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#1 Haran has 25% win vs P, and no individual league success. BackHo, despite being hated by nearly everyone on TL, is in the semifinals of the OSL and is practicing vs Zerg like a madman for his upcoming match against July. He should take this with ease.
#2 This game will be closer than people think imo. Flash has looked very human lately, going 5-5 in his last ten games with a recent loss to Ruby on this map. I still give the edge to the little monster, but fOrGG seems to be pretty hot right now, with momentum that flash might be losing.
#3 Man, if you thought the Lecaf 2v2 team was bad in the 200 other games that they lost, I cant imagine how they are gonna look vs the godly reach/yellow team of manliness. Another 2v2 autoloss for Lecaf.
#4 Jaedong is a better zerg player than 815. This should be an easier pick, but I nearly gave it to 815 simply because the map is Blue Storm. 815 has no individual league commitments to practice for and he is the fucking god of blue storm. He has sniped so many people on this map in proleauge (including Jaedong previously!) that it is hard not to give it to him. However, i simply cannot bet against Jaedong in a ZvZ at his current ridicolous near-80% win in the matchup, so I predict a win for him.
#5 I think this match is very likely to go to the ACE, and i'm predicting HiyA from Lecaf and probably Flash from KTF.
Results:
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BackHo < HARAN (Thank you stork for fucking ruining andromeda PvZ)
FORGG > Flash (Oh ho upset)
Lecaf < KTF (Oh ho not an upset at all)
JAEDONG > 815 (Coming on to 80% now)
HiyA < FLASH (Flash redeems himself and sends Lecaf to 5th place)
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Lecaf had better bring their best game, or they might be out of the postseason altogether.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
imma picking forgg to "cleanse" flash hence lecaf taking it in 4
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My vote goes to Lecaf. They must win this to keep up in the top.
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I think it will hinge a LOT on Jaedong.
I am 99% certain that BackHo can crush Haran given their skill difference and the fact that BackHo is already practicing for vs July, however their 2v2 is an autoloss and since fOrGG vs Flash favors Flash........ its gonna come down to Jaedong vs 815.
If Jaedong wins and takes it to ace, I actually think Lecaf will take it. HiyA is a monster in ace matches, its obvious he practices the ace map all week knowing he is gonna be picked as ace if it comes down to it. I'm pretty sure he can take out Flash if it comes down to it.
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Lets go Backho! I'd love this dude even more if he would just get a different haircut....
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anyone know the stream for this game?, i dunno, i think Flash (70% TvT) will beat Forgg (40% TvT) simply cause his TvT is his best matchup and Forgg sucks at it. Same goes for JD even though both players have been semi-slumping recently, although JD has more than redeemed himself in my book for beating Hwasin. In the Ace, ... I would LOVE to see Flash vs Jaedong rivalry rematch, that'd be like the match of the year.
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my prediction:
backho<haran (i dont know why i think this, not because i am a ktf fan, but gut instinct)
forgg>flash (i think flash is just a kid and his spirit is crushed)lecaf>ktf (i really dont know why, but i think bad luck will give lecaf the win)
jaedong>815 (jaedong is the obvious better player even though 815 beat him previously and 815 is the blue storm beast)
3:1 lecaf
my dream:
backho<haran
forgg<flash
lecaf<ktf
KTF OWNS
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On July 01 2008 06:54 Plexa wrote:
imma picking forgg to "cleanse" flash hence lecaf taking it in 4
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3-1 Lecaf > KTF
Only loss from Flash
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Good lineups for KTF, particularly catching forgg in his weakest matchup as well as allowing 815 a sniping chance on Blue Storm. Nevertheless, Lecaf's lineup can easily take this to an ace.
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If 815 or Haran can snipe a match, KTF should take this in 4. If not, this match goes to Ace. And KTF better be sending out Flash. I'd probably end up breaking something if they send out Hery again.
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Atrioc, I love your OPs. Very nice looking. I have to agree with your predictions, but that 815 vs JD game makes me nervous for JD. I hope your prediction winds up right.
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On July 01 2008 13:21 CDRdude wrote:
Atrioc, I love your OPs. Very nice looking. I have to agree with your predictions, but that 815 vs JD game makes me nervous for JD. I hope your prediction winds up right.
Thanks
And yeah i'm nervous for him also. I'm really hoping he takes it (and his next couple ZvZ) so he gets that rarely seen 80% win.
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I expect Lucifer or rA for KTF's ace. Good for the map and Flash is very clearly getting exhausted from playing so many matches, so they won't play him twice.
edit: that's not Troy, is it? I'm an idiot.
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xO Predictions~
BackHo, fOrGG, Reach & YellOw, 815...and then a Nal_rA versus Lomo ace match~! With rA winning it 3-2 for KTF. <3
I'll be sad if Lecaf wins 3-0... =(
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title should be July.
ktf faith
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On July 01 2008 14:12 o[twist] wrote:
I expect Lucifer or rA for KTF's ace. Good for the map and Flash is very clearly getting exhausted from playing so many matches, so they won't play him twice.
edit: that's not Troy, is it? I'm an idiot.
I really doubt they will send ra. im a huge ra fan, but his prime has peaked long ago
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Haran < BackHo
Flash > Forgg
Manlyness > Lecaf
815 > JD
Remember the match where Atrioc gave jd a shiny gold crown and said he cant lose, well i think its gonna be one of those matches, bluestorm is 815 hevan
if it goes to ace it'll be lucifer > hiya
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On July 01 2008 06:57 Atrioc wrote:
HiyA is a monster in ace matches, its obvious he practices the ace map all week knowing he is gonna be picked as ace if it comes down to it. I'm pretty sure he can take out Flash if it comes down to it.
Flash took down hiya in utter rape in the gsl like two weeks ago, flash is a monster tvt and if it dose come down to it i think he'll rape
Oh and flash's last 10 tvt's have been 9 wins and 1 loss which was to ruby
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I predict KTF wins because Lomo is not playing.
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On July 01 2008 14:50 Scaramanga wrote:
Remember the match where Atrioc gave jd a shiny gold crown and said he cant lose
NO BECAUSE IT NEVER HAPPENED
On July 01 2008 14:53 Scaramanga wrote:
Flash took down hiya in utter rape in the gsl like two weeks ago, flash is a monster tvt and if it dose come down to it i think he'll rape
Oh and flash's last 10 tvt's have been 9 wins and 1 loss which was to ruby
good point i forgot about hiya getting RAPED in gsi
i still think they will send out hiya though
he's pretty good on colosseum and is their obvious dedicated ace match guy, but yeah hes gonna have a tougher time than i thought if they send out flash.
