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Kula
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States140 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-23 01:24:28
November 23 2008 01:22 GMT
#1441
On November 23 2008 07:22 Dazed_Spy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2008 06:09 Februarys wrote:
On November 22 2008 19:26 OneOther wrote:
On November 22 2008 19:24 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
lol at people who thought jangbi was gonna win this

bisu plays like a retard sometimes, but he's waaaaaaay the fuck better than jangbi

no he's not
bisu may be better at bo5 due to more experience/mental strength, but jangbi is a mechanically better player. how does this prove anything besides what we already knew?

i am not saying jangbi should have won or anything, but how the hell is bisu way fucking better than him


Maybe because Bisu just outplayed him during this Bo5? Bisu lost 1st game cause he carelessly lost reaver shuttles but look at game 2,3, and 4 and tell me Jangbi is a mechanically better player

Stop letting your KHAN fanboyism blind you and finally admit that your favored player lost -_-
Its only a matter of time before Stork gets dethroned btw. Enjoy, this MSL finals in your face
Jangbi IS mechanically better than Bisu. Bisu IS better than Jangbi over all. Jangbi DID play well. Bisu DID win this msl on calculated gambles. Which IS legitimate, and happens MORE often than not.

Seriously people, shut the fuck up already.

How would you define "mechanically"? Macro? Micro? Multitask?

outplaying = getting build disadvantage?
only game i am willing to give credit to bisu is for game 4
and i did admit it a long time ago, i am happy for what bisu was able to achieve.

How come noone took anything away from Flash when he 3-0'ed Stork by "build advantages"?
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
November 23 2008 02:18 GMT
#1442
On November 23 2008 10:22 Kula wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2008 07:22 Dazed_Spy wrote:
On November 23 2008 06:09 Februarys wrote:
On November 22 2008 19:26 OneOther wrote:
On November 22 2008 19:24 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
lol at people who thought jangbi was gonna win this

bisu plays like a retard sometimes, but he's waaaaaaay the fuck better than jangbi

no he's not
bisu may be better at bo5 due to more experience/mental strength, but jangbi is a mechanically better player. how does this prove anything besides what we already knew?

i am not saying jangbi should have won or anything, but how the hell is bisu way fucking better than him


Maybe because Bisu just outplayed him during this Bo5? Bisu lost 1st game cause he carelessly lost reaver shuttles but look at game 2,3, and 4 and tell me Jangbi is a mechanically better player

Stop letting your KHAN fanboyism blind you and finally admit that your favored player lost -_-
Its only a matter of time before Stork gets dethroned btw. Enjoy, this MSL finals in your face
Jangbi IS mechanically better than Bisu. Bisu IS better than Jangbi over all. Jangbi DID play well. Bisu DID win this msl on calculated gambles. Which IS legitimate, and happens MORE often than not.

Seriously people, shut the fuck up already.

How would you define "mechanically"? Macro? Micro? Multitask?

Show nested quote +
outplaying = getting build disadvantage?
only game i am willing to give credit to bisu is for game 4
and i did admit it a long time ago, i am happy for what bisu was able to achieve.

How come noone took anything away from Flash when he 3-0'ed Stork by "build advantages"?


Hello, let me introduce you to PvP. BO Wins.
I'm not saying thats what happened, I'm just answering his questions.
Jaedong
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9031 Posts
November 23 2008 02:39 GMT
#1443
Too easy.
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
November 23 2008 03:11 GMT
#1444
On November 23 2008 11:39 Garnet wrote:
Too easy.


LOLOLOL, I popped in this thread just to type too easy and leave.
Out trolled... friggin aye.
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
fearus
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
China2164 Posts
November 23 2008 03:19 GMT
#1445
OneOther is jsut a angry troll because when jangbi woke up this morning he had to take two morning afters and was still feeling the soreness.

bisu fanboy
traced
Profile Joined October 2007
1739 Posts
November 23 2008 03:21 GMT
#1446
at least he's a giver ^_^
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-23 03:29:34
November 23 2008 03:24 GMT
#1447
On November 23 2008 12:19 fearus wrote:
OneOther is jsut a angry troll because when jangbi woke up this morning he had to take two morning afters and was still feeling the soreness.


