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Ninja4ever.
Profile Joined March 2008
France231 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-29 16:55:33
December 29 2008 16:44 GMT
#661
On December 30 2008 01:33 triangle wrote:
Um, not to get this into a France bashing thread, but what?

Show nested quote +
1. France has had the most interesting military history of any nation in the world.
2. France has had more victories than any other nation in the world.
3. France has had more battles won than any other nation in the world.
4. France has more great battlefields than any other nation in the world.
5. France has made more innovations in warfare than any other nation in the world.
6. France has turned out more great military leaders than any other nation in the world.
7. France has won more wars single-handedly than any other nation in the world.
8. France has won more wars against great odds than any other nation in the world.
9. France has defeated more nations (some repeatedly) than any other nation in the world.
10. France has defeated more great powes (some repeatedly) than any other nation in the world.
11. France has been involved in more World Wars than any other nation in the world.


1. That's entirely subjective. Personally, I think the Mongols had a "cooler" military history.
5. Almost certain that is totally false. China revolutionized warfare numerous times in terms of technology, and aside from Napoleon, I know of no major tactical advances made by the French.
6. China beats France again simply because China is 10x as old. In terms of rate, Japan, Germany etc. all crush France. And again, this is subjective.
7. Like when?
8. Wow, is that subjective. Um, see above?
9. All that shows is that France gets into wars a lot.
10. See above.
11. That's clearly untrue, and France lost all of those wars (except the first world war, where they were so decimated that I'm counting that as a loss). What about Britain?

All your post shows is that:

A. France gets into wars alot because it's in Europe.
B. France is one of the oldest States on the continent.
That just means France has a really high # of wars fought in.

Those don't really explain if France tends to win wars.

I used to have the same attitude of "don't hate on france" but taking a European history course... I mean, it's pretty bad.


Come on.... Your whole argument is based on how subective the list is, and you make subective comments yourself. "Personally, I think ", " where they were so decimated that I'm counting that as a loss " ?
And if you think it's too subective for you, then just look at french win/lose ratio. It's not bad at all, at least not bad enough to associate the country with losing.

edit : oh and btw : "A. France gets into wars alot because it's in Europe."
It also means they won a shitload of them.
And " That's clearly untrue, and France lost all of those wars except the first world war "
yeah, they lost all those wars but one... wich means they lost one of them lol.
But let's stop with this, as nicky said war sux, and only americans think war history has any impact on one country's value, which is bullshit.

Nony rox, glad i could play him on iccup some months ago.
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Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
6985 Posts
December 29 2008 17:13 GMT
#662
sorry but wars aren't manly

more like idiotic
GinNtoniC
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Sweden2945 Posts
December 29 2008 17:39 GMT
#663
On December 29 2008 05:11 GliNtStyLe wrote:
gl

instaban?
This kind of stuff makes me a sad panda.
There's too many people joining nowadays who just troll the place.
I had to tell another guy off just this morning for coming into a thread, popping something like "rofl you suck, this thread is lawl".

For the preservation of TL quality posters!
HonestTea, you are missed
Huge fan of JulyZerg, HonestTea and that guy Kim Taek Yong.
MayorITC
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Korea (South)798 Posts
December 29 2008 17:52 GMT
#664
Just wow at the people crying about real life racial imbalances.

China wins because they have 1 billion people and can 1a2a3a4a5a their way to victory.

On a serious note, stop disrespecting Nony by turning this thread into a senseless debate about France's superiority/inferiority.
ArtyK.TeMiL
Profile Joined October 2007
Peru140 Posts
December 29 2008 17:52 GMT
#665
this courage is for get the semi pro license isnt? but idra played qualify for OSL last time. how is this? people says idra didnt pass the courage that nony played but he can play qualifies for OSL and MSL? or nony cand do the same?
Since 1998
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-29 18:02:02
December 29 2008 18:00 GMT
#666
On December 30 2008 02:52 ArtyK.TeMiL wrote:
this courage is for get the semi pro license isnt? but idra played qualify for OSL last time. how is this? people says idra didnt pass the courage that nony played but he can play qualifies for OSL and MSL? or nony cand do the same?


Each year every pro team gets 2 or 3 special progamer licenses to give out to promising individuals that have not passed courage. Idra got one of those, because he proved himself against the estro B-team. Since he has a license and a team, he can compete in OSL/MSL qualifiers and play in Proleague if his team puts him on the roster.