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On July 01 2008 15:28 Atrioc wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2008 14:50 Scaramanga wrote:
Remember the match where Atrioc gave jd a shiny gold crown and said he cant lose NO BECAUSE IT NEVER HAPPENEDShow nested quote +On July 01 2008 14:53 Scaramanga wrote:
Flash took down hiya in utter rape in the gsl like two weeks ago, flash is a monster tvt and if it dose come down to it i think he'll rape
Oh and flash's last 10 tvt's have been 9 wins and 1 loss which was to ruby good point i forgot about hiya getting RAPED in gsi i still think they will send out hiya though he's pretty good on colosseum and is their obvious dedicated ace match guy, but yeah hes gonna have a tougher time than i thought if they send out flash.
LOLOLOLOL, nah it should get to ace beacuse i dont see flash losing his second match, hes been practising tvt since he got beaten by lux so i think he'll be prepaired enough
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I think it is a bad idea to have backho playing PvZ before he has to play july .... just my opinion but .... He is already going to get raped .....
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Flash will most likely take his mach , but you never know ForGG is practiseing mostly TvT nowadays as his next opponent in the MSL is a terran too . I'm thinking if it turns in to a macro war ForGG will take it because he is very strong macro wise ...
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On July 01 2008 17:13 AttackZerg wrote:
I think it is a bad idea to have backho playing PvZ before he has to play july .... just my opinion but .... He is already going to get raped .....
when they put backho they didnt know what match up he ll play. However they need their best line against KTF
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On July 01 2008 17:14 raga4ka wrote:
Flash will most likely take his mach , but you never know ForGG is practiseing mostly TvT nowadays as his next opponent in the MSL is a terran too . I'm thinking if it turns in to a macro war ForGG will take it because he is very strong macro wise ...
Flash is a macro beasttttttt, i think if it gets down to macro flash > forgg
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Flash will play if there is an ace.
He's been playing colloseum all year as his map.
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I think Backho is going to surprise us all vs. Zerg. I have a feeling he is the most under-estimated person in KeSPA right now.
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Backho's PvZ is probably the only matchup he hasn't done something with, however. I'm curious to see how he goes.
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yaoyuan not working!
how g a y !
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Well, they've decided to skip the formalities and just have a Jaedong/Flash Bo5 tonight.
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why does daum ask me to download codecs every time i open it?
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BACKHO CHANGED HIS HAIR CUT YESSSSSS HE LOOKS SO MUCH LESS RETARDED. ACTUALLY LOOKS GOOD
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some1 make a thread for skt1 vs mbc :O
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YES yy working
much better than watching boxer play buffering every 3 seconds
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On July 01 2008 14:48 thestool91 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2008 14:12 o[twist] wrote:
I expect Lucifer or rA for KTF's ace. Good for the map and Flash is very clearly getting exhausted from playing so many matches, so they won't play him twice.
edit: that's not Troy, is it? I'm an idiot. I really doubt they will send ra. im a huge ra fan, but his prime has peaked long ago
go die heretic. D:
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any thoughts on backho's new hair do?
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oh shit.
tvants lagging big time for me
12 hatch from Haran
FE from backho
yawn.
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oh. i was getting excited about that pylon in haran's nat.
i thought it was gonna be some cheese. =/
so it was actually 12 pool due to pylon block.
6 lings out for haran.
LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAG
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OH SHIT
4 OF HARAN'S LINGS GET PAST THE BLOCK AND IS IN BACKHO'S MAIN
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backho is bleeding probes like crazy
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haran harrassing backho's gas probes. sees the stargate backho's building
surprisingly, lair for haran. no den in sight.
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holy fuck. haran is harrassing with those 3 lings like crazy.
oh. there's the den. i blame lag. D:
robo for backho. i'm assuming sair/reaver
spire almost done for haran.
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spire done for haran. has 3 mining bases up.
scourge out for haran. narrowly misses a passing sair.
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holy fuck.
why can't i multitask like that? =/
(currently showing first person view of haran)
backho getting a 3rd up.
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haran getting a 3rd expo at the 11 oclock.
killing the neutral buildings.
haran sees ~ 5 corsairs due to burrowed ling.
haran has burrowed lings in a lot of places.
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haran is doing really good :D GO ZERG POWER :D
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lol haran doin the hydralisk burrow trap
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this map sucks. so many overly long games on it
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haran's 4th up. has burrowed hydras nearby.
OH FUCK. HARAN DOESN'T UNBURROW THE HYDRAS UNTIL REAVER ALREADY DROPPED. kills most of the drones at the 4th, but not a whole lot else
backho getting a 4th at the 5 oclock.
haran getting queen nest.
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OH FUCK. HARAN WAS GOING FOR A DOOM DROP, BUT IT GETS SCOUTED BY THE SAIRS.
... at least, i think it's a doom drop. it never actually showed anything getting loaded into the cannons.
backho has another base up at the 12 expo
haran getting another expo at 11
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haran has another hydra trap ready for backho. backho doesn't go for it though.
that is a lot of reavers. D:
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DOOM DROP! DOOM DROP! DOOM DROP! GOING FOR THE 12 EXPO!
aw fuck. epic fail. haran retreats because of the cannons.
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lol dweb. this is like a non-gosu bisu jaedong
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lol. hydras get owned by web/reaver.
haran's 5th up.
getting a defiler mound up.
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what the.
haran is getting 2 mounds up.
backho getting another expo at 5
haran is gonna go for it. loading up shitload of hydras. 3cm the d and tries to sneak in there, but it gets scouted by fleet of sairs
fuck. epic fail. haran needs to prevent these expos, but backho's doing a great job protecting them.
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lol. suicidal hydra.
OH SHIT. HARAN HAS NO ANTI AIR IN BASE. SAIRS KILLS A TON OF OVIES.
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HARAN GOING FOR THE 5 MAIN WITH HYDRAS AND LOADED SHIT. PLAGUE FLYING EVERYWHERE
attack fails though.
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lol. haran losing a ton of ovies.
money's piling high for haran.
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tons and tons of cannons rebuilding for backho in 5.
OH SHIT. LIKE, 4 STARGATES GOING UP FOR BACKHO. CARRIER TIME. HOLY SHIT.
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Nice life reporst  keep it up .
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tru dat Traced, tru dat. however i think backho is doing an alright imitation of bisu's build
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lurkers attacking the gateways at 5.
OH FUCK. 6 STARGATE CARRIER PVZ.
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Kentor
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i think backho need carriers, then DA
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backho should win this soon
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haran still losing a ton of ovies.
nice plague over the sairs though.
i don't think haran knows that backho's getting carriers. :O
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oh shit my stream died and i see defilers all up in jangbi's base, killing his stargates
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Kentor
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haha this is andromeda PvZ guys!
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haran attacks backho's nat but immediately retreat
DROPS A WHOLE SHITLOAD OF LINGS TO THE ELEVATED PLACE. KILLING THE STARGATES.
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wtf hes gonna give it up to 5 lings?
