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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66286 Posts
May 23 2009 06:46 GMT
#881
That's why I rephrased it
POGGERS
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
May 23 2009 06:47 GMT
#882
On May 23 2009 15:44 darktreb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2009 15:10 Last Romantic wrote:
Flash's style is perfect. People underestimate how good he is when he's aggressive because he never is unless he knows he'll win.

Otherwise it suits him better to extend the game due to his late-game invincibility.

Everything is perfectly calculated ._. scary ma.


It's true - I can't remember him ever overextending himself in a game (arguably Jaedong's only weakness, though being Zerg it's quite understandable).

He also NEVER gets rolled except for the most frustrating possible reason (14CC or maybe a BBS, even though he doesn't do it that much they always seem to happen during big moments), or, very rarely, an extremely well designed build (see Hiya in PL or Leta in the last OSL game 2. He's the smartest in-game (meaning post initial build order) player out there.

He also hasn't won a league in over a year....


This season will be his season... Hopefully... He really deserves to win sth. He is just too good to sit with only one OSL win.

I hope also his win over Fantasy will be a bit of a cold-shower on people who are calling Fantasy the best Terran in the world. He is good, very good. But still Flash is just overall better player.
Oystein
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Norway1602 Posts
May 23 2009 06:49 GMT
#883
On May 23 2009 15:44 darktreb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2009 15:10 Last Romantic wrote:
Flash's style is perfect. People underestimate how good he is when he's aggressive because he never is unless he knows he'll win.

Otherwise it suits him better to extend the game due to his late-game invincibility.

Everything is perfectly calculated ._. scary ma.


It's true - I can't remember him ever overextending himself in a game (arguably Jaedong's only weakness, though being Zerg it's quite understandable).

He did the overextending of the century vs Stork some days ago, 6cc on 2 facts?!?!?
But in general he always seem to have just enough units to defend those seemingly over extensions.
God Hates a Coward
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3016 Posts
May 23 2009 06:52 GMT
#884
On May 23 2009 15:47 Lebesgue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2009 15:44 darktreb wrote:
On May 23 2009 15:10 Last Romantic wrote:
Flash's style is perfect. People underestimate how good he is when he's aggressive because he never is unless he knows he'll win.

Otherwise it suits him better to extend the game due to his late-game invincibility.

Everything is perfectly calculated ._. scary ma.


It's true - I can't remember him ever overextending himself in a game (arguably Jaedong's only weakness, though being Zerg it's quite understandable).

He also NEVER gets rolled except for the most frustrating possible reason (14CC or maybe a BBS, even though he doesn't do it that much they always seem to happen during big moments), or, very rarely, an extremely well designed build (see Hiya in PL or Leta in the last OSL game 2. He's the smartest in-game (meaning post initial build order) player out there.

He also hasn't won a league in over a year....


This season will be his season... Hopefully... He really deserves to win sth. He is just too good to sit with only one OSL win.

I hope also his win over Fantasy will be a bit of a cold-shower on people who are calling Fantasy the best Terran in the world. He is good, very good. But still Flash is just overall better player.


Until Flash proves otherwise, Fantasy should be considered more likely to win a league (or at least make a final).

But when it comes to straight up mass games, there's no question Flash is still the biggest Terran monster out there. Fantasy has yet to demonstrate any reason for us to believe that he can hang with Flash in a non-BO win TvT (it was a while ago, but see their GSL Season 2 games...).

However, Flash's 1-7 record against Bisu/Stork/Best/Jangbi in 2009 continues to worry me somewhat. He's certainly capable of beating each of those players, but results are all that matter.


darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3016 Posts
May 23 2009 06:53 GMT
#885
On May 23 2009 15:49 Oystein wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2009 15:44 darktreb wrote:
On May 23 2009 15:10 Last Romantic wrote:
Flash's style is perfect. People underestimate how good he is when he's aggressive because he never is unless he knows he'll win.

Otherwise it suits him better to extend the game due to his late-game invincibility.

Everything is perfectly calculated ._. scary ma.


It's true - I can't remember him ever overextending himself in a game (arguably Jaedong's only weakness, though being Zerg it's quite understandable).

He did the overextending of the century vs Stork some days ago, 6cc on 2 facts?!?!?
But in general he always seem to have just enough units to defend those seemingly over extensions.


Sorry, what I meant was overextending himself by being too aggressive (such as when Hiya moved in on Skyhigh's natural in the WL finals and threw away a big advantage). But yeah, he also manages to expand harder than anyone else out there ... that Stork game was just ridiculous though.
Nemesis
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2568 Posts
May 23 2009 06:59 GMT
#886
Finally, KTF is coming back

and I think luxury is going to be slumping for a while, so don't expect too much of him
Lee Young Ho fighting! KT P are just CHINTOSSTIC.
Oystein
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Norway1602 Posts
May 23 2009 07:08 GMT
#887
On May 23 2009 15:53 darktreb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2009 15:49 Oystein wrote:
On May 23 2009 15:44 darktreb wrote:
On May 23 2009 15:10 Last Romantic wrote:
Flash's style is perfect. People underestimate how good he is when he's aggressive because he never is unless he knows he'll win.

