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Apanthropy1
Profile Joined June 2008
United States14 Posts
November 27 2008 09:09 GMT
#281
Shark.
LazySCV
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
United States2942 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-27 09:11:23
November 27 2008 09:11 GMT
#282
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p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
November 27 2008 09:13 GMT
#283
can't wait for the evening groups to start, I'm really hoping that (P)Pusan, (Z)EffOrt, (T)Sea.Really, (P)SangHo, and of course, (T)XellOs will all advance.

It would be nice to see good things out of (T)AzAng, (T)DarkElf, (Z)Orion, (P)Zeus, or (P)RainBOw, but I'm not as big on them as the aforementioned players.

Lots of CJ players still left on the board.
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firedodo
Profile Joined November 2008
China116 Posts
November 27 2008 09:18 GMT
#284
Protoss for MSL seeds
Terran for Survivors
Zerg for Offline Prelims
oh man.
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-27 09:20:32
November 27 2008 09:19 GMT
#285
On November 27 2008 15:09 Kuja900 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2008 14:35 tracer wrote:
On November 27 2008 14:21 Kuja900 wrote:
can any koreans who are on the stream tell me what they think of idra?


Idra went for a really classic build, teching early while sacrificing an early natural expansion. July used lurk/ling really effectively (hydra den before spire; he did make mutas but did almost nothing on the account of Idra's fast vessels) to block early MnM aggression, putting him in a very advantageous position mid-game. It was pretty much 1a2a3a4u GG from there.

Btw, Best just got totally raped by that no-name Woongjin protoss.


yeah but was wondering if anyone knows what the korean commentators were thinking of idra as a player/contender

the MBC game commentators were really generous to Idra (almost too generous, even when idra was being raped in a OTL position they kept saying he was a good player)

Although, they did make a comment of how Foreign people had better sense of Macro management rather than Micro management.

edit: Hopefully we'll see alot of zerg players so we dont have zerg players making millions of threads of how bad zerg players have it etc etc
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Realpenguin
Profile Joined December 2006
8253 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-27 09:22:03
November 27 2008 09:21 GMT
#286
KWANRO!!! I still love this guy, even though he hasn't been putting up results lately.

(MVP IS GONNA HAVE A BREAKOUT SEASON - JUST WATCH)
<Wolfpox> i remember when MVP beat that one guy, and everyone was like 'whoa' except that penguin dude.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10774 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-27 09:26:02
November 27 2008 09:24 GMT
#287
Nice for Zerg... But it does not say to much. I mean.. just search for the *big* or *good known* players in this prelims...


Just compare the names... I picked the ones I know *kinda good* (I'm sure i missed some important ones that i actually know... but well, i'm at work :p):

Zerg: Luxury, July, GGPlay, GoRush (yay), Calm, TheZerg, Effort, Nal_keke - Aside from Keke all of them are *known* for doing good recently.

Terran: Mind, Light, Midas, Sea - Yeah, that’s about it, did any of these do really good recently?

Toss: Best (ahahahaha :p), Rock, Chalrenge, InToTheRainbow, Tester, Pusan, TT, BestGod - I see... 1 S/A class player in here (Best) and the rest... Well... Theyre not even A?



Actually if you look at that... The Zergs HAD to win many groups, everything else would have been an upset...


If you look at the already set players from last MSL:

Zerg got 2 possible powerhouses and one good player (Savior, Jaedong, Yarnc).

Terran got any player that you ever heard of (Nada, Fantasy, Firebathero, Flash, fOrGG, FrOzean, Hwasin, Iris, Leta, Lomo, NaDa, Sea). This are just the guys you HAVE to know because they are able to do awesome.... Yes, some of them slump right now but well...

Toss got everything... BackHo, Bisu*, free*, JangBi*, Kal*, Much, Stork*... I mean is there even a single A/S-Class Toss not in this aside from Best?
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 27 2008 09:26 GMT
#288
Velr, those big-names are fine of course. But the fact is that many not-so-well-known Zergs have been advancing =)
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Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10774 Posts
November 27 2008 09:29 GMT
#289
Yes... But there were nearly *no* big names of the others that should kill these no-name-zergs with ease.