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lol backho just lost like 10 corsairs -.-
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3 stargates survive. nope. defilers coming and probably gonna kills the stargates.
jk. hero templar to the rescue. 2 stargates go down though. as does the temps archive.
carriers moving out D:
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holy fuck. sair massacre.
backho rebuiliding his shit at 5 main.
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backho plays pathethic, july should have no problems..
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lol ridiculous game... -_-
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backho getting expo at 6 o clock.
holy fuck. backho's getting 7 stargates at his new main.
WHAT THE FUCK? WHEN DID IMBALISKS COME OUT?
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backho taking 6 island. lost his entire base in the northeast
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Backho is wise to keep doing his Overlord strikes... this is something Bisu USE to do and is now lacking in his pvz
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ATTACKING THE 5 NAT.
retreats though due to reaver and carrier gayness.
haran killing everything at 1.
holy fuck. haran killed all probes at 5 nat with 2 lurkers.
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greater spire going up.
come on haran. end this shit.
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Haran learning from Jaedong's mistakes. GOD BLESS HIM
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LOL ENSNARE + PLAGUE + HYDRAS = DEAD 15 CORSAIRS LOLOLOL
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what the fuck haran. still losing a ton of ovies.
lol hero reaver killing all the lurkers that were in the 5 main.
shuttle at 3 finds another hatchery there. haran's not mining though.
haran barely mining at 9
PLAGUE GOES OVER THE CARRIERS.
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Jaedong is saying "Oh, so that's how u counter this late game toss.... shit i wish i woulda figured it out"
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
he used the queen better than jaedong!
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On July 01 2008 19:01 Exhale85 wrote:
Backho is wise to keep doing his Overlord strikes... this is something Bisu USE to do and is now lacking in his pvz
it's easy to do when haran leaves 10 in the middle of the map unprotected, jesus
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devourers out
PLAGUE GOES OVER THE CORSAIRS
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ENSNARE GOES OVER THE SAIRS.
ALL OF BACKHO'S SAIRS DIE.
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lol. haran has a ton of idle units like everywhere on the map.
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Haran showing better late game Z than Jaedong in this matchup
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backho has like 5 carriers. going for the 3 o clock but swarm goes over shit.
don't affect much though carriers kill sunken. backho drops reavers.
devourers going to rape carrier gayness :D
OH FUCK. 2 CARRIERS ALREADY GO DOWN.
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3 oclock survives. backho has alot of carrier reinforcement.
lol. haran parasites one of the carriers. nice move
ton of scourges back at home for haran. carriers raping shit though
HERE COME THE SCOURGES HERE COME THE SCOURGES!
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aw. didn't rape enough shit though
PLAGUE GOES OVER THE CARRIERS AGAIN!
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oh fuck. the camera just zoomed into backho. you know what that means.
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Backho is terrible, rofl.
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On July 01 2008 19:08 goldenkrnboi wrote:
oh fuck. the camera just zoomed into backho. you know what that means.
ah...the samurai-shot
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10,000 minerals for Haran and 7500 gas. WOW
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fuck. i had to go downstairs. missed a lot of shit.
that. is a shitload of sairs and carriers.
it seems as though haran dropped imbalisks onto the 6 expo and raped everything.
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lol there's no ovies there though. carriers fucking rape the shit out of the imbalisks.
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lol. haran desperate mining.
lol. sair tried to dance with 2 scourges. fail.
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Kentor
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mael + storm those fuckin devourers please
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if i was backho i'd throw in an arbiter or 2
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fuckfuckfuck.
carriers raping shit.
WHAT THE FUCK HARAN. SAVE YOUR FUCKING DRONES.
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lol like 12 1hp 1shield carriers
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cmon backho - switch to scouts !!!
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haran drops onto 6 again. rapes everything. again.
fuckc haran.
what are you doing.
ENSNARE GOES OVER TONS OF SHIT. TONS OF DEVOURERES FOR HARAN.
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When will the game be over thank you and who is winning at this point ?
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too much sairs though. sair gayness.
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huge difference in minerals....
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if this keeps up, haran will eventually win. The problem is, he probably wont keep up because he will be bankrupt very soon. 
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match is like a high school handjob
i mean haran doesn't even run his hydralisks from the middle of storms
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Kentor
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backho needs to mass mind control
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i really can't tell. COME ON HARAN RAPE THE SHIT OUT OF THOSE CARRIERS.
MUTAS COME WITH DEVOURERS.
can't kill enough though. fucking carriers.
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this is gg right here. Backho won't have enough minerals to replace his army
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backho barely has any minerals at all lol
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GOGOGO
PLAGUE OVER REAVER AND 3 OCLOCK CANNONS.
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haran nearly mined out.
WTF. WHERE DID ALL THOSE DEVOURERS COME FROM.
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backho should type 'show me the money' thats his only chance
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camerashot on backho who looks like ".... meh"
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GOSU MOVE. HARAN USES A MUTA TO ABSORB CANNON FIRE WHILE CASTING SWARM AND GETTING UNITS IN.
RAPES THE NEXUS.
DEVOURERS MOVING OUT ENSNARE OVER SAIRS.
SHITLOAD OF DEVOURERS KILLING SHIT.
OH NO. TEMPLAR GAYNESS SAVES BACKHO
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lol haran dropped into 6 AGAIN.
with only 4 hydras though. cannons finish them off quickly
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LOL DESPERATION MINING.
there's still some minerals left at 1 oclock min only. haran using that to his advantage.
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backho can't win, he should just gg..
he's struggling getting any minerals at all while haran is at like 7500 minerals and shitload of gas
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nice storm dodging by haran.
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omg why does haran keeping his guys there to get stormed
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fuck. haran doesn't need to desperate mine. he has like over 7000 in his bank.
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haran. he just needs to kill those fucking carriers and it should be gg
haran building hatchery at 3.
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Is BackHo's 'G' key broken?
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So, PvZ on Andromeda = really long game now...
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oh fuck.
archons have arrived
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
this won't end until building elim. fucking andromeda pvz
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900th drop going into 6 o clock... getting taken out by haran for the 50th time probably
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storm rapes shit. haran takes out the shuttle though. OH FUCK OH FUCK. DOOM DROP ON 6.
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lol. backho's like "we've been through this already. i don't give a fuck anymore."
6 goes down
~9-10 carriers
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lol. backho has to kill his gateway cause it was blocking his archons.
haran just parasiting shit.
backho going for 3 expansion
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loool like 50 d-web stacks, looks like madness
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PLAGUE OVER LIKE 4 CARRIERS AND ARCHON
fuck. all of haran's devourers are just chilling at 6 o clock.
3 hatachery down.
lol haran's drone is trying to build a hatchery at 6, but is blocked by 2 ultralisks and a hydra. he doens't even realize this.
scourges rape a carrier.
wow. massive web over lurkers.
