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Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
March 28 2009 18:24 GMT
#2561
I'm curious if CJ will be able to continue their dominance in R4. I believe they'll performance really well, but not as good as they did in the WL.
Jaedong
poor newb
Profile Joined April 2004
United States1879 Posts
March 28 2009 18:24 GMT
#2562
skyhigh now has the highest elo in cj
How do you mine minerals?
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
March 28 2009 18:28 GMT
#2563
Wow, what a storybook finish. The giant, on the verge of singlehandedly winning the match for his team, is slain by the young rookie belonging to an old powerhouse to show its return to the top.

On another note, WTF is up with the recommended games spoiler not including game 6 and especially game 7? I thought that both were much more enjoyable than set 4 at least.
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scwizard
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1195 Posts
March 28 2009 18:28 GMT
#2564
Ok, here's what Jaedong needs to do to be the top player.

Swear to never cheese again.

Cheese is something weak players need to use to defeat strong players, if Jaedong is so super amazing he should be able to defeat everyone without resorting to fake spires and the like.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
March 28 2009 18:31 GMT
#2565
Or getting lessons from Luxury about cheesing.
Jaedong
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9103 Posts
March 28 2009 18:32 GMT
#2566
+ Show Spoiler +
wtf jaedong.... no one really beat him, he just beat himself by going 6 pool. Is RHII that bad ZvT? I mean he's jaedong so map balance shouldn't matter that much.
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
March 28 2009 18:32 GMT
#2567
And what was CJ thinking sending Savior out to die in the 3set, anyway?

"Yeah, JD just utterly destroyed Iris with pure muta, I think we should give him another chance to win with mutas, in a ZvZ. 80% schmeighty percent."
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scwizard
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1195 Posts
March 28 2009 18:36 GMT
#2568
On March 29 2009 03:32 JWD wrote:"Yeah, JD just utterly destroyed Iris with pure muta, I think we should give him another chance to win with mutas

Well he didn't win with mutas, he won with the illusion of mutas.

He could have easily won with muta though, and I think if he chose to do that instead of what he did, it would be an indication that he had together and was't letting the winning streak go to his head.

He didn't have it together. The winning streak went right to his head.
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
March 28 2009 18:37 GMT
#2569
jesus
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
March 28 2009 18:38 GMT
#2570
I love how you guys are blasting JD after he took out CJ's 3 best players

LOL he basically handed this match to his team on a silver platter, the 5pool was a calculated risk with the potential of throwing an inexperienced opponent for a loop. You have to consider that, while sKyHigh was probably prepping to play against JD/on RH3 for a month, JD had to prepare for the first three sets of this match. By playing straight up, JD would allow sKyHigh to play whatever build he'd been preparing, and thus cede an advantage to his opponent.

JD played fabulously in this match, stop ragging on him and start getting on his incapable teammates
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Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
March 28 2009 18:44 GMT
#2571
Doing a 3-kill is perfectly respectable and even commendable on Jaedong's part.

Admittedly, he would have won that fourth game if he made more lings instead of drones - but then, hindsight is always 20/20.

Fault for this loss lies wholly with the rest of the HwaSeung team who, apparently, expect to win every match with a Jaedong all-kill.
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CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
March 28 2009 18:45 GMT
#2572
wow
CJ forever (-_-(-_-(-_-(-_-)-_-)-_-)-_-)
scwizard
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1195 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-28 18:49:18
March 28 2009 18:47 GMT
#2573
Skyhigh's career is about to blast itself sky high. It seems like CJ saw that Skyhigh was the only one who's beaten Jaedong, so made him practice a lot. And of course their efforts payed off completely.

Skyhigh's game against HiyA was very well played, with the dropship minedrags and everything. With even more practice I'd say Skyhigh has definite starleague potential.

EDIT: So what kind of nickname should skyhigh get? Legend killer killer?
SilverskY
Profile Joined September 2008
Korea (South)3086 Posts
March 28 2009 18:51 GMT
#2574
Wow, what a final...
Graphics
littlechava
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States7218 Posts
March 28 2009 18:51 GMT
#2575
On March 29 2009 03:44 Last Romantic wrote:
Doing a 3-kill is perfectly respectable and even commendable on Jaedong's part.

Admittedly, he would have won that fourth game if he made more lings instead of drones - but then, hindsight is always 20/20.

Fault for this loss lies wholly with the rest of the HwaSeung team who, apparently, expect to win every match with a Jaedong all-kill.

agreed, i love CJ and everything but it's just pathetic that Oz couldnt finish this match after jaedong set it up for them
Entusman #12
scwizard
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1195 Posts
March 28 2009 18:52 GMT
#2576
Slow down there, HiyA didn't play pathetically, he just played worse than skyhigh who reached new highs.
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
March 28 2009 18:53 GMT
#2577
On March 29 2009 03:52 scwizard wrote:
Slow down there, HiyA didn't play pathetically, he just played worse than skyhigh who reached new highs.
Agreeing with this. The fault doesn't really lie with HiyA, it lies with young and especially Spear for not being able to beat Skyhigh on Protoss-favoured maps.
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scwizard
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1195 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-28 18:57:41
March 28 2009 18:56 GMT
#2578
Certainly, with a 28% rate against terran, Spear isn't beating much of anyone.

I think ultimately Jaedong just needs to join a better team.

For instance KTF. Think of how godly Jaedong would become with KTF_Practice and Flash as practice partners.
LuMiX
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
China5757 Posts
March 28 2009 18:57 GMT
#2579
The blame should be on the rest of OZ team, after being up 3:0 and not being able to take out skyhigh is more than enough reason for their loss...

Go CJ! =D
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-28 19:00:12
March 28 2009 18:58 GMT
#2580
On March 29 2009 03:44 Last Romantic wrote:
Doing a 3-kill is perfectly respectable and even commendable on Jaedong's part.

Admittedly, he would have won that fourth game if he made more lings instead of drones - but then, hindsight is always 20/20.

Fault for this loss lies wholly with the rest of the HwaSeung team who, apparently, expect to win every match with a Jaedong all-kill.


I have no idea why JD switched to drone production so fast...he had killed both of skyhigh's first 2 marines!

5pooling into macro play just seems like a lose/lose strategy...6 lings isn't enough to end the game, and you'll end up behind the Terran economically even if you start droning immediately following your first lings.
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