....i said i am happy for bisu winning, i was just arguing against steve calling people who rooted for jangbi "retards" because bisu is "way fuckin better"
Kula
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States140 Posts
November 23 2008 03:45 GMT
#1448
On November 23 2008 11:18 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2008 10:22 Kula wrote:
On November 23 2008 07:22 Dazed_Spy wrote:
On November 23 2008 06:09 Februarys wrote:
On November 22 2008 19:26 OneOther wrote:
On November 22 2008 19:24 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
lol at people who thought jangbi was gonna win this

bisu plays like a retard sometimes, but he's waaaaaaay the fuck better than jangbi

no he's not
bisu may be better at bo5 due to more experience/mental strength, but jangbi is a mechanically better player. how does this prove anything besides what we already knew?

i am not saying jangbi should have won or anything, but how the hell is bisu way fucking better than him


Maybe because Bisu just outplayed him during this Bo5? Bisu lost 1st game cause he carelessly lost reaver shuttles but look at game 2,3, and 4 and tell me Jangbi is a mechanically better player

Stop letting your KHAN fanboyism blind you and finally admit that your favored player lost -_-
Its only a matter of time before Stork gets dethroned btw. Enjoy, this MSL finals in your face
Jangbi IS mechanically better than Bisu. Bisu IS better than Jangbi over all. Jangbi DID play well. Bisu DID win this msl on calculated gambles. Which IS legitimate, and happens MORE often than not.

Seriously people, shut the fuck up already.

How would you define "mechanically"? Macro? Micro? Multitask?

outplaying = getting build disadvantage?
only game i am willing to give credit to bisu is for game 4
and i did admit it a long time ago, i am happy for what bisu was able to achieve.

How come noone took anything away from Flash when he 3-0'ed Stork by "build advantages"?


Hello, let me introduce you to PvP. BO Wins.
I'm not saying thats what happened, I'm just answering his questions.

Who's questions are you answering? Doesn't seem to be mine...
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
November 23 2008 04:21 GMT
#1449
On November 23 2008 12:45 Kula wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2008 11:18 Avidkeystamper wrote:
On November 23 2008 10:22 Kula wrote:
On November 23 2008 07:22 Dazed_Spy wrote:
On November 23 2008 06:09 Februarys wrote:
On November 22 2008 19:26 OneOther wrote:
On November 22 2008 19:24 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
lol at people who thought jangbi was gonna win this

bisu plays like a retard sometimes, but he's waaaaaaay the fuck better than jangbi

no he's not
bisu may be better at bo5 due to more experience/mental strength, but jangbi is a mechanically better player. how does this prove anything besides what we already knew?

i am not saying jangbi should have won or anything, but how the hell is bisu way fucking better than him


Maybe because Bisu just outplayed him during this Bo5? Bisu lost 1st game cause he carelessly lost reaver shuttles but look at game 2,3, and 4 and tell me Jangbi is a mechanically better player

Stop letting your KHAN fanboyism blind you and finally admit that your favored player lost -_-
Its only a matter of time before Stork gets dethroned btw. Enjoy, this MSL finals in your face
Jangbi IS mechanically better than Bisu. Bisu IS better than Jangbi over all. Jangbi DID play well. Bisu DID win this msl on calculated gambles. Which IS legitimate, and happens MORE often than not.

Seriously people, shut the fuck up already.

How would you define "mechanically"? Macro? Micro? Multitask?

outplaying = getting build disadvantage?
only game i am willing to give credit to bisu is for game 4
and i did admit it a long time ago, i am happy for what bisu was able to achieve.

How come noone took anything away from Flash when he 3-0'ed Stork by "build advantages"?


Hello, let me introduce you to PvP. BO Wins.
I'm not saying thats what happened, I'm just answering his questions.

Who's questions are you answering? Doesn't seem to be mine...


Yours, everyone knows PvP is more reliant on BO than TvP. I'm not saying Bisu didn't great, I'm just answering your question. I mean look at Bisu vs Free G3. Totally BO win, even with Free's awesome probe micro. The only equivalent would be a DT rush.
Jaedong
RamenStyle
Profile Joined September 2004
United States1929 Posts
November 23 2008 05:27 GMT
#1450
Damn, I was expecting a 3-2. It felt to quick. Good for Bisu(I voted him on LB) but deep inside I guess I was rooting for Jangbi because I didn't feel that happy after game 4.
LimitlessSky
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States434 Posts
November 23 2008 05:30 GMT
#1451
Yeah Game 4 was pretty disappointing. I was hoping for Jangbi to make it really hard for Bisu to win.

I'm still pretty glad that Bisu won and I got to witness it =D. I just started playing SC this month.
SKT1 Fighting! <3
InfeSteD
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States4658 Posts
November 23 2008 07:05 GMT
#1452
On November 23 2008 12:24 OneOther wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2008 12:19 fearus wrote:
OneOther is jsut a angry troll because when jangbi woke up this morning he had to take two morning afters and was still feeling the soreness.