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i cant believe this. backho might outlast him
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haran is going to win. Backho probably cant even make a fukin high templar without seeing the "not enough minerals"
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backho should gg, and do the same 3 times against july :D
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haran still doesn't realize his trapped drone. haran trying to finish backho's army
ENSNARE GOES OVER THE CARRIERS
2 CARRIERS GO DOWN.
lol. finally haran realizes that he has no hatcheries at 6
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haran only has 1 K in minerals left... CRAZY. But Backho is out as well
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haran taking over the expo at 6 with a hatchery too now.. backho doesnt have any exp with minerals now I think
no drones there yet though... pretty useless
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PLAGUE OVER CARRIERS. HARAN MIGHT BE ABLE TO FINISH THIS.
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haran needs to stop wasting shit. and realize that his 6 expo is done.
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rebuilding at 3.
building drones at 6.
this is gg. backho only has 3 carriers left.
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oh wow, backho has ONE mineralpatch left. haran has two full mining expos
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2 CARRIERS GO DOWN. ONLY ONE REMAINS AND IT'S LOW ON HEALTH.
... wtf. where did those other 4 carriers come from.
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backho don't even have money for interceptors :&
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that was a great effort from backho. GG
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fuck its like ggplay vs stork except the roles are reversed
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Haran : 'Sry, backho, but THERE IS NO COW LEVEL'
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now we shall hope this isnt another rock vs chalrenge
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lol. haran's lip micro.
he's just like. wtf backho.
meanwhile, tons of scourges. being grouped. i'm assuming so that haran can 1click2click3click the carriers. DEVOURERS TAKE OUT A SHUTTLE. I'M ASSUMING IT HAD TEMPLARS IN THEM.
all haran really needs to do is kill the interceptors. backho can't build any more.
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AHH WHY WONT THIS END, sair reaver everytime, everytime it's not bisu, this happens.
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where the fuck are these templars coming from. i thought he didn't even have enough for interceptors?
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haran getting smart and building nydus canal at 6.
tons and tons and tons of scourges with like 7 devourers in mid.
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I dunno wtf backho is doing now really
he has zero minerals, cant build shit, he's just sitting in his base with a couple of templars, carriers and sairs
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
did he not research spawn broodling?
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woah. where did that plague come from. all of his sairs got plagued somehow.
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
backho is crying or something. fucking gg already
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backho is banking on a 20 perfect storms in a row
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1 sair down. dodges a vital storm.
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LOL, backho wiping his face with both his hands, he isnt even playing anymore
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WHERE THE FUCK ARE THESE TEMPLARS COMING FROM?
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backho is probably waiting for haran to faint or something
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seriously backho. just gg. please.
i wanna play some starcraft before morning comes.
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7000 minerals vs 0 minerals, and still backho wont give up
Haran gathering all his units for a massive attack
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this is ggplay vs. stork all over again. except it's airbattles now
SCOURGE ARE RAPING THE SAIRS. ONLY 1 SAIR REMAINS. HOLY SHIT. HOLY SHIT.
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backho stop wasting time, U CANT WIN damn it..
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tons of larvae morphing. don't know what for. i'm assuming lings.
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lol
stay in there buddy like chalrenge did
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Kentor
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20 perfect storms. you said it man
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i was right.
haran attacking the 5 nat. tons of storms going up though.
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Backho storming harans army defending his nonexistant faggot base
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haran's just like i don't give a fuck. i'm just gonna make more lings with my 6000+ mins. LOL
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spawn all those templars. jesus
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lol. haran now wasting lings.
fucking templars. oh shit. 1 devourer left for backho.
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speaking of spawn, where did his queens go?
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life saving temps here haha
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lol. haran now picking up the units he left behind at the 6 expo like 20 minutes ago.
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haran raping the 5 main. draws the temps away from the nat.
haran should have attacked with that diversion.
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lol. using storm to pick off a lone defiler.
most of the temps are dead now, 3 carriers left for backho.
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Please KeSPA ref, don't call this off!
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OMG should've watched this game! Crazy  But damn could really seem KTF might sweep Lecaf 3-0 if they don't pull some magic before Jaedong gets a chance to play...
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gg yo.
gg yo.
fuck i hate andromeda
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OMG. About fucking time. Hour long game
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Backho knows that now KTF probably won 3:0
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haran mined out 3. holy shit.
ultralisk can't get out due to stargates. lol.
haran dropping more shit at the ledge.
DRONES
HOLY SHIT.
NO WAY. DRONES? HE'S NOT. PLANNING TO.
oh. he's not. he's using them for defiler food. smart.
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Well, at least KTF benefits at the end.
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haran going for the kill. finally.
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backho typing out "zizi yO" it's over!
GG
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FUCKING FINALLY BACKHO.
he's crying. =/
1:0 KTF
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andromeda is actually the best map this season, it doesn't make any of the MU vastly imba
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lol haran.
"ow. hour and a half long pvz fucking killed my ears."
KTF bench all pumped now. lol
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lol. where did the ktf bench go?
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lecaf coach being contemplative. or sleeping. i can't tell.
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ggplay vs. stork minus the epicness
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play of the game = haran's harrasment with the 4 lings he sneaked past the wallin
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holy fuck. haran's ling harrasment is golden.
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lol. epic epic epic july vs. backho hype video.
i just hope it's nothing like right now though.
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Backho looks absoutely exhausted.
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LOL. THAT CARD COMMERCIAL WAS FUNNY.
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On July 01 2008 19:45 goldenkrnboi wrote:
holy fuck. haran's ling harrasment is golden.
Yeah it was impressive. How is Backho gonna take on July? Eh, I'm rooting for July anyway.
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eh. whatever. i'm gonna go play starcraft.
i'm predicting ktf in 3 like i did on page 2.
if i'm not back before the match ends, then, uh. sorry.
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ForGG is going to have to pull out all the stops if he wants Lecaf to make it to Ace, since 2v2 is pretty much an auto-loss for them.
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that chef commercial is weird.
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aw fuuuuuck. forgg vs. flash gonna start soon. i wanna play starcraft though :<
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On July 01 2008 19:50 GTR-2-Go wrote:
that chef commercial is weird.
i recognized the guy though. :D
the buff dude from coffee prince. :D
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Back to old haircut for flash it seems, no more schoolgirl braids
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fuck it. i'm playing starcraft.
sorry guys. =/ but that's why i'm staying up in the first place.
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finally ultimate weapon has arrived.
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Flash praying for a win it seems
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forGG cheese or something to give Lecaf a slight chance damnit...
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flash should take this
GO FLASH
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On July 01 2008 19:52 Vasoline73 wrote:
Flash praying for a win it seems
He did get #1 all-time KeSPA right? I wonder if he's a bit lacking in motivation now. Could be an explanation of his mortality of late.
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So epic, that took so long
now flash and ktfs 2v2 will finish the night
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Kentor
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flash's hair is back to normals
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Flash = Blue
ForGG = White
GG!