It was Noname vs Noname or Noname vs BigZerg... Most of the time.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
November 27 2008 09:29 GMT
#290
On November 27 2008 18:24 Velr wrote:
Toss got everything... BackHo, Bisu*, free*, JangBi*, Kal*, Much, Stork*... I mean is there even a single A/S-Class Toss not in this aside from Best?
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imDerek
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States1944 Posts
November 27 2008 09:34 GMT
#291
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Least favorite progamers: Leta, Zero, Mind, Shine, free, really <-- newly added
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-27 09:35:53
November 27 2008 09:35 GMT
#292
On November 27 2008 18:29 Velr wrote:
Yes... But there were nearly *no* big names of the others that should kill these no-name-zergs with ease.

It was Noname vs Noname or Noname vs BigZerg... Most of the time.

Of course no-name zergs aren't expected to kill big-name non-Zergs -_- The point is, in the battles between nonames and nonames, mostly Zergs came out victorious. What part don't you understand
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Elsi
Profile Joined October 2002
United Kingdom8173 Posts
November 27 2008 09:35 GMT
#293
IdrA, can you give us a detailed game report of your matches?
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 27 2008 09:37 GMT
#294
When are the last groups starting? Any idea?
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IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
November 27 2008 09:40 GMT
#295
first game on destination i did a one base build, lifted fac outside my base and made 2 vultures, he was ready for them they didnt really do anything. went fast vessel and he went 2 hatch muta, had irad by the time his mutas were there and fended them off without taking any damage, most of his mutas were hurt badly or killed by 2 irads. went to attack his 3rd base with mm/vessel, he had lurkers out. attacked and killed 2 or 3 and had to pull back with lings coming in, first tanks out and moved to push again. did ok and had a nice marine spread but he had too much shit. he got his 3rd hatch faster than my practice partners did, sacrificed muta timing for it. allowed him to have enough lurker ling to break me.

on medusa i 14 cc'd and he opened 2 hatch lurker, killed temples. i saw it coming and made 2 (or 3? i forget) bunkers behind my main + 2 in front, expecting a lurker ling allin. he just contained with 3 lurkers and went 2 hatch muta which i didnt scout. killed a decent number of scv marine and by the time i stabilized and had a vessel he had guardians out. i think it was an allin, 2 base the whole time, but i wasnt able to scout every expo so he may have hidden one.
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-27 10:42:45
November 27 2008 09:40 GMT
#296
edited out
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disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
November 27 2008 09:41 GMT
#297
ou wtf han, first beating rock than falling down to old captain GoRush?
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Elsi
Profile Joined October 2002
United Kingdom8173 Posts
November 27 2008 09:46 GMT
#298
Cheers for the reports Greg, appreciate it!

Sounds you were pretty unlikely in game 1 and 2! Just caught off guard by his unusual play!
ASAzerg
Profile Joined November 2008
Canada33 Posts
November 27 2008 09:48 GMT
#299
On November 27 2008 18:40 IdrA wrote:
first game on destination i did a one base build, lifted fac outside my base and made 2 vultures, he was ready for them they didnt really do anything. went fast vessel and he went 2 hatch muta, had irad by the time his mutas were there and fended them off without taking any damage, most of his mutas were hurt badly or killed by 2 irads. went to attack his 3rd base with mm/vessel, he had lurkers out. attacked and killed 2 or 3 and had to pull back with lings coming in, first tanks out and moved to push again. did ok and had a nice marine spread but he had too much shit. he got his 3rd hatch faster than my practice partners did, sacrificed muta timing for it. allowed him to have enough lurker ling to break me.

on medusa i 14 cc'd and he opened 2 hatch lurker, killed temples. i saw it coming and made 2 (or 3? i forget) bunkers behind my main + 2 in front, expecting a lurker ling allin. he just contained with 3 lurkers and went 2 hatch muta which i didnt scout. killed a decent number of scv marine and by the time i stabilized and had a vessel he had guardians out. i think it was an allin, 2 base the whole time, but i wasnt able to scout every expo so he may have hidden one.


Wow, I want to see the replay.

On a side note, is it just bad luck that you have to face July in the very first match of MSL prelims?
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
November 27 2008 09:53 GMT
#300
YES XellOs is still alive!
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