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JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-05 07:42:04
March 05 2009 07:41 GMT
#121
On March 05 2009 16:37 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:
Mind was in the exact position when he was facing Bisu in the GOMTV S3 (this is all caps, am I getting banned for this?) finals. Many thought him to be the underdog but he pulled it off 3-1.

It's definitely possible for the same to happen to Nada.


Sure, except Mind was a talented up-and-coming Terran who clearly had the raw skill to take down Bisu (we just didn't know him well enough yet).

NaDa, on the other hand...we know exactly what his skill level is, and it's nowhere near JangBi's. All you've proven is that underdogs can win TvP series sometimes. Not a very worthwhile point IMO.
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keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
March 05 2009 07:43 GMT
#122
Why does NaDa have to be playing the only toss I like...
"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-05 07:45:04
March 05 2009 07:44 GMT
#123
On March 05 2009 16:43 keV. wrote:
Why does NaDa have to be playing the only toss I like...


If JangBi is the only toss you like...you've got bigger problems

Honest question: what do you like about JangBi? What makes him special? He seems to me to be the definition of Generic Protoss Player. No style, no personality. Sure, he wins games but...surely there must be some other reason you've picked him?
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NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
March 05 2009 07:44 GMT
#124
As much as I like NaDa its not very likely that he will take away that best of 5 of JangBi. You may never count out NaDa thats for sure, but JangBi is a beast, the only thing NaDa has an edge at is experience and I think there's not too much experience gets you these days.

I'm hoping for NaDa to take the win home 3-2, but I fear JangBi will take it 3-1.

PS: Yes I'm a huge fanboy and really want to shout "LEE YUN YEOL YES KILL HIM" but I won't because there are rules !
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
March 05 2009 07:45 GMT
#125
On March 05 2009 16:44 G.s)NarutO wrote:
PS: Yes I'm a huge fanboy and really want to shout "LEE YUN YEOL YES KILL HIM" but I won't because there are rules !


I think you'd be fine NarutO ^^
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keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
March 05 2009 07:53 GMT
#126
On March 05 2009 16:44 JWD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2009 16:43 keV. wrote:
Why does NaDa have to be playing the only toss I like...


If JangBi is the only toss you like...you've got bigger problems

Honest question: what do you like about Jangbi? What makes him special? He seems to me to be the definition of Generic Protoss Player. No style, no personality. Sure, he wins games but...surely there must be some other reason you've picked him?


I ALSO LIKE YOUNG.

About Jangbi, I don't know really. I just think he plays better than people give him credit for, any Jangbi v S-class player everyone cries S-class and I think he holds his own very well an generally makes those games interesting. I don't really think you need personality to roll over non S-class people. I thought his last series vs Bisu was pretty good as well. Just my thoughts. Its not like there a million ways to play toss these days.

I'd say there are toss that have much less personality.

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"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-05 08:10:48
March 05 2009 07:53 GMT
#127
On March 05 2009 16:44 JWD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2009 16:43 keV. wrote:
Why does NaDa have to be playing the only toss I like...


If JangBi is the only toss you like...you've got bigger problems

Honest question: what do you like about JangBi? What makes him special? He seems to me to be the definition of Generic Protoss Player. No style, no personality. Sure, he wins games but...surely there must be some other reason you've picked him?


By this logic, there should be no Flash fans, since Flash epitomizes the turtle terran style. Can't people be impressed by impressive play?

On March 05 2009 16:08 Qwertify wrote:
Show nested quote +
zhang fei from romance of three kingdoms


What is this? Does anyone know? And how does this tie into JangBi's name? And how is it a secret if it is pretty much openly known? And why should we like JangBi more because he has such a name? Can anyone explain?


Surely you can just google this like 99.9% of things you come across that you dont't know. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhang_Fei

Although I will say that Jangbi's not as aggressive as his namesake, but that's to be expected given the meta-game of SC today. Perhaps the character fits Jaedong more.
Meh
keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
March 05 2009 07:59 GMT
#128
On March 05 2009 16:53 baubo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2009 16:44 JWD wrote:
On March 05 2009 16:43 keV. wrote:
Why does NaDa have to be playing the only toss I like...


