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NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7231 Posts
June 19 2009 19:49 GMT
#521
Jaedong is in the group of death in both tournaments
日本語が分かりますか
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3017 Posts
June 19 2009 19:59 GMT
#522
On June 19 2009 23:41 bludragen88 wrote:
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On June 19 2009 23:18 Atrioc wrote:
Wow motherfucking group A is literally the ballsiest possible thing. Absolutely none of those player backed down and picked an easy opponent. JD/Effort/Flash comprise 3 of the top 4 players in the world and then Flash goes and picks one of the best ZvT in the world who will literally be only good for sniping him out of the group stages. That is balls of steel.


I don't see why more people aren't focusing on the fact that Yarnc has a teammate in the other 3 groups, so Flash may have picked him as a favor to the whole team system, rather than for any matchup reasons. It's been shown plenty of times that the progamers go out of their way to avoid such things.


This is a very good point!
ccou
Profile Joined December 2008
United States681 Posts
June 19 2009 20:00 GMT
#523
On June 19 2009 23:41 bludragen88 wrote:
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On June 19 2009 23:18 Atrioc wrote:
Wow motherfucking group A is literally the ballsiest possible thing. Absolutely none of those player backed down and picked an easy opponent. JD/Effort/Flash comprise 3 of the top 4 players in the world and then Flash goes and picks one of the best ZvT in the world who will literally be only good for sniping him out of the group stages. That is balls of steel.


I don't see why more people aren't focusing on the fact that Yarnc has a teammate in the other 3 groups, so Flash may have picked him as a favor to the whole team system, rather than for any matchup reasons. It's been shown plenty of times that the progamers go out of their way to avoid such things.


This is definitely true. I'm sure Flash picked Yarnc for this exact reason. How else did all 7 CJ players end up in different groups for MSL? The progamers are manner enough to have an unspoken rule about spreading out teammates.
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Railz
Profile Joined July 2008
United States1449 Posts
June 19 2009 20:02 GMT
#524
Questions about brackets. Can A-B group winners meet in Finals or is it only A/B vs C/D for a finals?
Did the whole world just get a lot smaller and go whooosh?_-` Number 0ne By.Fantasy Fanatic!
Heaven_n
Profile Joined April 2009
Mexico170 Posts
June 19 2009 20:11 GMT
#525
Group A:
(Z)Jaedong chooses (Z)EffOrt

Group B:
(T)fantasy chooses (P)BackHo

Group C:
(P)Bisu chooses (T)go.go


Group D:
(Z)by.hero chooses (T)Leta

Ok i just have to lol that... jaedong chossing effort one of the strongest players and the zerg that beated him (and effort is on fire) fantasy choosing backho hes not that bad by.hero choosing LETA strong terran player hites' ace and bisu choosing go.go............. i think bisu just want to advance de easy way lol anyway sick grouping jaedon is on 2 death groups in the msl and osl
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Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
June 19 2009 20:23 GMT
#526
On June 19 2009 18:34 skronch wrote:
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On June 19 2009 18:32 Kaolla wrote:
rooting for boxer and savior ~
epic 2038th post?


lolololol
[~~The Impossible Leads To Invention~~] CJ Entusman #52 The problem with internet quotations is that they are hard to verify -Abraham Lincoln c.1863
Nylan
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States795 Posts
June 19 2009 20:34 GMT
#527
Canata...what a baller.
BeSt/Pure/Canata/Calm - I believe in Doh Jae Wook
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
June 19 2009 20:49 GMT
#528
Wow, Flash has to go up against the three best ZvTers in the world right now. It sucks only one of Flash/Jaedong/EffOrt are going to make it to the quarterfinals
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o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
June 19 2009 21:01 GMT
#529
Jaedong picked Effort for revenge from PL imo.

mess of a group there.
NicolBolas
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1388 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-19 21:32:29
June 19 2009 21:31 GMT
#530
Jaedong's choice makes perfect sense. Effort, for all of his win streak, is a Zerg. And Jaedong has the best possible chance against Zerg. Any Zerg. Yes, Jaedong lost a game to Effort, but he lost a game to hyvaa. Should Jaedong cower in fear of hyvaa too?

