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[X]Ken_D
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States4650 Posts
September 29 2008 10:27 GMT
#281
On September 29 2008 04:15 GinNtoniC wrote:
Everyone calling out a complete rape from Flash vs GGplay must already have forgotten about the way the odds were stacked when Flash went up against Luxury last OSL.

How did that end?
Say again?
0-2?

edit: Remember, this is the guy who brought you one of the best OSL Finals in memory, crowned with his game 5 against Iris.
Don't diss GGplay just yet!


At the time when Luxury beat Flash 2-0, Luxury was almost up there with Jaedong in ZvT. Even then, GGplay is not even close to the level of skill of those 2 zerg players. Flash lost because his zerg opponent gotten a lot better at ZvT. Did GGplay's got better? His recent ZvT shows otherwise. Not to mention these maps aren't very good ZvT. However, GGplay's best chance is to kill off Flash before his macro kicks in.
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[X]Ken_D
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States4650 Posts
September 29 2008 10:32 GMT
#282
I was suprise seeing July doing an allin in sudden death matchup. I thought his zvp and the zerg trend has improved enough to beat Bisu straightup. I guess July wasn't confident in his own skill to beat Bisu in a long game.

Hopefully Bisu will finally win an OSL title.
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Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
September 29 2008 10:37 GMT
#283
I think Bisu sort of forced July to do the all in with his well defended choke. Unless you are talking about the 9-pool opening to begin with.
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disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-29 11:37:13
September 29 2008 11:37 GMT
#284
just an observation- in both game Bisu played rather safe and passive and let his opponents make their first step. In the first game he pretty much predicted the hole scenario of the game and put down like 3 cannons at his choke even without scouting the 2 hatch hydra tech. In game 2 much was way to...dunno nervous perhaps and went for an attack without scouting with an obs first, so he pretty much didnt knew what bisu was having. The way the Revolutionist played the games reminds me of Flash
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KlaCkoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1661 Posts
September 29 2008 14:37 GMT
#285
On September 29 2008 19:32 [X]Ken_D wrote:
I was suprise seeing July doing an allin in sudden death matchup. I thought his zvp and the zerg trend has improved enough to beat Bisu straightup. I guess July wasn't confident in his own skill to beat Bisu in a long game.

Hopefully Bisu will finally win an OSL title.

I am pretty sure it has nothing at all to do with julys confidence, on the contrary his confidence in big macro zvps should be great considering his track record in games like that.
I think he plays the game the way he does because he enjoys it, there is a reason why he has won 3 OSLs over such a long time frame. And I would guess that is because he still thinks it is a whole lot of fun to micro zerglings.
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Profile Joined April 2007
Stockholm4641 Posts
September 29 2008 15:08 GMT
#286
On September 29 2008 19:32 [X]Ken_D wrote:
I was suprise seeing July doing an allin in sudden death matchup. I thought his zvp and the zerg trend has improved enough to beat Bisu straightup. I guess July wasn't confident in his own skill to beat Bisu in a long game.

Hopefully Bisu will finally win an OSL title.

Has July ever beat Bisu without doing some kind of allin/hydra break?
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Naib
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Hungary4844 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-29 15:17:12
September 29 2008 15:14 GMT
#287
I'm a dumbfuck.

And I fail.

Edit #n: uhh, I guess this post kinda looks bad here so I should post something contributing...

I really hope (P)Bisu can win against (P)Stork now in the Ro8, it's been forever that I kept sticking to him, he really, really, really should come back now! It's your time Kim Taek Yong!
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amorpheus
Profile Joined May 2007
Bulgaria2144 Posts
September 29 2008 19:47 GMT
#288
On September 29 2008 04:15 GinNtoniC wrote:
Everyone calling out a complete rape from Flash vs GGplay must already have forgotten about the way the odds were stacked when Flash went up against Luxury last OSL.

How did that end?
Say again?
0-2?

edit: Remember, this is the guy who brought you one of the best OSL Finals in memory, crowned with his game 5 against Iris.
Don't diss GGplay just yet!


The bad thing is that ggplay's been pretty bad lately.
To beat Flash you need much more than this.
Don't mess out Luxury who had (and still has) a pretty solid and one of the strongest zvt around.
Ggplay's zvt was good and now is no more than mediocre.
Flash is still top notch player with a deadly tvz.

The result is pretty clear - ggplay will be smashed like a bug.
Actually I'd like him winning but I simply dont see it happening.
Loveletter
Profile Joined November 2006
United States543 Posts
September 29 2008 20:07 GMT
#289
Wow Bisu has won a game vs a Zerg... That hasn't happaned a lot lately Hope we gets a bit further in his groups then before...
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thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
September 29 2008 22:41 GMT
#290
On September 29 2008 20:37 disciple wrote:
just an observation- in both game Bisu played rather safe and passive and let his opponents make their first step. In the first game he pretty much predicted the hole scenario of the game and put down like 3 cannons at his choke even without scouting the 2 hatch hydra tech. In game 2 much was way to...dunno nervous perhaps and went for an attack without scouting with an obs first, so he pretty much didnt knew what bisu was having. The way the Revolutionist played the games reminds me of Flash


Actually, it's interesting, because against Much Bisu went 3 gate goon/reaver, as opposed to the 2 gate goon/reaver. I don't know whether he chose to throw that gate down blindly or what but he won because of his unusual b/o choice.
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