If JangBi is the only toss you like...you've got bigger problems

Honest question: what do you like about JangBi? What makes him special? He seems to me to be the definition of Generic Protoss Player. No style, no personality. Sure, he wins games but...surely there must be some other reason you've picked him?


By this logic, there should be no Flash fans, since Flash epitomizes the turtle terran style. Can't people be impressed by impressive play?

Show nested quote +
On March 05 2009 16:08 Qwertify wrote:
zhang fei from romance of three kingdoms


What is this? Does anyone know? And how does this tie into JangBi's name? And how is it a secret if it is pretty much openly known? And why should we like JangBi more because he has such a name? Can anyone explain?


Surely you can just google this like 99.9% of things you come across that you dont't know. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhang_Fei

Although I will say that Jangbi's not as aggressive as his namesake, although I guess that's to be expected given the meta-game of SC today. Perhaps the character fits Jaedong more.



Wow, the only man who ever held a candle to the dreaded Lu Bu.

Jangbi truly is amazing.
"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
March 05 2009 07:59 GMT
#129
On March 05 2009 16:05 Cambium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2009 14:55 zobz wrote:
On March 05 2009 14:42 Cambium wrote:
jangbi fighting~

I'm a new fan after I discovered the meaning of his id

What is the meaning of his id? Can't find an online korean-english dictionary with roman characters.


zhang fei from romance of three kingdoms

if anyone listens to chinese broadcasts of jangbi games, they call him zhang fei. i thought it was a joke but apparently not
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
ZBiR
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
Poland1092 Posts
March 05 2009 08:00 GMT
#130
On March 05 2009 16:44 JWD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2009 16:43 keV. wrote:
Why does NaDa have to be playing the only toss I like...


If JangBi is the only toss you like...you've got bigger problems

Honest question: what do you like about JangBi? What makes him special? He seems to me to be the definition of Generic Protoss Player. No style, no personality. Sure, he wins games but...surely there must be some other reason you've picked him?


Asks a Best fan? Seriously?
aZnvaLiaNce
Profile Joined June 2007
United States942 Posts
March 05 2009 08:04 GMT
#131
On March 05 2009 16:41 JWD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2009 16:37 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:
Mind was in the exact position when he was facing Bisu in the GOMTV S3 (this is all caps, am I getting banned for this?) finals. Many thought him to be the underdog but he pulled it off 3-1.

It's definitely possible for the same to happen to Nada.


Sure, except Mind was a talented up-and-coming Terran who clearly had the raw skill to take down Bisu (we just didn't know him well enough yet).

NaDa, on the other hand...we know exactly what his skill level is, and it's nowhere near JangBi's. All you've proven is that underdogs can win TvP series sometimes. Not a very worthwhile point IMO.

Hahaha, I believe that IS my point. Nada is the underdog, therefore he has a CHANCE to win. Although it's going to be uphill....quite an incline, for Nada that is
Isnt that worth fighting for? Isnt that worth dying for? - Morpheus
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-05 08:08:26
March 05 2009 08:07 GMT
#132
On March 05 2009 17:00 ZBiR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2009 16:44 JWD wrote:
On March 05 2009 16:43 keV. wrote:
Why does NaDa have to be playing the only toss I like...


If JangBi is the only toss you like...you've got bigger problems

Honest question: what do you like about JangBi? What makes him special? He seems to me to be the definition of Generic Protoss Player. No style, no personality. Sure, he wins games but...surely there must be some other reason you've picked him?


Asks a Best fan? Seriously?


What? BeSt easily has one of the most distinctive styles of any Protoss player right now: pure, unadulterated, brute force macro power. This style comes with its weaknesses (PvZ) but I find it extremely entertaining to watch. I don't think there's a more pure macro player in all of SC right now.
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JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-05 08:11:54
March 05 2009 08:11 GMT
#133
On March 05 2009 16:53 baubo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2009 16:44 JWD wrote:
On March 05 2009 16:43 keV. wrote:
Why does NaDa have to be playing the only toss I like...