Otherwise it suits him better to extend the game due to his late-game invincibility.

Everything is perfectly calculated ._. scary ma.


It's true - I can't remember him ever overextending himself in a game (arguably Jaedong's only weakness, though being Zerg it's quite understandable).

He did the overextending of the century vs Stork some days ago, 6cc on 2 facts?!?!?
But in general he always seem to have just enough units to defend those seemingly over extensions.


Sorry, what I meant was overextending himself by being too aggressive (such as when Hiya moved in on Skyhigh's natural in the WL finals and threw away a big advantage). But yeah, he also manages to expand harder than anyone else out there ... that Stork game was just ridiculous though.

Aah OK you meant it in that sense...
Yeah hes extremely good at riding advantages and his decision making is always top notch.

That's why I rephrased it

Sorry, was typing the other post I made while you changed it so didnt notice.
God Hates a Coward
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66286 Posts
May 23 2009 07:11 GMT
#888
On May 23 2009 15:53 darktreb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2009 15:49 Oystein wrote:
On May 23 2009 15:44 darktreb wrote:
On May 23 2009 15:10 Last Romantic wrote:
Flash's style is perfect. People underestimate how good he is when he's aggressive because he never is unless he knows he'll win.

Otherwise it suits him better to extend the game due to his late-game invincibility.

Everything is perfectly calculated ._. scary ma.


It's true - I can't remember him ever overextending himself in a game (arguably Jaedong's only weakness, though being Zerg it's quite understandable).

He did the overextending of the century vs Stork some days ago, 6cc on 2 facts?!?!?
But in general he always seem to have just enough units to defend those seemingly over extensions.


Sorry, what I meant was overextending himself by being too aggressive (such as when Hiya moved in on Skyhigh's natural in the WL finals and threw away a big advantage). But yeah, he also manages to expand harder than anyone else out there ... that Stork game was just ridiculous though.

Lol I just watched his game vs Stork.. lol wow 7 CC while on 2 fact. Only Flash can pull that off lol
POGGERS
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
May 23 2009 07:31 GMT
#889
YAY!
Flash beat the direct duel between the top Terrans! :D

And Bisu lost in a PvP, lol. Violet is scary
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Nanoo
Profile Joined March 2009
229 Posts
May 23 2009 07:34 GMT
#890
lol...KTF Toss n SKT Zerg beat MSL Champs....
JFKWT
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Singapore1442 Posts
May 23 2009 07:42 GMT
#891
wow violet....
The calm before the storm / "loli is not a crime, but meganekko is the way to go!"
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
May 23 2009 07:51 GMT
#892
The saddest thing about SKT fans is, everyone thought KTF will cheese. But SKT lost in straight matchups.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
SilverskY
Profile Joined September 2008
Korea (South)3086 Posts
May 23 2009 07:55 GMT
#893
I must see Violet vs. Bisu PVP ASAP.
Graphics
EpiK
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5757 Posts
May 23 2009 08:02 GMT
#894
wtf bisu?
dnosrc
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany454 Posts
May 23 2009 08:43 GMT
#895
bitter end to the best team of round 4
not only loosing to KTF but also OZ will most likely stay on top of PL and qualify for grand finals
Whiplash
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2928 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-23 08:49:06
May 23 2009 08:48 GMT
#896
why were almost all the matchups mirrors? Bisu should have done pvz, I'm fine with thezerg's zvz, and fantasy should have done tvp... I dont get it ><
Cinematographer / Steadicam Operator. Former Starcraft commentator/player
ZenDeX
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Philippines2916 Posts
May 23 2009 08:53 GMT
#897
On May 23 2009 17:48 Whiplash wrote:
why were almost all the matchups mirrors? Bisu should have done pvz, I'm fine with thezerg's zvz, and fantasy should have done tvp... I dont get it ><

The teams don't get to see their opponents beforehand. They just put players on the map they think they would do very well.
ambit!ous1
Profile Joined September 2007
United States3662 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-23 09:09:27
May 23 2009 09:05 GMT
#898
nvm
Bisu[Shield] / ♔ SoYeon
dekuschrub
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2069 Posts
May 23 2009 09:12 GMT
#899
wowowow look at that violet guy...

pvp little winstreak goin


and hell yes ultimate weapon!!
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
May 23 2009 09:23 GMT
#900
Damn... Too much alcohol tonight and I overslept. Goddamn it !
Anyway, well done KTF.
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
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