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14cc for flash
normal play for forgg
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shit
forgg scouting correctly
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forgg has both tanks and wraiths first somehow
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looking bad for flash, 2 tank + bunker making a hole in flash's nat
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Kentor
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forgg is good. im tellings you!
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Flash is reading ForGG like a book though, pretty sick game sense from this kid
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meh, bad flash
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Flash needs to mix up his game more. Opponents used to be afraid of getting cheesed, now they know Flash is going to macro macro macro.. :/
Makes it easier to predict him
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lucky scouting that is all
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Good think for Flash atleast he GGed quick now on to the 2v2
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Forgg showing why his TvP sense can be extended to his TvT there. : )
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flash isn't looking too devastated though, maybe he has some tricks up his sleeve for his fight vs Lomo in msl
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He didnt scout silly flash, but if it gets to ace i hope he comes out and rapes who ever he plays
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whaa.....Flash is going to lose to Lomo..
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Wow just looking at the PL standings is Lecaf out if they loose against KTF??
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nah, but whatever team loses tonight will have to be really lucky (teams around them losing) to make it to the playoffs
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On July 01 2008 20:22 Vivi57 wrote:
nah, but whatever team loses tonight will have to be really lucky (teams around them losing) to make it to the playoffs
What, ktf and lecaf are both top 4, im confused?
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On July 01 2008 20:24 Scaramanga wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2008 20:22 Vivi57 wrote:
nah, but whatever team loses tonight will have to be really lucky (teams around them losing) to make it to the playoffs What, ktf and lecaf are both top 4, im confused?
if ktf loses, they'll be 7th
if lecaf loses, they'll be 6th
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On July 01 2008 20:16 SilverSkyLark wrote:
whaa.....Flash is going to lose to Lomo..
if u base this on this game -> fail
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On July 01 2008 20:26 raga4ka wrote:
Has the 2v2 started ?
yeah looking good for reach and yellow
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On July 01 2008 20:26 raga4ka wrote:
Has the 2v2 started ?
It's already over, KTF wins
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lol i came back and reach/yellow were laughing hi fiving their team mates
what happened?
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FUCK STREAM DIES JUST BEFORE 2V2 T_T.
Now i missed some manly action...
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On July 01 2008 20:29 Scaramanga wrote:
lol i came back and reach/yellow were laughing hi fiving their team mates
what happened?
they won?
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So it would come down to JD versus 815 ...ZvZ is so unpredictable especially JD's ZvZ versus 815 on Blue storm JD should win thought
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Okay, that Ever OSL ad was PIMP.
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On July 01 2008 20:38 chenkai wrote:
wat the result now?
lecaf 1 : 2 KTF
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Someone life report please 
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Damn, YY was flawless streaming for the first hour and a half.
Now I gotta watch from some shitty channel on TVants.
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Mirror!
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who is who (missed the screen at start) !?
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still mirrored
cmon 815, you can outmicro jaedong
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lol exact same to the number of zerglings
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both of their spires finish basically exactly at the same time
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wtf just happened
nothing then jaedong randomly has more mutas
ooh ceremony from jaedong
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fucking epic muta micro by JD
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Jaedong really is one of a kind.
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Let's hope the ACE isn't another mirror
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hiya vs flash would be epic because flash would ez win
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Exact mirror build but JDs muta MICRO! :O OMG
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wut a fucking rape by jaedong wow
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FLASH vs JAEDONG PLZ !!!!
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what's the results? Flashy op's are bad with no updates t.t.
I see the first game was very long.
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On July 01 2008 20:53 Camlito wrote:
what's the results? Flashy op's are bad with no updates t.t.
I see the first game was very long.
haran > backho
flash < forgg
KTF > Lecaf
815 < Jaedong
Ace left
now i look like a fool
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Results
+ Show Spoiler +
Haran > Backho
forGG > Flash
Yellow/Reach > Lecaf
JD > 815
2:2
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flash owned hiya in their games in the GSL so i think he can own him here aswell
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aw. shit.
oh well.
i'm in time for ace 
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Oh boy no JD vs. Flash But fuck it as long as Hiya takes the ACE for Lecaf Pride!
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i thought i saw flash. :O
is flash ace?
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On July 01 2008 20:56 goldenkrnboi wrote:
i thought i saw flash. :O
is flash ace?
yep flash is ace
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On July 01 2008 20:57 Sanity. wrote:
why did they choose hiya
hes 6-1 on the map
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On July 01 2008 20:58 Pepsicolaone wrote:hes 6-1 on the map
ah i see thanks
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does zerg really have such a disadvantage on this map?
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yep
Edit: response to "Hiya vs Flash?"
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What disadvantage JD raped Hwasin on this map and was looking almost godly ...
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lol at the commentator
"ah if only he did this. but jaedong is jaedong"
as jaedong is squirming in his seat.
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FLASH CMON WIN THIS GET KTF INTO PLAYOFFS WINWINWIN
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On July 01 2008 21:00 InDaHouse wrote:
I hope HiyA takes this
Indeed, I'm sure the Lecaf coaches and HiyA have something prepared to try to take on Flash this time... and maybe Flash will decide to not scout early enough again ;(
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On July 01 2008 20:59 traced wrote:
does zerg really have such a disadvantage on this map?
This season's map pool SUCKS for zergs.
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Can someone life report please what is happening ?
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nothing at the moment. getting ready for ace match.
at least, for my stream that's the case.
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lee young ho is getting the earmuffs on.
ace match gonna begin soon.
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oh fuck.
vivi, you live report.
my stream is way behind.
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block started for hiya
depot by cc for flash
flash 14cc
hiya rax + gas
flash scouting hiya first
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14cc scouted
no block for flash
2port for hiya
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Yes plz work this time too Starports!
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keep reports coming buddy ^ ^
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delayed flash's block
vult killed by rines
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flash is going to lose again!
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armory going up for flash
delayed, but up now
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no wratith defense, losing lots of scvs
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hiya taking his nat now
wraiths killing scvs
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wraiths snipe flash's tank
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Damn thought Hiya might've killed Flash with Wraiths again but no...
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flash moving out now, but comes back
hiya taking his third
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Another 14CC from Flash? Let's see if he kicks into crazy teched up macro mode and rolls HiyA for the win, or if HiyA can put him down before that happens.
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flash scans hiya's finished third and starts his
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control towers on hiya's starports
flash taking his 4th as well
HEAVY macro game
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4 dropships for hiya
rax scouts it
1 taken out by flash's army
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Nice/Lucky scout to take out a dropship by Flash.
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good scans predict dropship movement
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flash scans the second dropship attempt
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mini contain broken, but 2 dropships taken out
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C'mon Hiya push him all the way back!
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hahahha lecaf holding hands
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LOL, lecaf team sitting together and holding hands!