If JangBi is the only toss you like...you've got bigger problems

Honest question: what do you like about JangBi? What makes him special? He seems to me to be the definition of Generic Protoss Player. No style, no personality. Sure, he wins games but...surely there must be some other reason you've picked him?


By this logic, there should be no Flash fans, since Flash epitomizes the turtle terran style. Can't people be impressed by impressive play?


Of course...even as a non-JB fan I am impressed by some of his crazy PvT wins. But Flash has the allure of being the best Terran out there right now, and possibly the most talented SC player of all time. He already has a Starleague under his belt, tons of rivalries (Bisu, Jaedong), and an interesting storyline (balancing being KTF's workhorse with Starleague success).

JangBi...he's not even the world's best Protoss, and he's just now emerging from Stork's shadow at KHAN. I just don't see many interesting, fan-alluring elements to his play, background, or personality.

I can understand why he has fans (for his immense talent), but it was surprising to hear someone say that JB is the "only Protoss I like".
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keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-05 08:14:05
March 05 2009 08:12 GMT
#134
On March 05 2009 17:11 JWD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2009 16:53 baubo wrote:
On March 05 2009 16:44 JWD wrote:
On March 05 2009 16:43 keV. wrote:
Why does NaDa have to be playing the only toss I like...


If JangBi is the only toss you like...you've got bigger problems

Honest question: what do you like about JangBi? What makes him special? He seems to me to be the definition of Generic Protoss Player. No style, no personality. Sure, he wins games but...surely there must be some other reason you've picked him?


By this logic, there should be no Flash fans, since Flash epitomizes the turtle terran style. Can't people be impressed by impressive play?


Of course...even as a non-JB fan I am impressed by some of his crazy PvT wins. But Flash has the allure of being the best Terran out there right now, and possibly the most talented SC player of all time. He already has a Starleague under his belt, tons of rivalries (Bisu, Jaedong), and an interesting storyline (balancing being KTF's workhorse with Starleague success).

JangBi...he's not even the world's best Protoss, and he's just now emerging from Stork's shadow at KHAN. I just don't see many interesting, fan-alluring elements to his play, background, or personality.



He is still a fairly new player, can hold his own against the best. (Maybe not win) two silvers is nothing to scoff at. Hes definitely the best player without a starleague title.

And who says someone has to be the world's best to be liked =P
"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-05 08:16:17
March 05 2009 08:14 GMT
#135
On March 05 2009 17:12 keV. wrote:
nothing to scoff at. Hes definitely the best player without a starleague title.


Now that Leta's out of both leagues, I agree. I guess this is a good reason to root for JB.

@ your edit: of course I'm not saying someone has to be the world's best in his race to have fans (look at me, I'm a diehard BeSt fan). I brought up Flash being the world's best Terran as an explanation for why he would have fans even considering he plays what baubo called a "turtle terran style".
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Descent
Profile Joined January 2008
1244 Posts
March 05 2009 08:14 GMT
#136
JangBI may not be the best Protoss at the moment, but sans Bisu, he's awfully close, no?
「 Dream & Future 」 ※ 「 STX SouL 」
Disarray
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1164 Posts
March 05 2009 08:15 GMT
#137
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<3 you too Otter Terran!

plz win
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keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
March 05 2009 08:16 GMT
#138
I do think NaDa pulling this one out against all odds would really be something special and it would do wonders for all those x-bonjwa-esque players in getting them to keep their head in the game.
"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
March 05 2009 08:17 GMT
#139
On March 05 2009 17:14 JWD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2009 17:12 keV. wrote:
nothing to scoff at. Hes definitely the best player without a starleague title.


Now that Leta's out of both leagues, I agree. I guess this is a good reason to root for JB.

@ your edit: of course I'm not saying someone has to be the world's best in his race to have fans (look at me, I'm a diehard BeSt fan). I brought up Flash being the world's best Terran as an explanation for why he would have fans even considering he plays what baubo called a "turtle terran style".


haha true enough. At least flash does crazy shit when he gets 14cc'd
"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
Tensai176
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Canada2061 Posts
March 05 2009 08:21 GMT
#140
Go go Chipmunk Terran!
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