....i said i am happy for bisu winning, i was just arguing against steve calling people who rooted for jangbi "retards" because bisu is "way fuckin better"


You are right bout Steve calling everyone who cheered for jangbi retards but then again its Steve

but about being way fucking bettter... its true (P)Bisu > (P)JangBi
w/e
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
November 23 2008 07:15 GMT
#1453
I'd pee on steve's face
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
viceroy
Profile Joined January 2003
Romania227 Posts
November 23 2008 13:28 GMT
#1454
None of the games proved that Bisu>Jangbi or Jangbi>Bisu. I felt they both played good and Bisu won because was more confident and took more risks...
Nice games and smart play by both !
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
November 23 2008 16:14 GMT
#1455
I felt complete ownage and superiority rape.
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
Kula
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States140 Posts
November 23 2008 20:08 GMT
#1456
On November 23 2008 13:21 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2008 12:45 Kula wrote:
On November 23 2008 11:18 Avidkeystamper wrote:
On November 23 2008 10:22 Kula wrote:
On November 23 2008 07:22 Dazed_Spy wrote:
On November 23 2008 06:09 Februarys wrote:
On November 22 2008 19:26 OneOther wrote:
On November 22 2008 19:24 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
lol at people who thought jangbi was gonna win this

bisu plays like a retard sometimes, but he's waaaaaaay the fuck better than jangbi

no he's not
bisu may be better at bo5 due to more experience/mental strength, but jangbi is a mechanically better player. how does this prove anything besides what we already knew?

i am not saying jangbi should have won or anything, but how the hell is bisu way fucking better than him


Maybe because Bisu just outplayed him during this Bo5? Bisu lost 1st game cause he carelessly lost reaver shuttles but look at game 2,3, and 4 and tell me Jangbi is a mechanically better player

Stop letting your KHAN fanboyism blind you and finally admit that your favored player lost -_-
Its only a matter of time before Stork gets dethroned btw. Enjoy, this MSL finals in your face
Jangbi IS mechanically better than Bisu. Bisu IS better than Jangbi over all. Jangbi DID play well. Bisu DID win this msl on calculated gambles. Which IS legitimate, and happens MORE often than not.

Seriously people, shut the fuck up already.

How would you define "mechanically"? Macro? Micro? Multitask?

outplaying = getting build disadvantage?
only game i am willing to give credit to bisu is for game 4
and i did admit it a long time ago, i am happy for what bisu was able to achieve.

How come noone took anything away from Flash when he 3-0'ed Stork by "build advantages"?


Hello, let me introduce you to PvP. BO Wins.
I'm not saying thats what happened, I'm just answering his questions.

Who's questions are you answering? Doesn't seem to be mine...


Yours, everyone knows PvP is more reliant on BO than TvP. I'm not saying Bisu didn't great, I'm just answering your question. I mean look at Bisu vs Free G3. Totally BO win, even with Free's awesome probe micro. The only equivalent would be a DT rush.

Here are my questions.
1. How would you define "mechanically"? Macro? Micro? Multitask?

Your Answer
Hello, let me introduce you to PvP. BO Wins.
I'm not saying thats what happened, I'm just answering his questions.

Doesn't even make sense.

2. How come noone took anything away from Flash when he 3-0'ed Stork by "build advantages"?

Hello, let me introduce you to PvP. BO Wins.
I'm not saying thats what happened, I'm just answering his questions.

Like I asked, if PvP is more reliant on BO wins and Bisu won with BO wins, what's the problem? When Flash won with "BO wins", it wasn't a big deal, now it is? Again, I can't see who you're answering, and if you are really answering my questions, those are very lousy and off-topic answers. :[
Batisterio-PiB
Profile Joined August 2007
Brazil219 Posts
November 23 2008 20:28 GMT
#1457
Game 4 wasnt a BO win! Bisu outplayed and outmicro Jangbi! Like in game 2!
Bisu lost some probes and mining time to defend. Meanwhile Jangbi exp got finished!
And credits to Bisu to defend the exp, what didnt happen to jangbi...sure the bo was different.
When I saw the way game 1 finished I belived that Bisu would take 3-1...he lost 2 reavers+shuttle and defend the first attack...that show superior play that was shown in the rest of the match
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2094 Posts
November 23 2008 22:37 GMT
#1458
Bisu's early game defense is quite scary. Sometimes he can magically hold on through the first timing attack and proceed to roll over his opponent. It's amazing.

He did it against Free's proxy gates, against Jangbi in game 2 and also against Stork in game 2 in the OSL.
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
November 23 2008 22:45 GMT
#1459
jangbi is not better than bisu mechanically

we're talking about a protoss who based his entire PvZ around superior multitasking here. jangbi aint got shit on bisu mechanically.
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
FieryBalrog
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1381 Posts
November 23 2008 23:09 GMT
#1460
On November 23 2008 13:21 Avidkeystamper wrote:


Yours, everyone knows PvP is more reliant on BO than TvP.


Which has absolutely nothing to do with his question, because Flash's wins were even more BO dependent, regardless of the general case we are talking about a specific case. Logic 101 ftw.
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