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hiya moving out with a MASSIVE tank army
flash defending nicely
hiya has no idea flash has a 4th
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Lol Lecaf players holding hand JD is so cute
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Hiya you dumb fuck to loose dropships like that! Argh
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both taking another corner of the map
flash coming out ahead every battle
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6 gas flash vs 3 gas hiya
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On July 01 2008 21:24 Vivi57 wrote:
wait is that flash at 7?
yeah he is
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Fuck it should've sent JD... But still c'mon Hiya! Lecaf Honour. plz
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fwarp fwarp fwarp.... reverse mermaid hiya.
omg hiya close ur mouth.
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On July 01 2008 21:24 Vivi57 wrote:
wait is that flash at 7?
Yes. Yes it is. Me and my friends couldn't believe it either.
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trading expos
very good for flash
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On July 01 2008 21:26 dinmsab wrote:fwarp fwarp fwarp.... reverse mermaid hiya. omg hiya close ur mouth.
lol it's like the more tense the game becomes the more his mouth opens
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scans keeping track of hiya's army well
hiya trying to take the whole 1
flash dropping 1
flash moving into hiya's main
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They should've beaten Flash with the early Wraith strategy but it failed and so is Hiya now...
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gg after hiya loses his army
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maybe he won't leave till he attacks with his scvs?
gg
KAY TEE EFF
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On July 01 2008 21:29 3nickma wrote:
They should've beaten Flash with the early Wraith strategy but it failed and so is Hiya now...
yeah what the hell. he killed 10-15 scvs and a tank
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what a motherfucking baller.
ktf wins 3:2
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after the wraiths stopped, it was just complete domination by flash in true flash style
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Well, Flash won for kayteeep this time.
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finally KTF beats Lecaf Oz. 14months!! they havent won against Lecaf Oz.
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Haha, i love flash when hes playing like a champ, it was over when flash like tripple expoed mid game and hiya didnt attack, GG KTF
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BackHo if just you had won too. Damn!
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FUCK OZ IS 5!
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1/2 ty ktf knew you could do it =)
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Lecaf Oz players holding hands was an epic moment hahahaha
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Damn why Hiya ACE almost all season ??? What the fuck happent with Anytime and JD being aces .Does map favor terrans so much ???? Why don't they send Anytime to snipe zergs and JD to snipe terrans .Anytime is on a freaking 10 games winning streak vs Zerg .And they are not even useing his potential although he sucks at the other 2 machups ...
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On July 01 2008 21:35 aev wrote:
KTFKTFKTFKTF FUCK YES
I concurr.
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On July 01 2008 21:41 raga4ka wrote:
Damn why Hiya ACE almost all season ??? What the fuck happent with Anytime and JD being aces .Does map favor terrans so much ???? Why don't they send Anytime to snipe zergs and JD to snipe terrans .Anytime is on a freaking 10 games winning streak vs Zerg .And they are not even useing his potential although he sucks at the other 2 machups ...
hiya had a very good record on this map. IIRC, this is only his second loss on this map.
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Pardon me for not remembering it properly but aren't we near the end of the regular PL season with the top 4 for playoffs? And if this is true is this really the last of Oz this time around?
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On July 01 2008 21:41 raga4ka wrote:
Damn why Hiya ACE almost all season ??? What the fuck happent with Anytime and JD being aces .Does map favor terrans so much ???? Why don't they send Anytime to snipe zergs and JD to snipe terrans .Anytime is on a freaking 10 games winning streak vs Zerg .And they are not even useing his potential although he sucks at the other 2 machups ...
Anytime's winning streak against zergs is useless because no sane manager would send zerg players in the first place.
We already saw what happened to Jaedong this season. His record against terrans this season SUCKS. This is what happens when zerg players (even a godlike one like Jaedong) are sent out to play on these maps. He can't snipe terrans when the maps aren't made for zerg players to snipe in the first place. His manager obviously thought Jaedong would overcome the map imbalance, but he couldn't.
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On July 01 2008 21:44 3nickma wrote:
Pardon me for not remembering it properly but aren't we near the end of the regular PL season with the top 4 for playoffs? And if this is true is this really the last of Oz this time around?
KTF is in 3rd place with one game remaining (against Samsung Khan).
STX and Lecaf are in 4th and 5th place respectively with two games remaining.
If STX and Lecaf win all their remaining matches, KTF will finish behind them no matter what.
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On July 01 2008 21:48 Letmelose wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2008 21:41 raga4ka wrote:
Damn why Hiya ACE almost all season ??? What the fuck happent with Anytime and JD being aces .Does map favor terrans so much ???? Why don't they send Anytime to snipe zergs and JD to snipe terrans .Anytime is on a freaking 10 games winning streak vs Zerg .And they are not even useing his potential although he sucks at the other 2 machups ... Anytime's winning streak against zergs is useless because no sane manager would send zerg players in the first place. We already saw what happened to Jaedong this season. His record against terrans this season SUCKS. This is what happens when zerg players (even a godlike one like Jaedong) are sent out to play on these maps. He can't snipe terrans when the maps aren't made for zerg players to snipe in the first place. His manager obviously thought Jaedong would overcome the map imbalance, but he couldn't.
How did he beat Hwasin on Collosium then ? I was talking about sending Anytime on Andromeda and not BackHO althought BackHO gave it his all it wasn't enough How is MSL so different from PL .It is a shame that a force such as Anytime is not doing well and not used at all ...
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HiyA might actually be Lecaf's best vT player. He's a master of TvT. Remember when he took out Mind in an ace game earlier in the season?
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On July 01 2008 21:55 Letmelose wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2008 21:44 3nickma wrote:
Pardon me for not remembering it properly but aren't we near the end of the regular PL season with the top 4 for playoffs? And if this is true is this really the last of Oz this time around? KTF is in 3rd place with one game remaining (against Samsung Khan). STX and Lecaf are in 4th and 5th place respectively with two games remaining. If STX and Lecaf win all their remaining matches, KTF will finish behind them no matter what.
Oh thank God I saw no more upcoming matches in the calender and thought it was the last and just freaked and paniced if Lecaf might have been out My bad but boy I sure hope so they pull themselves together so they can make the playoffs then.
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On July 01 2008 22:00 raga4ka wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2008 21:48 Letmelose wrote:On July 01 2008 21:41 raga4ka wrote:
Damn why Hiya ACE almost all season ??? What the fuck happent with Anytime and JD being aces .Does map favor terrans so much ???? Why don't they send Anytime to snipe zergs and JD to snipe terrans .Anytime is on a freaking 10 games winning streak vs Zerg .And they are not even useing his potential although he sucks at the other 2 machups ... Anytime's winning streak against zergs is useless because no sane manager would send zerg players in the first place. We already saw what happened to Jaedong this season. His record against terrans this season SUCKS. This is what happens when zerg players (even a godlike one like Jaedong) are sent out to play on these maps. He can't snipe terrans when the maps aren't made for zerg players to snipe in the first place. His manager obviously thought Jaedong would overcome the map imbalance, but he couldn't. How did he beat Hwasin on Collosium then ? I was talking about sending Anytime on Andromeda and not BackHO althought BackHO gave it his all it wasn't enough How is MSL so different from PL .It is a shame that a force such as Anytime is not doing well and not used at all ...