Normally, players have to pass courage to earn a progamer license. They are then considered semi-pro until a pro team picks them up. Nony already has a team, so if he passes courage he will be a fully licensed true progamer. No foreigner has ever passed courage, they were all granted special licenses or were there before courage existed.

If Nony wins courage, he will be the first foreigner to ever do so, and be seen as a more legitimate player than Idra in the eyes of many Koreans because he will have passed the test that other Koreans have to, instead of getting special treatment for being a foreigner. I know other Koreans get special licenses as well, but having to pass courage will earn Nony more respect.
_Grazze_
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
834 Posts
December 29 2008 18:04 GMT
#667
legionnaire?assem? didn't they pass courage?
ArtyK.TeMiL
Profile Joined October 2007
Peru140 Posts
December 29 2008 18:07 GMT
#668
excellent answer ^^
thx zzoram
so players like grrr, elky, assem and leg didnt pass something like this before
Since 1998
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-29 18:18:23
December 29 2008 18:12 GMT
#669
On December 30 2008 01:44 Ninja4ever. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2008 01:33 triangle wrote:
Um, not to get this into a France bashing thread, but what?

1. France has had the most interesting military history of any nation in the world.
2. France has had more victories than any other nation in the world.
3. France has had more battles won than any other nation in the world.
4. France has more great battlefields than any other nation in the world.
5. France has made more innovations in warfare than any other nation in the world.
6. France has turned out more great military leaders than any other nation in the world.
7. France has won more wars single-handedly than any other nation in the world.
8. France has won more wars against great odds than any other nation in the world.
9. France has defeated more nations (some repeatedly) than any other nation in the world.
10. France has defeated more great powes (some repeatedly) than any other nation in the world.
11. France has been involved in more World Wars than any other nation in the world.


1. That's entirely subjective. Personally, I think the Mongols had a "cooler" military history.
5. Almost certain that is totally false. China revolutionized warfare numerous times in terms of technology, and aside from Napoleon, I know of no major tactical advances made by the French.
6. China beats France again simply because China is 10x as old. In terms of rate, Japan, Germany etc. all crush France. And again, this is subjective.
7. Like when?
8. Wow, is that subjective. Um, see above?
9. All that shows is that France gets into wars a lot.
10. See above.
11. That's clearly untrue, and France lost all of those wars (except the first world war, where they were so decimated that I'm counting that as a loss). What about Britain?

All your post shows is that:

A. France gets into wars alot because it's in Europe.
B. France is one of the oldest States on the continent.
That just means France has a really high # of wars fought in.

Those don't really explain if France tends to win wars.

I used to have the same attitude of "don't hate on france" but taking a European history course... I mean, it's pretty bad.


Come on.... Your whole argument is based on how subective the list is, and you make subective comments yourself. "Personally, I think ", " where they were so decimated that I'm counting that as a loss " ?
And if you think it's too subective for you, then just look at french win/lose ratio. It's not bad at all, at least not bad enough to associate the country with losing.

edit : oh and btw : "A. France gets into wars alot because it's in Europe."
It also means they won a shitload of them.
And " That's clearly untrue, and France lost all of those wars except the first world war "
yeah, they lost all those wars but one... wich means they lost one of them lol.
But let's stop with this, as nicky said war sux, and only americans think war history has any impact on one country's value, which is bullshit.

Nony rox, glad i could play him on iccup some months ago.


lol

which would just prove the list was subjective in the first place

ps you guys lost a ton of wars, lets be realistic
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Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
6985 Posts
December 29 2008 18:12 GMT
#670
On December 30 2008 03:04 _Grazze_ wrote:
legionnaire?assem? didn't they pass courage?

they did.. atleast Assem did, what Legionnaire passed was the "old" courage league which was different in some way.
ArtyK.TeMiL
Profile Joined October 2007
Peru140 Posts
December 29 2008 19:15 GMT
#671
someone can verify this? or make some rewind and tell wich year they reach that
Since 1998
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
December 29 2008 19:41 GMT
#672
Legionnaire won a harder version of courage. I don't remember his post, but I believe 512 or 256 players played in his courage, and hmmm, I cannot remember the details but he had a post long ago explaining it and why it was more difficult. I believe his courage win is the most impressive to date, if any others won it.
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
ScarFace
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1175 Posts
December 29 2008 19:51 GMT
#673
On December 30 2008 04:41 MYM.Testie wrote:
Legionnaire won a harder version of courage. I don't remember his post, but I believe 512 or 256 players played in his courage, and hmmm, I cannot remember the details but he had a post long ago explaining it and why it was more difficult. I believe his courage win is the most impressive to date, if any others won it.
IIRC, it was 256 people in a series of b01's excluding the final, one loss and your done.

