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On June 06 2009 02:07 konadora wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2009 02:03 IdrA wrote:On June 06 2009 02:02 JWD wrote:On June 06 2009 01:50 IdrA wrote:
what the fuck happened
tarson asked my why i didnt fe and i explained thats its cuz foreigners dont play predictably...
nothing i said was bad mannered I think the use of "fucking" on a live stream in a paid tournament was inappropriate, and probably set people off (edit: lol, now I see you didn't know the game would be broadcast). Also you have to admit that, with your track record for in-game chat, most anything you say with a swear in it will be assumed to be BM until proven otherwise. Most of the discussion in this this thread had to do with Daniel's reaction, though. it was proven otherwise by reading what i said... yeah, but Koreans don't realise that. Idra, you have the capabilities to do well, your recent performance has been very good. But you have to realise that you're playing in the professional scene, sometimes you just have to manner up. And you'll be a highly notable player (for the good reasons, of course) in time to come.
it wasnt fucking bad mannered i didnt say fuck him i used fuck as an adjective to express my extreme confusion when playing white people.
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haha I just had a great idea.
Idra in your next game , type out an explanation and with a simple apology, he will be forced to at the very least read it.
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On June 06 2009 02:08 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2009 02:07 konadora wrote:On June 06 2009 02:03 IdrA wrote:On June 06 2009 02:02 JWD wrote:On June 06 2009 01:50 IdrA wrote:
what the fuck happened
tarson asked my why i didnt fe and i explained thats its cuz foreigners dont play predictably...
nothing i said was bad mannered I think the use of "fucking" on a live stream in a paid tournament was inappropriate, and probably set people off (edit: lol, now I see you didn't know the game would be broadcast). Also you have to admit that, with your track record for in-game chat, most anything you say with a swear in it will be assumed to be BM until proven otherwise. Most of the discussion in this this thread had to do with Daniel's reaction, though. it was proven otherwise by reading what i said... yeah, but Koreans don't realise that. Idra, you have the capabilities to do well, your recent performance has been very good. But you have to realise that you're playing in the professional scene, sometimes you just have to manner up. And you'll be a highly notable player (for the good reasons, of course) in time to come. it wasnt fucking bad mannered i didnt say fuck him i used fuck as an adjective to express my extreme confusion when playing white people.
if you don't have any other words to use than fuck/shit etc, you really need to expand your vocabulary
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
On June 06 2009 02:07 konadora wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2009 02:03 IdrA wrote:On June 06 2009 02:02 JWD wrote:On June 06 2009 01:50 IdrA wrote:
what the fuck happened
tarson asked my why i didnt fe and i explained thats its cuz foreigners dont play predictably...
nothing i said was bad mannered I think the use of "fucking" on a live stream in a paid tournament was inappropriate, and probably set people off (edit: lol, now I see you didn't know the game would be broadcast). Also you have to admit that, with your track record for in-game chat, most anything you say with a swear in it will be assumed to be BM until proven otherwise. Most of the discussion in this this thread had to do with Daniel's reaction, though. it was proven otherwise by reading what i said... yeah, but Koreans don't realise that. Idra, you have the capabilities to do well, your recent performance has been very good. But you have to realise that you're playing in the professional scene, sometimes you just have to manner up. And you'll be a highly notable player (for the good reasons, of course) in time to come. Edit: So I read SDM swore on cast? That was bad on his part too, two wrongs don't make a right =.="
yeah when talking about idra he said "if you're going to talk shit you better make sure you're the best"
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On June 06 2009 01:50 IdrA wrote:
what the fuck happened
tarson asked my why i didnt fe and i explained thats its cuz foreigners dont play predictably...
nothing i said was bad mannered
Its pretty basic stuff really.
On June 06 2009 01:51 zeox wrote:
It seemed to me that it wasn't about what you said, but how you said it
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On June 06 2009 01:54 Magic84 wrote:
i think he for sure was aware of all the bm episodes and quotes in the past and this one was just a trigger.
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Drama.
ProSC is like any other sport and/or public event. There are expectations placed on people in terms of what constitutes proper conduct. Recent example: look at the thousands of articles written about LeBron leaving without congratulating the Magic. It doesn't matter so much wether you think he deserved the scolding or not, what matters is what was expected of him vs. what he did. If you're a school teacher you are expected not to use foul language in class. When I go to work I am expected to wear a shirt and tie. When at a restaurant you are often expected not to be too loud (for the most part).
Most of us "get it", and so should you after living in SK and being (at least tangentially) part of the Pro scene for some time.
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IdrA, wouldnt it be better to talk directly to SDM or tasteless about this then to randomly post about it on the teamliquid forum?
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On June 06 2009 02:00 IdrA wrote:
we didnt even fucking know it was gonna be broadcast on gom, or anywhere, when we played it
last round they just published replays
that's just unfortunate.
didn't tasteless have the replays for a week before it was aired? if this was the case, he should've been cautious of the ingame chat that could offend koreans, who sees Starcraft manner in a different context.
this is just becoming an overblown bullshit.
