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blagoonga123
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2068 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-22 10:38:03
February 22 2008 10:37 GMT
#401
Lol not much shit to do when your army rapes without any micro.
a.move! macro macro macro macro macro.
FOOL! Pain is my friend! Now let me introduce you to it!
anch
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States5457 Posts
February 22 2008 10:37 GMT
#402
without morphing to guards, would swarm + lurker + unmorphed mutas block off?
TheTyranid
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Russian Federation4333 Posts
February 22 2008 10:38 GMT
#403
Notice how in the replay, during the main battle, Jaedong attacks with his mutas, then pulls them back, then attacks a bit again, and pulls bck gain while constantly being his by goliaths. I do not understand his logic. Why would you do that? It makes no sence.
StRyKeR
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States1756 Posts
February 22 2008 10:38 GMT
#404
no, lurkers are too gas heavy, you wanna mass lings, the rest of money goes into mutas
Ars longa, vita brevis, principia aeturna.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
February 22 2008 10:38 GMT
#405
On February 22 2008 19:36 M2 wrote:
Flash maybe is in best shape right now, but dont forget that at the semis he may has katrina twice against protoss...so I dont consider him favorite yet, moreover the same treat is facing him in possible final against stork..

He raped the shit out of Anytime on Katrina. Anytime didnt play that well, but he didnt play that bad either.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
StRyKeR
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States1756 Posts
February 22 2008 10:38 GMT
#406
swarm + lings + plague + mutas would work
Ars longa, vita brevis, principia aeturna.
BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
February 22 2008 10:39 GMT
#407
Btw, the real reason for the loss in this game was not nearly Jae's unit choice.

He just fucked up that battle BIG time first letting his damage dealers take hits (and losing a critical number of guards) then going in with damage-soakers (muta) when he wasn't dealing any serious damage anyway.
You want 20 good men, but you need a bad pussy.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
February 22 2008 10:39 GMT
#408
On February 22 2008 19:38 TheTyranid wrote:
Notice how in the replay, during the main battle, Jaedong attacks with his mutas, then pulls them back, then attacks a bit again, and pulls bck gain while constantly being his by goliaths. I do not understand his logic. Why would you do that? It makes no sence.

Absorb hits for the guards. Gols = guards in range and guards take full damge. Still I agree, probably wasnt a good idea, but I don't think it would have mattered much
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
Elsi
Profile Joined October 2002
United Kingdom8173 Posts
February 22 2008 10:39 GMT
#409
On February 22 2008 19:36 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Elsi, WTF? Ultras? LOL. Ultras would be the WORST possible choice other than pure ling The answer was of course defliers and plague. He shouldve sent in his ground army + defliers then plagued then came with a HUGE amount of pure muta. However maybe the early sci facility made jaedong shy away from defs. But Flash wisely never made any vessels and instead used his gas for quick 3/3 + tanks.


Ultras under swarm with hydra support and lings is a good battle tool, remember, Flash was running low on economy, while JD had a lot of expos running.

I would rather invested those mutas for ultras imo, but it's hard to attack on katrina, not many open spaces.
OctoPuSs
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Canada5279 Posts
February 22 2008 10:39 GMT
#410
Is this Bisu's first game wearing the SKTelecom suit?
Depression is just a sarcastic state of mind. Liquid`HerO Fighting!
anch
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States5457 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-22 10:40:40
February 22 2008 10:40 GMT
#411
might as well throw in overlords for soakers, without swarm, i dont see anything can defend.
kramus
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1259 Posts
February 22 2008 10:40 GMT
#412
now i'd rather see much win to have a better chance against flash
StRyKeR
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States1756 Posts
February 22 2008 10:40 GMT
#413
yea everything that could have gone bad did

he didn't snipe tanks, guards soaked damage while mutas watched, hydras came late
Ars longa, vita brevis, principia aeturna.
Elsi
Profile Joined October 2002
United Kingdom8173 Posts
February 22 2008 10:40 GMT
#414
On February 22 2008 19:36 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2008 19:31 Elsi wrote:
FakeSteve, Why don't you bother with Liquibet


you know what i just didnt vote for like 30 games for some reason

i was always 'gonna do it' and i just didnt, then afterwards i was like 'well its too late now'

i only made 6 votes this season and i was 6/6 hahaha 100% vote correct booya


Aha ok, better luck next time!
kramus
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1259 Posts
February 22 2008 10:40 GMT
#415
On February 22 2008 19:39 OctoPuSs wrote:
Is this Bisu's first game wearing the SKTelecom suit?
no, his mst games
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
February 22 2008 10:40 GMT
#416
On February 22 2008 19:39 BluzMan wrote:
Btw, the real reason for the loss in this game was not nearly Jae's unit choice.

He just fucked up that battle BIG time first letting his damage dealers take hits (and losing a critical number of guards) then going in with damage-soakers (muta) when he wasn't dealing any serious damage anyway.

That obviously had a lot to do with the MASSIVE rape but still. Jaedong really really needed plague against such a fast 3/3.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
Elsi
Profile Joined October 2002
United Kingdom8173 Posts
February 22 2008 10:41 GMT
#417
Game two starting in 2 mins!

Bisu fighting^^
TheTyranid
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Russian Federation4333 Posts
February 22 2008 10:42 GMT
#418
On February 22 2008 19:39 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2008 19:38 TheTyranid wrote:
Notice how in the replay, during the main battle, Jaedong attacks with his mutas, then pulls them back, then attacks a bit again, and pulls bck gain while constantly being his by goliaths. I do not understand his logic. Why would you do that? It makes no sence.

Absorb hits for the guards. Gols = guards in range and guards take full damge. Still I agree, probably wasnt a good idea, but I don't think it would have mattered much

The thing is, he had a lot of mutas. They would have done alot of damage still. Cmon not having 20 mutas attack is a big difference. Besides his mutas were taking hits ALL the time even when he pulled back a bit. If he pulled bck too much, guards would get hit so there really is no point in doing that. If he used his mutas, he might have won that battle.
StRyKeR
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States1756 Posts
February 22 2008 10:42 GMT
#419
I've noticed that JD may have amazing mechanics, but his game sense is sometimes really off

Against Flash in the MSL he let all his guards die to cloaked wraiths because he didn't send overlords in advance.

Against Flash in the OSL he builds guards against mech.
Ars longa, vita brevis, principia aeturna.
Elsi
Profile Joined October 2002
United Kingdom8173 Posts
February 22 2008 10:43 GMT
#420
On February 22 2008 19:42 StRyKeR wrote:
I've noticed that JD may have amazing mechanics, but his game sense is sometimes really off

Against Flash in the MSL he let all his guards die to cloaked wraiths because he didn't send overlords in advance.

Against Flash in the OSL he builds guards against mech.


Game sense comes with experience!
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