus himself, and occasionally Moses. All to explain away the brief ineptitude of their heroes. First off, these ARE just the game 1s, so don't shit your pants just yet. Second, and most important... 8-rax into mech, with or without the hopelessly common bunker rush, is not cheese. It's no more cheese than a 9-pool + speed, 2-gate zealot, or 4-gate. True cheese is like 4 marines + 9 scvs, 5 pool, proxy dark templar (with the gateway hidden in the opponents main). Even then, cheese isn't a bad thing. If you want long macro games, stick with 3v3 BGH nr MM. But these idiots don't really want macro games; they just want the Jaedongs, the Boxers, and the Bisus of the SC world to always win. Is Canata boring now, jackasses? :D | ||
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
On July 24 2009 02:43 broz0rs wrote: I can't believe that Canata is the best Terran player right now. His recent record justifies his claim. You can't believe it because it isn't true... I don't even like Jaedong but Canata always plays so... so standard and bleh and I just hate watching the guy play. At least Jaedong has a relatively entertaining style. Also GO IRIS THE ANTI-BISU | ||
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TwoStep
United States294 Posts
Because Boxer and Canata are different players. And Boxer is known for cheesing. Same reason no one cared when Bisu cheesed Really. Cause he would've rolled him no matter what build he chose. Same reason that people cared when Flash cheesed Bisu in their first series because he was a clear underdog. | ||
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Ideas
United States8167 Posts
I think canata is getting a lot of hate because although well-executed it wasn't really too neat and has been seen many times before. Maybe its also just depressing since JD played so poorly vs it. I don't think his lings blocking the creep colony mattered much, the vulture was on it's way right when the creep colony got made, even with an extra 5 seconds it wouldn't of had finished in time. | ||
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Nylan
United States795 Posts
On July 24 2009 09:56 TwoStep wrote: Why are Boxer's bunker rushes "brilliant", while Canata's are "noobcheesesauce"? Because Boxer and Canata are different players. And Boxer is known for cheesing. Same reason no one cared when Bisu cheesed Really. Cause he would've rolled him no matter what build he chose. Same reason that people cared when Flash cheesed Bisu in their first series because he was a clear underdog. lolwut | ||
Ver
United States2186 Posts
It's not Canata's fault Jaedong sucked so badly it was over before the entire build even came into focus. That's one variation (extremely good one too) of the best current TvZ build that is rarely used; why fault him for being smarter than Jaedong? And Canata is looking to be at least in the top 3 T's right now. Whether he's better than Flash or Fantasy remains to be seen. | ||
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TwoStep
United States294 Posts
I'm explaining why some people react differently to cheese even though it's essentially the same strategy. the first question was from a different poster. I don't see how that's confusing. | ||
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Tensai176
Canada2061 Posts
In Canata vs. Jaedong game, If the bunker rush failed, although being at a disadvantage it is definitely not decisive and it was certainly not an all-in attack (He made a CC to expand for gods sake). The only way I see a bunker rush being cheese if the terran goes BBS or the terran sends out like 7-12 scvs. Canata used a unique strategy against Jaedong but that's a farcry from being a cheese build. | ||
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On July 24 2009 00:27 Shikyo wrote: The ~55% TvZ winrate over those years definitely has nothing to do with that. xellos nada boxer oov vs.... yellow and a bunch of trash for like 5 years on horribly imbalanced maps and it only comes out 55%> clearly zerg is stronger than terran. | ||
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JIJIyO
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