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Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21248 Posts
February 21 2009 07:30 GMT
#761
FFS D:
TranslatorBaa!
JIJIyO
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1957 Posts
February 21 2009 07:30 GMT
#762
On February 21 2009 16:29 Puosu wrote:
Oversky just played terrible as hell, wow.

He's just faking it like he did with free. Right? Please tell me I'm right ;_;
KT_Violet
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-21 07:31:26
February 21 2009 07:31 GMT
#763
On February 21 2009 16:30 JIJIyO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2009 16:29 Puosu wrote:
Oversky just played terrible as hell, wow.

He's just faking it like he did with free. Right? Please tell me I'm right ;_;


His mutalisk micro was pretty abysmal just now.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
Kaolla
Profile Joined January 2003
China2999 Posts
February 21 2009 07:31 GMT
#764
i dont know much about zvz but why does he do his 2nd hatch in main? isnt that like forcing you to kill the other guy soon or you will always lose due to scourges? >_<
its me
Deleted User 30223
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
3104 Posts
February 21 2009 07:31 GMT
#765
ACE seems to have an interesting build for ZvZ

it's a shame an out-of-shape yellow and oversky executed it poorly though
EvoChamber
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France2505 Posts
February 21 2009 07:31 GMT
#766
Zero pretty read Oversky's build before the game even began and picked the build that would eat it alive.
That's not awful writing, DAMMIT. It's perfectly sensical english construction.
Deleted User 30223
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
3104 Posts
February 21 2009 07:33 GMT
#767
overskyyyyyy

muta micro so bad
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
February 21 2009 07:34 GMT
#768
he shoud've just 5pooled
EvoChamber
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France2505 Posts
February 21 2009 07:34 GMT
#769
On February 21 2009 16:31 Kaolla wrote:
i dont know much about zvz but why does he do his 2nd hatch in main? isnt that like forcing you to kill the other guy soon or you will always lose due to scourges? >_<


The build is designed to be super-safe, it will give you enough lings to defend your ramp and enough gas/larva to get 7 muta reasonably fast without any real danger. It's extremely common in ZvZ nowadays and gets countered by 12pool/12gas/hatch at natural.
That's not awful writing, DAMMIT. It's perfectly sensical english construction.
Ancestral
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3230 Posts
February 21 2009 07:34 GMT
#770
On February 21 2009 16:16 AttackZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2009 16:13 Ancestral wrote:
Three people with zerg icons claiming Zero is better than free. LOLery



Free isn't a smart player, just solid, he will never be a winner.

Zero has some of the best zerg control in the game right now.

Neither will ever be number 1 but at least zero has potential....

I don't understand when people make assessments like this. Free is solid, and wins a lot. He isn't a creative genius who constantly revolutionizes the game, but neither is Zero.

I think Free is more of a winner because he wins more. I don't like Free all that much, but he's good. I would like to see Zero be consistently good, but I don't think he is. And just because sometimes he plays really well, that doesn't mean he is their "best player."
The Nature and purpose of the martial way are universal; all selfish desires must be roasted in the tempering fires of hard training. - Masutatsu Oyama
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
February 21 2009 07:34 GMT
#771
anyways, off to bed so I can be up in time for Idra vs F91
Kaolla
Profile Joined January 2003
China2999 Posts
February 21 2009 07:37 GMT
#772
On February 21 2009 16:34 EvoChamber wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2009 16:31 Kaolla wrote:
i dont know much about zvz but why does he do his 2nd hatch in main? isnt that like forcing you to kill the other guy soon or you will always lose due to scourges? >_<


The build is designed to be super-safe, it will give you enough lings to defend your ramp and enough gas/larva to get 7 muta reasonably fast without any real danger. It's extremely common in ZvZ nowadays and gets countered by 12pool/12gas/hatch at natural.


but he already saw the 2nd hatch for zero going up on his nat, so he should have known they were about equal in lings and taken nat?! >.<
i still feel its weird to put it in main, of course its safer, but it really puts you in such a horrible position where you have to do some dmg soon otherwise its gg >.<
its me
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7695 Posts
February 21 2009 07:40 GMT
#773
On February 21 2009 16:34 Ancestral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2009 16:16 AttackZerg wrote:
On February 21 2009 16:13 Ancestral wrote:
Three people with zerg icons claiming Zero is better than free. LOLery



Free isn't a smart player, just solid, he will never be a winner.

Zero has some of the best zerg control in the game right now.

Neither will ever be number 1 but at least zero has potential....

I don't understand when people make assessments like this. Free is solid, and wins a lot. He isn't a creative genius who constantly revolutionizes the game, but neither is Zero.

I think Free is more of a winner because he wins more. I don't like Free all that much, but he's good. I would like to see Zero be consistently good, but I don't think he is. And just because sometimes he plays really well, that doesn't mean he is their "best player."



Free is a solid player who will continuately dissapoint his fans and never ever win anything.

Zero might actually win something.

Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
February 21 2009 08:39 GMT
#774
Daezang won, what the hell.
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
DoX.)
Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
February 21 2009 09:03 GMT
#775
WHY NO ANYTIME
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9071 Posts
February 21 2009 09:11 GMT
#776
On February 21 2009 17:39 Itachii wrote:
Daezang won, what the hell.

you have short memory, dont you Daezang has been the best performing recruit of ACE ever since he joined the team, last season he was on an amazing winning streak, making it to the OSL, and he has the great goon micro, I'm pretty serious about it
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
jhNz
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany2762 Posts
February 21 2009 09:25 GMT
#777
ace loses every match 4-3 T_T

but at least DaezanG got the chance to play and took a game.
http://twitter.com/jhNz
Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-21 10:01:20
February 21 2009 10:01 GMT
#778
Yikes, Stars almost lost. At least Zero pulled through at the end.

I feel like this is the first time in Winners League that teams alternated wins the entire match. Does anyone know?
Zero fighting.
dibban
Profile Joined July 2008
Sweden1279 Posts
February 21 2009 10:36 GMT
#779
Ace ;_;
이제동 - 이영호 since '07.
Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
February 21 2009 11:54 GMT
#780
awww ace
that was an epic match.
nobody got more than 1 game lol :D
[~~The Impossible Leads To Invention~~] CJ Entusman #52 The problem with internet quotations is that they are hard to verify -Abraham Lincoln c.1863
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