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On June 24 2009 20:09 darktreb wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2009 20:06 Orbifold wrote:
Violet is the best Protoss player currently. As much as I like Violet and dislike Bisu, this just isn't true. Take a look at Violet's ELO. I know ELO isn't everything but when you go on a massive winning streak like that and your ELO is still THAT low, it says something about the overall quality of your opponents (though of course he's beaten some big names). Also, Violet's ELO versus T is BELOW 2000. This isn't really his fault since he's been playing PvP and PvZ entirely, but don't we have to at least see his PvT before we can start putting him in the upper echelon?
I know, I was just being provocative. Violet has been playing much much better than Bisu recently though.
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No one doubt's bisu's skills, but his overconfidence has been killing his games lately.
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Valhalla18444 Posts
On June 24 2009 20:04 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2009 18:31 Plexa wrote:go.go has some of the sickest TvP timing pushes though 
that's an ancient build called a Deep Six it can hardly be credited to gogo 
it kills cheese, that's what its for
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On June 24 2009 20:09 darktreb wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2009 20:06 Orbifold wrote:
Violet is the best Protoss player currently. As much as I like Violet and dislike Bisu, this just isn't true. Take a look at Violet's ELO. I know ELO isn't everything but when you go on a massive winning streak like that and your ELO is still THAT low, it says something about the overall quality of your opponents (though of course he's beaten some big names). Also, Violet's ELO versus T is BELOW 2000. This isn't really his fault since he's been playing PvP and PvZ entirely, but don't we have to at least see his PvT before we can start putting him in the upper echelon?
Umm, Violet had the 2nd lowest ELO before he exploded suddenly and went on his streak. Bisu IS still the best P of all time and best toss right now, everyone goes on streaks. Wait till Violet performs in indivduals before calling him the best of the best. PL just isnt enough.
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people calling bisu build all in which it was but he needed those 3 goons and 1 zealot and the all in wouldve work or atleast do more damage
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On June 24 2009 20:12 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Whew
Still 2 games to go though. ;(
1-0 is nice buffer though~
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At least Bisu hasnt have to play all his games in the group in one day. I have zero doubt if it was the case he would be already out of the tournament just like last MSL. Get yourself together man and win it all this season <3
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What made that smart, is gogo knew the dt would mean late ob. So he could be confident his build wouldnt be scouted until too late.
If an mnm timing push gets scouted early T is fucked. Smart play.
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On June 24 2009 20:10 Orbifold wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2009 20:09 darktreb wrote:On June 24 2009 20:06 Orbifold wrote:
Violet is the best Protoss player currently. As much as I like Violet and dislike Bisu, this just isn't true. Take a look at Violet's ELO. I know ELO isn't everything but when you go on a massive winning streak like that and your ELO is still THAT low, it says something about the overall quality of your opponents (though of course he's beaten some big names). Also, Violet's ELO versus T is BELOW 2000. This isn't really his fault since he's been playing PvP and PvZ entirely, but don't we have to at least see his PvT before we can start putting him in the upper echelon? I know, I was just being provocative. Violet has been playing much much better than Bisu recently though.
Yeah, this I do agree! I almost regret bringing ELO into the discussion because anyone who has watched Violet play (and I've seen almost all of his games lately) can tell you that he has been playing extremely solid Starcraft. He's been doing everything a good Protoss player should be good at in PvZ and PvP - I wish we could see some PvT which in some ways is the "most different" of the three PvX matchups.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
Canata has a history of knocking my favorite players out of SLs ....
he better not do it this time!!
KWANRO HWAITING
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Valhalla18444 Posts
it's not called "six deep", it's called "Deep Six" which is a euphemism for killing somebody -_-
people should do more research
...well i guess you cant really research that, but yeah it's called Deep Six
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So . . . was that CC bm or is there a reason for doing that?
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Kwano must win to give Savior a chance!!!
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Valhalla18444 Posts
let's get this kwan rolling
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On June 24 2009 20:11 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2009 20:04 Plexa wrote:On June 24 2009 18:31 Plexa wrote:go.go has some of the sickest TvP timing pushes though that's an ancient build called a Deep Six it can hardly be credited to gogo it kills cheese, that's what its for I'm familiar with the build but thats go.go's TvP - timing pushes after timing pushes
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On June 24 2009 20:15 SultanVinegar wrote:
So . . . was that CC bm or is there a reason for doing that?
Completely BM. :p
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On June 24 2009 20:15 SultanVinegar wrote:
So . . . was that CC bm or is there a reason for doing that?
He wanted to expand to Bisu's natural after killing the nexus in order to consolidate his economic advantage.
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On June 24 2009 20:15 SultanVinegar wrote:
So . . . was that CC bm or is there a reason for doing that?
When Terran's push is succeeding, it's often a good idea to take a 3rd.
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