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[MSL] Ro8: Jangbi vs. YellOw[ArnC] - Page 9

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economist_
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Vietnam719 Posts
November 01 2008 05:31 GMT
#161
Think Yellow had quite of lot of lurkers died uncontrolled
Economics forecast assumes everything, except responsibilities
Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
November 01 2008 05:31 GMT
#162
Destination now 5-11 ZvP, looks bad.
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
November 01 2008 05:31 GMT
#163
just for fun, because it's not included in the op

Yellow[arnc] is 7-3 in his last 10 games,
jangbi is 9-1

yarnc is 5-5 in his last 10 zvp's
jangbi is 9-1 in his last 10 pvz's
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EvoChamber
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France2505 Posts
November 01 2008 05:32 GMT
#164
Yarnc had better have a killer build for Byzantium or he's going out 3-0.
That's not awful writing, DAMMIT. It's perfectly sensical english construction.
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
November 01 2008 05:32 GMT
#165
On November 01 2008 14:29 Yaqoob wrote:
That game was very sad. Yellow had 4 bases against 2 for quite a while and he still lost. His micro against Jangbi's army really appeared to be lacking and he didn't make any scourge so he could snip the observers. The last battle where he had 12+ hydras and just let Jangbi kill 4-5 overloads that he brought over was quite sad.


The overlords didn't matter at that point, but it was quite sloppy. Jangbi managed to get his econ up and running really easily as well because yarnc was droning for quite a while (not enough lings showing to force jangbi to build more cannons)
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TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-01 05:35:16
November 01 2008 05:33 GMT
#166
On November 01 2008 14:29 Yaqoob wrote:
That game was very sad. Yellow had 4 bases against 2 for quite a while and he still lost. His micro against Jangbi's army really appeared to be lacking and he didn't make any scourge so he could snip the observers. The last battle where he had 12+ hydras and just let Jangbi kill 4-5 overloads that he brought over was quite sad.

His mutas didnt delay him enough like they were meant to, mostly due to their foundness for archons(They like shiny objects?). Jangbi moved out with the perfect timing before those 4 bases could really pay off at all. Yarnc didnt have nearly enough drones to fully power those 4 bases. Jangbi on the other hand was macroing hard off a low number saturated bases. That makes it extremely easy to mass a quick army and pull ahead in psi for a brief time. Jangbi,being a talented pro, abused it perfectly against yarncs very thinly spread defenses.

I didn't think of it as sad. Mainly just really nice protoss play. For those of you who seem to not understand. Jangbi's decesion to suicide the rest of his troops (archon + 3 zs) as a distraction while his dt snuck in and got 8 drones won him the game. Without this huge delay yarnc would have most likely been able to defend his 4 bases and quickly pull ahead from there.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
November 01 2008 05:33 GMT
#167
I see perhaps 4 or 5 pool byzantion, no way 0-8 zvp so far this and last map version. So definetly cheese coming from yarnc.
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
November 01 2008 05:33 GMT
#168
I think they're tormenting Hwasin right now.
ShloobeR
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Korea (South)3827 Posts
November 01 2008 05:33 GMT
#169
The twins seem to have this obsession that mass hydra will be more effective then it really is ZvP :S
: o )
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
November 01 2008 05:33 GMT
#170
next map: Byzantium 2
there was only one zvp played on it, and it was jaedong v free. Jaedong lost that game. Yarnc better have a good idea of what he's planning on doing.
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shavingcream66
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1219 Posts
November 01 2008 05:34 GMT
#171
tv ad for "factory girl?" girls look hot :D
Saracen
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5139 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-01 05:36:48
November 01 2008 05:35 GMT
#172
can i get the VLC URL? (the one from the zatic stream)

edit: not the VLC thread link, the actual URL that you copy/paste into the VLC player
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
November 01 2008 05:36 GMT
#173
On November 01 2008 14:33 ShloobeR wrote:
The twins seem to have this obsession that mass hydra will be more effective then it really is ZvP :S



july has shown that mass hydra can be quite good. However, it looks like the twins don't quite have the same grasp of the game that Jaedong or july have. It seems like they're just hitting the wall that separates an S class player from an A player.
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TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
November 01 2008 05:38 GMT
#174
On November 01 2008 14:33 ShloobeR wrote:
The twins seem to have this obsession that mass hydra will be more effective then it really is ZvP :S

Mass hydra can be effective if your game management is perfect. You can't afford mistakes like yarnc made(letting dt in/running into archons with mutas).
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
EvoChamber
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France2505 Posts
November 01 2008 05:38 GMT
#175
Jangbi threw down some excellent storms, Yarnc failed to snipe observers. GG for Jangbi.
That's not awful writing, DAMMIT. It's perfectly sensical english construction.
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
November 01 2008 05:39 GMT
#176
To be fair to Luxury, his zvp is miles ahead of his brother's, in an entirely different level in fact. Luxury's zvp is just a weak match up, sloppy compared to his others [much in the way storks pvz seems bad compared to his pvp and pvt]. Yarncs zvp however, is just genuinely poor.
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Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11305 Posts
November 01 2008 05:39 GMT
#177
Byzantium is almost ready for the players. Jangbi looking confident with what he achieved so far. Brown zerg top right, orange protoss bottom left. At least more difficult scouting for Jangbi here.
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GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
November 01 2008 05:39 GMT
#178
next game, Byzantium 2,

yarnc at top right, jangbi at bottom left
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ShloobeR
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Korea (South)3827 Posts
November 01 2008 05:39 GMT
#179
On November 01 2008 14:36 waterGHOSTCLAWdragon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2008 14:33 ShloobeR wrote:
The twins seem to have this obsession that mass hydra will be more effective then it really is ZvP :S



july has shown that mass hydra can be quite good. However, it looks like the twins don't quite have the same grasp of the game that Jaedong or july have. It seems like they're just hitting the wall that separates an S class player from an A player.


July puts a lot of pressure on the Toss early on though, the twins tend to sit back and build up a hydra army and then get raped by storms : (
: o )
village_idiot
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
2436 Posts
November 01 2008 05:39 GMT
#180
YARNC top right
JANGBI bottom left
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