On December 30 2007 16:49 HaXxorIzed wrote:
That was horrible Carrier micro :/
That was horrible Carrier micro :/
Level 2 goliaths vs Level 0 carriers. Is it really that surprising?
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fodder
Sweden58 Posts
On December 30 2007 16:49 HaXxorIzed wrote: That was horrible Carrier micro :/ Level 2 goliaths vs Level 0 carriers. Is it really that surprising? | ||
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Manifesto7
Osaka27179 Posts
edit- although I believe that if you are fighting such a substantial upgrade difference, you should use your carriers for harrassement and try to hold the middle with ground. | ||
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hku
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3 carriers, no units on the ground. free should not have lost by any means. | ||
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Deletrious
United States458 Posts
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IntoTheWow
is awesome32282 Posts
![]() Exactly. | ||
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fodder
Sweden58 Posts
On December 30 2007 16:43 InfesTeD]i[ wrote: Show nested quote + On December 30 2007 16:42 IdrA wrote: mind is making a decent attempt to come back but wont be able to hold carriers soon vults keep top left offline for a while and 2 tanks siege free's nat over the ridge well 2-2 goliaths with 5 bases ? Exactly. I don't know what game he was watching but Mind had control over the game at every point. ![]() | ||
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Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
On December 30 2007 17:03 fodder wrote: Show nested quote + On December 30 2007 16:43 InfesTeD]i[ wrote: On December 30 2007 16:42 IdrA wrote: mind is making a decent attempt to come back but wont be able to hold carriers soon vults keep top left offline for a while and 2 tanks siege free's nat over the ridge well 2-2 goliaths with 5 bases ? Exactly. I don't know what game he was watching but Mind had control over the game at every point. ![]() what the hell are you talking about. Mind lost ALL his tanks to Free's goon/zeal force when Free had gone 3 stargate carriers from 3 bases. Mind should have won that battle and had Free backed against the wall, but instead he lost the battle, and then had carriers to worry about. Control over the game at every point? I think you need to make sure you're watching the right game. | ||
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fodder
Sweden58 Posts
On December 30 2007 17:07 Live2Win wrote: Show nested quote + On December 30 2007 17:03 fodder wrote: On December 30 2007 16:43 InfesTeD]i[ wrote: On December 30 2007 16:42 IdrA wrote: mind is making a decent attempt to come back but wont be able to hold carriers soon vults keep top left offline for a while and 2 tanks siege free's nat over the ridge well 2-2 goliaths with 5 bases ? Exactly. I don't know what game he was watching but Mind had control over the game at every point. ![]() what the hell are you talking about. Mind lost ALL his tanks to Free's goon/zeal force when Free had gone 3 stargate carriers from 3 bases. Mind should have won that battle and had Free backed against the wall, but instead he lost the battle, and then had carriers to worry about. Control over the game at every point? I think you need to make sure you're watching the right game. He had nothing left after that attack. Mind starts making 2/2/2 goliaths and Free just starts pumping carriers with little ground army. He wasn't close to winning. Not only that, but at the time "mind is making a decent attempt to come back but wont be able to hold carriers soon" Mind not only had more expansions 2/2/2 goliaths vs 0/0/0 carriers, a better economy flow, better control of the map, more maneuverability, but ALSO HAD BETTER HARASS. While I was watching I was thinking "Wow Mind is really pressuring free." | ||
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samachking
Bahrain4949 Posts
![]() Thats a character of a true champion | ||
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Manifesto7
Osaka27179 Posts
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Snipinpanda
United States1227 Posts
On December 30 2007 17:07 Live2Win wrote: Show nested quote + On December 30 2007 17:03 fodder wrote: On December 30 2007 16:43 InfesTeD]i[ wrote: On December 30 2007 16:42 IdrA wrote: mind is making a decent attempt to come back but wont be able to hold carriers soon vults keep top left offline for a while and 2 tanks siege free's nat over the ridge well 2-2 goliaths with 5 bases ? Exactly. I don't know what game he was watching but Mind had control over the game at every point. ![]() what the hell are you talking about. Mind lost ALL his tanks to Free's goon/zeal force when Free had gone 3 stargate carriers from 3 bases. Mind should have won that battle and had Free backed against the wall, but instead he lost the battle, and then had carriers to worry about. Control over the game at every point? I think you need to make sure you're watching the right game. Adding to this, had Free dealt with that vult harass correctly, which would have been very simple, cannon/goons inside the base, instead of using carriers to deal with it, Mind woulda probably had no advantage at all. I don't think Mind knew that carriers were coming prior to that point either, so I think Free was probably better off if he had instead, attacked with those carriers. | ||
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fodder
Sweden58 Posts
On December 30 2007 17:12 Manifesto7 wrote: I think you are totally wrong L2W. Mind killed Free\'s entire ground army. Knowing his opponent was putting everything into carriers he knew he would be fine, and knew his upgrades were going to destroy any remaining ground force. He took his corner expo safely because he had time, then set up shop in the middle. Free couldn\'t cross the map after that, and the poor carrier micro / mass gols did the rest. Yes, in addendum he was being harassed on every fronts of his expansions. So not only did he have to worry about taking control of the middle, he was being forced on every side to defend which he had no motility to achieve. | ||
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SuperJongMan
Jamaica11586 Posts
He was constantly forced go to back to his deep corner expo which he sealed off all but 1 very narrow choke he coulda held. Free really lost that game... sorta what he does I guess? The advantage after the first clash in front of Mind's min nat shoulda been huge. Instead, Mind harasses insanely well negating Free's additional base, and let's upgrades finish off a still 0-0-0 Free at the end. That harass really wrecked him so hard. And he macros so well - - | ||
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Emptyness
Bulgaria1016 Posts
. Thnx a lot for the update, Sunyveil . I couldn't watch the games either . | ||
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JensOfSweden
Cameroon1767 Posts
Btw, why isn't Nada playing? | ||
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iloveHieu
United States1919 Posts
On December 30 2007 15:39 IntoTheWow wrote: Show nested quote + On December 30 2007 15:38 InfesTeD]i[ wrote: I guess we have to watch this now ![]() I wanna see Nada play ![]() If im not mistaken NaDa wont play cause he has been punished for leaving practice early. | ||
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PhilGood2DaY
Germany7424 Posts
they might say.. | ||
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IdrA
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