JD never loses Bo5s, but consistently loses Bo1s. Therefore, in the MSL where he can make up for map imbalance by playing mind-games he does fine, but in PL Bo1s it's different.
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On July 01 2008 21:55 Letmelose wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2008 21:44 3nickma wrote:
Pardon me for not remembering it properly but aren't we near the end of the regular PL season with the top 4 for playoffs? And if this is true is this really the last of Oz this time around? KTF is in 3rd place with one game remaining (against Samsung Khan). STX and Lecaf are in 4th and 5th place respectively with two games remaining. If STX and Lecaf win all their remaining matches, KTF will finish behind them no matter what.
That dosent sound right, lecaf played ktf tonight so ktf should have as many matches as lecaf so im pretty sure that ktf will make playoffs
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On July 01 2008 22:33 Scaramanga wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2008 21:55 Letmelose wrote:On July 01 2008 21:44 3nickma wrote:
Pardon me for not remembering it properly but aren't we near the end of the regular PL season with the top 4 for playoffs? And if this is true is this really the last of Oz this time around? KTF is in 3rd place with one game remaining (against Samsung Khan). STX and Lecaf are in 4th and 5th place respectively with two games remaining. If STX and Lecaf win all their remaining matches, KTF will finish behind them no matter what. That dosent sound right, lecaf played ktf tonight so ktf should have as many matches as lecaf so im pretty sure that ktf will make playoffs
Lecaf has one less match.
Look for yourself, this was the ranking after yesterday's matches:
| # | Team Name | Match | Pts | Games | % | Solo | 2v2 | Gain |
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| 1 | Samsung KHAN | 14-6 | +17 | 50-33 | 60.24 | 37-26 | 13-7 | 0 | | 2 | SK Telecom T1 | 13-6 | +13* | 48-34 | 58.54 | 39-24 | 9-10 | 0 | | 3 | Lecaf Oz | 12-7 | +5 | 40-35 | 53.33 | 33-23 | 7-12 | 0 | | 4 | KTF MagicNs | 12-8 | +10 | 45-35 | 56.25 | 35-25 | 10-10 | +1 | | 5 | STX SouL | 12-8 | +6 | 40-34 | 54.05 | 29-25 | 11-9 | -1 | | 6 | OnGameNet SPARKYZ | 11-8 | +5 | 39-34 | 53.42 | 30-24 | 9-10 | 0 | | 7 | WeMade FOX | 10-9 | +4 | 40-36 | 52.63 | 30-27 | 10-9 | +1 | | 8 | MBCGame HERO | 10-10 | +3 | 40-37 | 51.95 | 32-25 | 8-12 | -1 | | 9 | CJ Entus | 7-12 | -7 | 36-43 | 45.57 | 24-36 | 12-7 | 0 | | 10 | Hanbit Stars | 6-13 | -16 | 29-45 | 39.19 | 20-35 | 9-10 | 0 | | 11 | Air Force ACE | 5-14 | -21 | 26-47 | 35.62 | 19-35 | 7-12 | +1 | | 12 | eSTRO | 4-15 | -21* | 28-48 | 36.84 | 17-40 | 11-8 | -1 |
I'm too lazy to calculate the new winning percentages, so I don't wanna update the whole thing, but right now it should be:
1 Samsung KHAN 14-6 +17 50-33
2 SK Telecom T1 14-6 +16* 51-34
3 KTF MagicNs 13-8 +11 48-37
4 STX SouL 12-8 +6 40-34
5 Lecaf Oz 12-8 +4 42-38
6 OnGameNet SPARKYZ 11-8 +5 39-340
7 WeMade FOX 10-9 +4 40-36
8 MBCGame HERO 10-11 +/-0 40-40
9 CJ Entus 7-12 -7 36-43
10 Hanbit Stars 6-13 -16 29-45
11 Air Force ACE 5-14 -21 26-47
12 eSTRO 4-15 -21* 28-48
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Anyway...top 6 teams go to the playoffs this season..
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Nice, KTF winning over Lecaf  . I wanna see the games of Lee Young Ho .
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On July 01 2008 22:47 M2 wrote:
Anyway...top 6 teams go to the playoffs this season..
Pardon me what did I just miss here? I know this is a transitional season but unless I didn't read it right I don't see those numbers mentioned in the PL R&S overview thread? Well maybe it's just my memory which wouldn't come as a surprise to me
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On July 01 2008 23:09 3nickma wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2008 22:47 M2 wrote:
Anyway...top 6 teams go to the playoffs this season.. Pardon me what did I just miss here? I know this is a transitional season but unless I didn't read it right I don't see those numbers mentioned in the PL R&S overview thread? Well maybe it's just my memory which wouldn't come as a surprise to me But whatever the reason if it's 6 teams now in the playoffs and Lecaf is one of them I'm fine!
What he said except replace lecaf with KTF
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Wtf...the results are never updated for Lecaf games
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On July 01 2008 23:16 ahole-surprise wrote:
Wtf...the results are never updated for Lecaf games
KTF won.
(YESSSSSS!)
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On July 01 2008 06:45 Atrioc wrote:Detailed Predictions: + Show Spoiler +
#1 Haran has 25% win vs P, and no individual league success. BackHo, despite being hated by nearly everyone on TL, is in the semifinals of the OSL and is practicing vs Zerg like a madman for his upcoming match against July. He should take this with ease.
#2 This game will be closer than people think imo. Flash has looked very human lately, going 5-5 in his last ten games with a recent loss to Ruby on this map. I still give the edge to the little monster, but fOrGG seems to be pretty hot right now, with momentum that flash might be losing.
#3 Man, if you thought the Lecaf 2v2 team was bad in the 200 other games that they lost, I cant imagine how they are gonna look vs the godly reach/yellow team of manliness. Another 2v2 autoloss for Lecaf.
#4 Jaedong is a better zerg player than 815. This should be an easier pick, but I nearly gave it to 815 simply because the map is Blue Storm. 815 has no individual league commitments to practice for and he is the fucking god of blue storm. He has sniped so many people on this map in proleauge (including Jaedong previously!) that it is hard not to give it to him. However, i simply cannot bet against Jaedong in a ZvZ at his current ridicolous near-80% win in the matchup, so I predict a win for him.
#5 I think this match is very likely to go to the ACE, and i'm predicting HiyA from Lecaf and probably Flash from KTF. Results: + Show Spoiler +
dude nice op, but update the fucking results; don't make me read through more than 20 pages ...