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konadora
Singapore66366 Posts
On June 06 2009 02:08 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2009 02:07 konadora wrote:On June 06 2009 02:03 IdrA wrote:On June 06 2009 02:02 JWD wrote:On June 06 2009 01:50 IdrA wrote:
what the fuck happened
tarson asked my why i didnt fe and i explained thats its cuz foreigners dont play predictably...
nothing i said was bad mannered I think the use of "fucking" on a live stream in a paid tournament was inappropriate, and probably set people off (edit: lol, now I see you didn't know the game would be broadcast). Also you have to admit that, with your track record for in-game chat, most anything you say with a swear in it will be assumed to be BM until proven otherwise. Most of the discussion in this this thread had to do with Daniel's reaction, though. it was proven otherwise by reading what i said... yeah, but Koreans don't realise that. Idra, you have the capabilities to do well, your recent performance has been very good. But you have to realise that you're playing in the professional scene, sometimes you just have to manner up. And you'll be a highly notable player (for the good reasons, of course) in time to come. it wasnt fucking bad mannered i didnt say fuck him i used fuck as an adjective to express my extreme confusion when playing white people.
yeah i said it wasn't bm in my earlier post
but the thing is, you're playing in a professional scene, so you just have to watch your words. nobody cares if you use 'fuck' on TL, but people do if you're playing for professional games.
if you didn't know/forgot, then just take this as a learning experience.
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so in what way was this broadcasted anyway? Was it on a television channal or something
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On June 06 2009 02:12 streampowered wrote:
what fun would that be?
yea, you are right, fuck neutrality. Posting in a epic thread of epic proportions.
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On June 06 2009 02:10 Integra wrote:
IdrA, wouldnt it be better to talk directly to SDM or tasteless about this then to randomly post about it on the teamliquid forum?
That's absolutely right
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konadora
Singapore66366 Posts
On June 06 2009 02:10 alffla wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2009 02:07 konadora wrote:On June 06 2009 02:03 IdrA wrote:On June 06 2009 02:02 JWD wrote:On June 06 2009 01:50 IdrA wrote:
what the fuck happened
tarson asked my why i didnt fe and i explained thats its cuz foreigners dont play predictably...
nothing i said was bad mannered I think the use of "fucking" on a live stream in a paid tournament was inappropriate, and probably set people off (edit: lol, now I see you didn't know the game would be broadcast). Also you have to admit that, with your track record for in-game chat, most anything you say with a swear in it will be assumed to be BM until proven otherwise. Most of the discussion in this this thread had to do with Daniel's reaction, though. it was proven otherwise by reading what i said... yeah, but Koreans don't realise that. Idra, you have the capabilities to do well, your recent performance has been very good. But you have to realise that you're playing in the professional scene, sometimes you just have to manner up. And you'll be a highly notable player (for the good reasons, of course) in time to come. Edit: So I read SDM swore on cast? That was bad on his part too, two wrongs don't make a right =.=" yeah when talking about idra he said "if you're going to talk shit you better make sure you're the best"
but he went on to say quite some more, didn't he?
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I think its funny how people give Idra advice like they have been in his position before and they know whats best for his life.
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I think everyone here is getting off topic. The real question is did idra really beg daniel for the lisence? It was said he won it in the estro inhouse tourney, spill the beans idra
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United States12607 Posts
On June 06 2009 02:10 Integra wrote:
IdrA, wouldnt it be better to talk directly to SDM or tasteless about this then to randomly post about it on the teamliquid forum?
He might...but getting to TL is much easier 
And come on, don't discourage TL's only regularly-posting progamer from visiting the site.
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This is a mountain out of a molehill.
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
On June 06 2009 02:13 konadora wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2009 02:10 alffla wrote:On June 06 2009 02:07 konadora wrote:On June 06 2009 02:03 IdrA wrote:On June 06 2009 02:02 JWD wrote:On June 06 2009 01:50 IdrA wrote:
what the fuck happened
tarson asked my why i didnt fe and i explained thats its cuz foreigners dont play predictably...
nothing i said was bad mannered I think the use of "fucking" on a live stream in a paid tournament was inappropriate, and probably set people off (edit: lol, now I see you didn't know the game would be broadcast). Also you have to admit that, with your track record for in-game chat, most anything you say with a swear in it will be assumed to be BM until proven otherwise. Most of the discussion in this this thread had to do with Daniel's reaction, though. it was proven otherwise by reading what i said... yeah, but Koreans don't realise that. Idra, you have the capabilities to do well, your recent performance has been very good. But you have to realise that you're playing in the professional scene, sometimes you just have to manner up. And you'll be a highly notable player (for the good reasons, of course) in time to come. Edit: So I read SDM swore on cast? That was bad on his part too, two wrongs don't make a right =.=" yeah when talking about idra he said "if you're going to talk shit you better make sure you're the best" but he went on to say quite some more, didn't he?
yea lol huge ass SDM RAGGGEEe rant rofl but afaik he only said "shit" once
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On June 06 2009 02:14 RushWifDietCoke wrote:
I think its funny how people give Idra advice like they have been in his position before and they know whats best for his life.
hmm
I know for a fact at 23 that I've had to learn alot of things in this life that are much more dramatic then ingame chat and manner in starcraft. Although the noobs on the forum post some really weird advice.
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United States12607 Posts
On June 06 2009 02:15 Jaksiel wrote:
This is a mountain out of a molehill.
Welcome to the internet...and don't put the blame for this squarely on the posters in this thread - the real source of drama was Daniel and his totally unprofessional reaction to IdrA's comment (his reaction affected the entire cast).
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