Literally the most frustrating thing any sc player could ever do. o.O
Can you dig it?
Naib
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Hungary4843 Posts
December 29 2008 19:52 GMT
#674
Just as Nick said, Leg has won a different version of courage, and Assem was the only foreigner who won courage apart from him.
Complete the cycle!
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
December 29 2008 23:30 GMT
#675
thats so insane lol i really really hope nony can do it
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GunsofthePatriots
Profile Joined August 2007
South Africa991 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-29 23:39:59
December 29 2008 23:39 GMT
#676
On December 30 2008 03:12 fusionsdf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2008 01:44 Ninja4ever. wrote:
On December 30 2008 01:33 triangle wrote:
Um, not to get this into a France bashing thread, but what?

1. France has had the most interesting military history of any nation in the world.
2. France has had more victories than any other nation in the world.
3. France has had more battles won than any other nation in the world.
4. France has more great battlefields than any other nation in the world.
5. France has made more innovations in warfare than any other nation in the world.
6. France has turned out more great military leaders than any other nation in the world.
7. France has won more wars single-handedly than any other nation in the world.
8. France has won more wars against great odds than any other nation in the world.
9. France has defeated more nations (some repeatedly) than any other nation in the world.
10. France has defeated more great powes (some repeatedly) than any other nation in the world.
11. France has been involved in more World Wars than any other nation in the world.


1. That's entirely subjective. Personally, I think the Mongols had a "cooler" military history.
5. Almost certain that is totally false. China revolutionized warfare numerous times in terms of technology, and aside from Napoleon, I know of no major tactical advances made by the French.
6. China beats France again simply because China is 10x as old. In terms of rate, Japan, Germany etc. all crush France. And again, this is subjective.
7. Like when?
8. Wow, is that subjective. Um, see above?
9. All that shows is that France gets into wars a lot.
10. See above.
11. That's clearly untrue, and France lost all of those wars (except the first world war, where they were so decimated that I'm counting that as a loss). What about Britain?

All your post shows is that:

A. France gets into wars alot because it's in Europe.
B. France is one of the oldest States on the continent.
That just means France has a really high # of wars fought in.

Those don't really explain if France tends to win wars.

I used to have the same attitude of "don't hate on france" but taking a European history course... I mean, it's pretty bad.


Come on.... Your whole argument is based on how subective the list is, and you make subective comments yourself. "Personally, I think ", " where they were so decimated that I'm counting that as a loss " ?
And if you think it's too subective for you, then just look at french win/lose ratio. It's not bad at all, at least not bad enough to associate the country with losing.

edit : oh and btw : "A. France gets into wars alot because it's in Europe."
It also means they won a shitload of them.
And " That's clearly untrue, and France lost all of those wars except the first world war "
yeah, they lost all those wars but one... wich means they lost one of them lol.
But let's stop with this, as nicky said war sux, and only americans think war history has any impact on one country's value, which is bullshit.

Nony rox, glad i could play him on iccup some months ago.


lol

which would just prove the list was subjective in the first place

ps you guys lost a ton of wars, lets be realistic


o.o!! french vs. canadians gogo

funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9374 Posts
December 29 2008 23:50 GMT
#677
I can't believe people actually derailed this thread to turn it into a fucking World War and why france fucking sucks thread..

Jesus Christ.
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Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4146 Posts
December 29 2008 23:55 GMT
#678
On December 30 2008 02:39 GinNtoniC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2008 05:11 GliNtStyLe wrote:
gl

instaban?
This kind of stuff makes me a sad panda.
There's too many people joining nowadays who just troll the place.
I had to tell another guy off just this morning for coming into a thread, popping something like "rofl you suck, this thread is lawl".

For the preservation of TL quality posters!
HonestTea, you are missed


dude, I was wondering how you deal with your cacosmia..
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isbunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Sweden1017 Posts
December 29 2008 23:57 GMT
#679
On December 28 2008 15:38 jodogohoo wrote:
i watched the whole video, it was really nice to watch.

is there a reason that u have to post in blue, are u speical in some way? please stop
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Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vatican City State491 Posts
December 30 2008 00:43 GMT
#680
Nony you need to become a progamer and win the OSL, because I have a replay where you lost vs me and I will be able to brag to my friends :D
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