Plus, Jaedong would have expected Effort to pick a Zerg, since that would give Effort the best chance of making it out of his group.

Effort decided to counter that by picking Flash. Now, this is smart from the perspective that it makes it harder for Jaedong, who's weakest matchup is vs. Terran. But this is stupid from the perspective that Effort's weakest matchup is also vs. Terran (note: the fact that these are each other's weakest matchups should not be construed to mean that they are in any way weak in these matchups).
So you know, cats are interesting. They are kind of like girls. If they come up and talk to you, it's great. But if you try to talk to them, it doesn't always go so well. - Shigeru Miyamoto
Ver
Profile Joined October 2008
United States2186 Posts
June 19 2009 21:57 GMT
#531
Efforts strongest matchup is ZvT; his weakest is ZvP. TLPD is misleading.

Also I see Effort/Flash advancing. Yarnc will definitely lose vs both Zergs and I doubt he will beat Flash because of a style disadvantage. Flash/JD/Effort might end up all 2-1 (Flash>JD, Effort>Flash, JD>Effort seems quite likely) and we'd have some great tiebreakers.
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TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
June 19 2009 22:00 GMT
#532
No matter what, one of Flash, JD and Effort aren't making it through, which saddens me. Hell even two of them might not make it through of Yarnc upsets. =(
Remember Violet.
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
June 19 2009 23:06 GMT
#533
Oh wow! Jaedong Flash Effort! Yet another group of death. It is funny how it is always Jaedong or Flash getting those ridiculously hard groups. I remeber the group Flash/Bisu/Much/July which was also really stacked.

Then obviously the last MSL...

I will be definitely looking forward to watching it!
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
June 19 2009 23:21 GMT
#534
now If only Flash decides to go Bio in his games, we will have an awesome set of matches.
I'm predicting that he'll make it through
Clasic
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Bosnia-Herzegovina1437 Posts
June 20 2009 00:22 GMT
#535
@what time will this start today, sorry I'm noob at TL streams.
No no no no its not mine!
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7833 Posts
June 20 2009 00:42 GMT
#536
On June 20 2009 09:22 Clasic wrote:
@what time will this start today, sorry I'm noob at TL streams.


The 24th is the first round of matches.
nebffa
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Australia776 Posts
June 20 2009 00:44 GMT
#537
No-one said Movie would beat Jaedong in the MSL group... guess what happened...

Yarnc beating Jaedong/Effort/Flash is a pretty similar situation. Don't kid yourself that he has 0% chance
Clasic
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Bosnia-Herzegovina1437 Posts
June 20 2009 00:46 GMT
#538
On June 20 2009 09:42 Vasoline73 wrote:
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On June 20 2009 09:22 Clasic wrote:
@what time will this start today, sorry I'm noob at TL streams.


The 24th is the first round of matches.


Oh that sucks but w/e as long as I get to watch JD play :D
No no no no its not mine!
spydernoob
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada1066 Posts
June 20 2009 00:57 GMT
#539
wow just watched the vod. anyone notice storks massive pipes
wraiths go pew pew
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-20 01:13:14
June 20 2009 01:11 GMT
#540
Here's why (Z)EffOrt will win this OSL:

On June 01 2009 06:36 konadora wrote:

- What did the coaching staff advice you on?
▲ They told me not to be burdened, and to play hard as though my opponent was (Z)Jaedong. I think that helped. I think my games turn out better when I face top-class players. I think that's why my coaches gave me such an advice.


***

This guy (actually anyone from the group) is going to have to play at a ridiculously high level just to get out of the group stage. Nobody else will be as prepared as the two qualifiers from that group. And basically, that quote is ridiculously frightening.

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