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update the fucking results, OP
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2 things
1. Atrioc is west coast, so if your east coast just chill the fuck out.
2. I thought only 4 go to playoffs this season. Could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure.
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South Africa4316 Posts
I was told that top four teams go through this season, and top 6 go through starting next season. I might be wrong though, so I'll try to find out.
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Results are updated.
Sorry about the delay guys, i keep running into stuff that makes it hard to stick around at 2:30 in the morning to update them immediately.
Lecaf loss sucks -_-
I called the ace match though, I just figured HiyA might have a better shot.
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On July 02 2008 01:40 Daigomi wrote:
I was told that top four teams go through this season, and top 6 go through starting next season. I might be wrong though, so I'll try to find out. 6 teams go through
P.S ironically i pm'd you this information moments earlier without realizing that you had posted in this thread o.O
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Who cares if Hiya was 6-1 on the map. Jaedong is by far a better player and had a greater chance to beat Flash. And Lecaf knew that KTF would send flash. Now Lecaf is in danger of not making the playoffs, great job coach.
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On July 02 2008 03:24 TheTyranid wrote:
Who cares if Hiya was 6-1 on the map. Jaedong is by far a better player and had a greater chance to beat Flash. And Lecaf knew that KTF would send flash. Now Lecaf is in danger of not making the playoffs, great job coach.
wrong.
you underestimate hiya. hiya's TvT has been looking pretty good as of late. since nov. 13, (which, coincidentally enough, was his last WIN against FLASH), he was 9-5 TvT, he was 6-1 on colosseum, and you can't deny that hiya was looking pretty good against flash until he failed to scout flash's hidden fourth.
also, jaedong's ZvT isn't up to par. (besides that series vs. hwasin, but that was a bo5. bo1 jaedong and bo5 jaedong are for some reason in totally different mindsets) and he's only played on colosseum once, in which he used an unorthodox build against hwasin in said series.
colosseum isn't that too good for ZvT either, while all mirror matchups can generally go either way.
true, skill-wise, jaedong rapes hiya and probably would have been the best choice for most situations. however, given the circumstances, i honestly think hiya had a better shot at flash, and he had a very good shot, but he just never capitalized on his 2port advantage.
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nice
GO HARAN
GO FLASH
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=[ Lecaf
=] Yell0w/Reach
HiyA isn't a bad ace for Lecaf, a team full of potential ace players, and it's not like he has major individual league concerns to get in the way of practicing specifically to face Flash in a best of 1 "series" (and who else would KTF send? Hery? lol). You don't want to burn out your main players right before playoffs, either; Lecaf has, what, 5 players in the OSL, MSL, and GomTV? Jaedong, BackHo, Anytime, Lomo, and BackHo have individual leagues to compete in, so if they have a dependable ace with a good record in HiyA, why overplay their good players when they should stay fresh for individual leagues and playoffs?
And again, HiyA did well up until he didn't scout Flash's fourth. He did a respectable job and could have won that match if he was a bit more on point for the entire match. I wouldn't feel too bad sending him out as an ace if it came to it in one of the last two PL meets that Lecaf gets.
Whatever, onto the last few weeks of regular PL play.
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On July 02 2008 08:25 MCMcEmcee wrote:
=[ Lecaf
=] Yell0w/Reach
HiyA isn't a bad ace for Lecaf, a team full of potential ace players, and it's not like he has major individual league concerns to get in the way of practicing specifically to face Flash in a best of 1 "series" (and who else would KTF send? Hery? lol). You don't want to burn out your main players right before playoffs, either; Lecaf has, what, 5 players in the OSL, MSL, and GomTV? Jaedong, BackHo, Anytime, Lomo, and BackHo have individual leagues to compete in, so if they have a dependable ace with a good record in HiyA, why overplay their good players when they should stay fresh for individual leagues and playoffs?
And again, HiyA did well up until he didn't scout Flash's fourth. He did a respectable job and could have won that match if he was a bit more on point for the entire match. I wouldn't feel too bad sending him out as an ace if it came to it in one of the last two PL meets that Lecaf gets.
Whatever, onto the last few weeks of regular PL play.
Anytime's out, you mentioned BackHo twice, and neglected to include ForGG.
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why the hell did they send hiya out lol
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On July 02 2008 08:00 goldenkrnboi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2008 03:24 TheTyranid wrote:
Who cares if Hiya was 6-1 on the map. Jaedong is by far a better player and had a greater chance to beat Flash. And Lecaf knew that KTF would send flash. Now Lecaf is in danger of not making the playoffs, great job coach. wrong. you underestimate hiya. hiya's TvT has been looking pretty good as of late. since nov. 13, (which, coincidentally enough, was his last WIN against FLASH), he was 9-5 TvT, he was 6-1 on colosseum, and you can't deny that hiya was looking pretty good against flash until he failed to scout flash's hidden fourth. also, jaedong's ZvT isn't up to par. (besides that series vs. hwasin, but that was a bo5. bo1 jaedong and bo5 jaedong are for some reason in totally different mindsets) and he's only played on colosseum once, in which he used an unorthodox build against hwasin in said series. colosseum isn't that too good for ZvT either, while all mirror matchups can generally go either way. true, skill-wise, jaedong rapes hiya and probably would have been the best choice for most situations. however, given the circumstances, i honestly think hiya had a better shot at flash, and he had a very good shot, but he just never capitalized on his 2port advantage.
agreed
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haha i never liked Lecaf and never will! Congrats KTF!
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Hmm. Lecaf has OGN and CJ left to play.
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just saw this series on ongamenet channel 43 :D
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On July 02 2008 09:59 xenero wrote:
Anytime's out, you mentioned BackHo twice, and neglected to include ForGG.
whoops I thought I typed forGG in that first BackHo lol
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No one mention this yet, but in the 815 vs Jaedong game, 815 could had a chance to make a comeback. Unforunately he couldn't send his zergling out to Jaedong's base because he had a 1-2 zergling stuck at the choke, LOL. 1 minor mistake and all of 815 chances gone. Same build, same zergling count, same amount of mutalisk, yet Jaedong comes on top. Jaedong's mutalisk micro is just another level.
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i just watched jaedong vs 815 again
haha jaedong is so damn good with mutas
its like he crammed so many more attacks into the battle than 815 did
every second 815 spent flying, jaedong was spinning around and launching like 3 more volleys of glaives, not to mention sniping scourge. In about 20 seconds it added up to where 815 was way behind in mutalisk count and rolled.
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Jaedong needs just three straight wins for ZvZ to be 80%! He's like a Zerg iloveoov! He's Jaeoov or...
hm...
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United States1865 Posts
On July 03 2008 05:08 Ozarugold wrote:
Jaedong needs just three straight wins for ZvZ to be 80%! He's like a Zerg iloveoov! He's Jaeoov or...
hm...
ilovedong
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*Edit*
nvm you were implying that
your joke is funnier without being explicit and i want to delete this post
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isn't dong the currency in Vietnam?
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